NEW! Biggy's Gameplay Update For FIFA 06 V.2 !

[nickclubman]

No problem, the difficult part is finding a good balance. EA have it balanced when you install the game from the get-go, so making the physics to how you want them and see them and the image you have of 'realism' has to be one which you can balance out. As for this new style of freekick, I was unaware of it in all honesty. I'll check that out

NK.

 

[sa33ood]

v2.8

Hey Nick, I've fixed everything but I found out that you are wrong, it's not about the Air Resistance, it's actually about the Ball Max Velocity.

Anyways I've fixed everything up and did a couple of CPU game style updates and packed everything in a v2.8 file. So you'all , download and enjoy.

Click Here to Download the v2.8

Enjoy it, and I'll be waiting for feed backs.

Peace!

 

[nickclubman]

I'm not wrong mate, you've just found an alternate solution (and one I wouldn't have used, but ah well). The speed of the ball XZ and Y can be changed through the resistance and in a sense visa-versa. Since you've most likely decreased the ball Y speed, that makes a lot of sense in changing the height of the ball, in regards to how fast it travels and how much 'air' is against it travelling. I can imagine the ball is travelling quite slower right now, which is what you wanted! I on the other hand prefer the faster paced game

Happy playing,
NK.

 

[sa33ood]

Nick, I'm sure about what I'm saying! I mean tried what you suggested and believe me that it didn't work I tried changing the Resistance values 2 times, first y was higher than xz and the 2nd time xz was higher than y, the result of the free kick bug was the same as it was before, but when I changed the Velocity values everything went fine. The speed of the ball is still as same as it was before, so I don't see where your point can be right!

Try it out man, no need to believe me, just try it.

In my gameplay update I try to copy the real ball movement 98% like real life, I did many calculations and watched many football matches for this purpose, and it's paying off very very well.

Making the ball faster than real life will also make the game faster, and making it slower is going to make the game slower, so I tried my best to make it at a real life normal speed so that the game experience would be not slow and "moon" like nor fast like a metal ball game.

 

[nickclubman]

Ok dude, I'll just stick to what I know haha.
NK.

 

[exerslow]

Finally got around trying 2.7 and I found it to be very good. I too saw the bug of the vertical free kick so that's good you ironed it out. I think that essentially noth Biggy and NK are ending up at the same place in terms of feel and style of gameplay. NK's might be faster at normal speