My PES5 Rants

[Oliver Kalm]

k this game is pissing me off so much. THERE'S NO RUNNING OFF THE BALL!!! My fvcking players always stand rooted to the spot like douchefvcks and they NEVER go first to the ball.

Case 1: throwing, A throws to B, B controls the ball, A stands still near the side while C runs back, no one makes a run down the flank until 2 seconds later and normally by then B loses the ball or has to pass back.

Case 2: ball in the air, opposition player ALWAYS positions himself in front of my player and easily controls the ball. I mean, there isn't even a battle for the header! The opposition can control it with his foot! My player just stands behind him and he doesn't even push him or anything. Idiots.

Case 3: I swing in a cross from the flank to the far side, my far side winger is there, but again like case 2, he is standing like a pussy behind the opposition defender and the opposition defender clears with no challenge. My player doesn't even run to the fvcking ball to try to get a header!!!

Also, the fvcking game automatically switches my cursors to different players when I didn't press L1 at all!!! For instance, A slides in to knock the ball loose in front of him and I want to keep using A to chase to the ball, but the fvcking game itself switches my cursor to B which is 10 feet ahead and instead I have to use B to turn around and come back to get the ball plus he's farther away than A is.

This game is fvcking pathetic. I mean obviously it's got great realism and ball physics and randomness and all but the players have NO intelligence! They're like wood. Fvcking Konami douchebags need to sort this sh1t out, they need to get a brain just like all their stinking players do.

Dude. I have the fix to all of this. Its so simple, you're gonna sh!t your pants after you hear it. Ready? STOP PLAYING THE GAME. If you hate the game that much, do something else. Dig a hole, molest your cat, watch paint dry or something you find interesting. Whining will not make the game magically better you know.

 

[Hopeunited]

Dude. I have the fix to all of this. Its so simple, you're gonna sh!t your pants after you hear it. Ready? STOP PLAYING THE GAME. If you hate the game that much, do something else. Dig a hole, molest your cat, watch paint dry or something you find interesting. Whining will not make the game magically better you know.

this is a rant thread right?

PS: shinji I agree it is extremely boring and frustrating to play against computers. All my games are 0-0 or 1-0... the computer has no variation, it's the same style and same things all the time.

This game is great for multiplayer tho.

 

[Nomad]

I think that when it comes down to it, it doesn't matter what players you have on your team. It seems like all players react the same. For some reason they are more concerned about getting back into position than going for the ball. I sometimes find my players running past the ball in order to get back into position. Its strange to see my forwards run all the way back to play defense. They end up in the goal box and I'm left with no forwards. If anything, the game needs to fix the teammate AI. The players also handle the ball so slowly. Its as if they have heavy feet. It takes 4 touches to bring a ball down when it can usually take 2 or even 1. Oh well. Its sad to say, but its still the best football game on the market. Watch out for FIFA though.

 

[Gnidrologist]

For me the most annoying ''feature'' still is is the fact that ball always bounces back to AI player in SP games. Just count how many offensive rebounds you get after your shot has been blocked or corner kick denied. Almost none. Ball always seem to magically jump right to the Ai player's feet after someone has deflected your shot or pass.
Also AI clearences are always an inch perfect passes to the teammate no mather how mutch pressure is applied to the player that clears the ball. Headers are especially annoying because it seems that Ai players NEVER misspasses any of those.
On the other end it's just the opposite. I have to make a dozens of succesfull tackles to take the ball away because it always jumps back to other Ai player's feet. And also after blocking the shots giving them another and another attacking wave especially when i'm winning and they try to come back.

I understand that those ''walking-sticks'' are needed to make AI oppsoition at least remotely challenging but it still pisses me off. Oh well, not that much though.

 

[Nomad]

In SP games, the AI seems to have incredibly fast feet that block my shots at the last second every time. Even when I get a shot off, they are able to alter my shot by putting a body or leg to make my player take an off-balance shot. I've only been able to score a few open, clean shots.

Maybe Konami made these annoying features or intentionally left problems in in order to make it more challenging.

 

[simakperrce]

For me the most annoying ''feature'' still is is the fact that ball always bounces back to AI player in SP games. Just count how many offensive rebounds you get after your shot has been blocked or corner kick denied. Almost none. Ball always seem to magically jump right to the Ai player's feet after someone has deflected your shot or pass.
Also AI clearences are always an inch perfect passes to the teammate no mather how mutch pressure is applied to the player that clears the ball. Headers are especially annoying because it seems that Ai players NEVER misspasses any of those.
On the other end it's just the opposite. I have to make a dozens of succesfull tackles to take the ball away because it always jumps back to other Ai player's feet. And also after blocking the shots giving them another and another attacking wave especially when i'm winning and they try to come back.

I understand that those ''walking-sticks'' are needed to make AI oppsoition at least remotely challenging but it still pisses me off. Oh well, not that much though.

you speak the bitter truth. what i hate most about it is how the programmers have tried to disguise it as "random" -- so ridiculous. maybe a noob falls for this s.hit, but it soon becomes so fecking obvious how this works when you play it for a while.

another thing that pisses me of beyond believe is how when the CPU is on orange or read and shoots corners and crosses, your defenders will always clear the ball down the middle -- no matter where you point the stick at, no matter whether it's staam, nesta or fecking vornander. there will of course never be one of your lazy-a.ss teammate at that position, instead an onrushing CPU player will pick up the rebound. Even worse, your defenders will stand like frozen stiffs in the box watching that said player approach goal mouth instead of going at him.

this game is so wonderful on so many levels, but the tedious an annoying parts outweigh it. it would be time for a fundamental rehaul IMO. but won't happen of course...

 

[Lean]

The thing is, the CPU cheats blatantly. Period.

 

[JuventusForever]

I have to add something.
The goalkeepers are so damn slow... it takes you some times like 5 seconds to throw the ball.. and sometimes he even doesn't throw the ball he just kicks it. soooo annoying when you see a player who's free but nooo you can't throw to him for some crazy dumb reason.
also keepers tend to overreact on situtations and jump on the ball and cuddle it like it's their baby nephew also for an annoying amount of seconds.. both destroy the flow of the game and drive me nuts!#%$

 

[hibernian2mb]

uh... right. so how many one-footed players do you know?

Every weekend players make fools of themselves trying to kick wi there wrong foot and some strikers squander chances rather than try wi there wrong foot.

 

[Nomad]

Every weekend players make fools of themselves trying to kick wi there wrong foot and some strikers squander chances rather than try wi there wrong foot.

All I'm saying is that in PES, the players are all one-footed, especially when it comes to passing. That's the last thing I'm saying on this issue.

 

[hibernian2mb]

All I'm saying is that in PES, the players are all one-footed, especially when it comes to passing. That's the last thing I'm saying on this issue.

Ok fair enough i never disagreed with you on that anyway, i just thought your other comment was a little strange.

 

[pefan]

I dunno about the one footed thing. I was using Roma and most of my passes come from the weaker foot of my players. It depends on the angle and the frequency there weaker foot is set to.

As for clearances you can clear in any direction as long as you got the passing mode thing set properly. Obviously if your jamming the shoot button in a defensive position thats no good.

Players responses are poor i admit and things do take time. This game is also frustrating for me. I am now on 6 star in master league after months of jamming the buttons i'm now in the 2013 season. Sometimes players have poor finishing it is absolutely ridiculous. You cant just jam the button and expect it to go in. You too have to show some composure this is where PES is a better game.

If you didnt get frustrated i take it the game will be no good. It may be too easy or people might get bored of it. The cpu passes are a bit extreme. They magically manage to find difficult passes. You sometimes hope that your defenders are picking people up if the pass is aimed at someone off the camera. That is where it is a bit ridiculous. Some extreme cases i've had 60 yard passes against me successful without the player even facing that direction. Passes do go astray and are sometimes inaccurate.

Another issue is the balance. I think weight plays a big part in this game. Despit ethe fact i have players with 97 balance and so on. I still find defenders muscling out Rooney when his balance is set at 98. Everything is on red but i still have issues regarding dribbling and balance. Even shooting accuracy.

The power of shots is also getting ridiculous. I can score from 40 metres out or make the keeper parry from a long way out. I think its getting out of hand. I also have teams like Madrid buying classic players like schuster and bebeto because i smoke them at the home ground year in year out. They go and buy maradona and he comes takes 35 yarders that make my keeper work. Out pace my defenders that have 88 pace. I find this funny.

And dont get me started on refereeing. I would compare it to Spanish football. Its ridiculous. No contact can be made. Its absurd.

I hope Konami address these issues!

 

[pefan]

One more thing injuries are a bit extreme also. Players dont come back on fully fit if they go off. What is that about. You can expect a minimum of a week injury if they have to go off the pitch. :boohoo:

Fifa fans will probably be laughing at this thread. We praise PES so much. I'm not sure about Pro management. If the injuries are as bad. They can forget it.

 

[::shinji::]

well, I've never played FIFA 06, but I'm seriously considering trying it out. If only for the online play.

WE9 has been so frustrating, even online that it's not very fun anymore to be honest. I've gone back to playing the Master League in WE8 because I can't stand the refs and lack of CPU offence in WE9.

 

[pefan]

WE9 is way too defensive. The producer is an Inter fan. They got 2 bloody holding midfielders in almost every team i play. It seems to me Fulham and Real Madrid are the most attacking teams in the game. Everyone else loves to pass it across the back line. I manage to catch them out with my closing down technique. Defending from the front and they normally make mistakes or overhit passes.

 

[danger zone]

the fouls in the game have turned me off totally. in the box just a shove results in a penalty and ruins the whole game. in a typical game i can give away twenty fouls and the opposition maybe commits four. the flow of the game is ruined and the game becomes faceless with every game repeating the last. ive played every version of this game and for the first time im ready to give up just because of this. they need to work this out for the next version. aside from this its a good game, just the only fatal flaw.

 

[bmpv666]

there are a lot of frustrating stuff in the game, but the one that pisses me the most is seeing my players sometimes just standing in their spot watching the play.
specially when defending, sometimes i'm trying to make some pression on the computer player with the ball, and my players around him will just stare...most of the times if they pressed at the same time i would be able to get the ball back. yet the computer can always press me with 3 or 4 players at the same time, really frustrating...

 

[bRaZo0kA]

for real though after a week into the game u should be playing in on all stars, which would be 6, if not ur pathetic cuz the game is hard, but its a freakin computer, shouldnt be 2 hard to outsmart the ai, considering u prob play the game alot....hopefully this new pes6 world cup, is gonna be alot hard, and smarter ai, cuz my players also stand flat ontheir heels on occasions and it pisses me off...another thing pes6 sucks that pes5 had perfect was the give and go, i pass the ball and immediatly press l1 player should begin to run to recieve the ball, but wat happens when i press l1 is that i lose control of the player in which i passed it to, piss mes off!!!

 

[danger zone]

Something In oticed that resembles the worst days of FIFA is the lack of difference between the best and worst sides. Last night I was using Arsenal in a tournament and was playing FC Copenhagen whom you would expect to beat easily enough. Of course not. They were spreading the ball around with more flair and swagger than Brazil 1982 and had players everywhere, putting together fifty passes in one go. It always seems that you are man marked no matter what your settings yet the opposition have men free all over the pitch and sometimes getting the ball is impossible. I won 1-0, but not before six minutes of time added on and a few goal line clearances to keep these legends at bay.

 

[pefan]

for real though after a week into the game u should be playing in on all stars, which would be 6, if not ur pathetic cuz the game is hard, but its a freakin computer, shouldnt be 2 hard to outsmart the ai, considering u prob play the game alot....hopefully this new pes6 world cup, is gonna be alot hard, and smarter ai, cuz my players also stand flat ontheir heels on occasions and it pisses me off...another thing pes6 sucks that pes5 had perfect was the give and go, i pass the ball and immediatly press l1 player should begin to run to recieve the ball, but wat happens when i press l1 is that i lose control of the player in which i passed it to, piss mes off!!!

Not everyone is at the same level. You cant compare your style with others. Everyone is different. I play it a lot but it took me a while to get onto 6 star because of the cheating. Obviously a hardcore addict or a geek can go to the shop and get on 6 stars after 1 hour of play thats them. I prefer to play on my own accord thats why Konami make the game so everyoen can buy and play how they see fit. Some people are geniuses at the game good for them others are not as good. And some prefer to spend time on each star instead of jumping straight to 6 complaining its too easy cuz they won 2 cup two years in a row and complaining of cheating when they bloody well know the computer cheats more the more stars you play on. :boohoo: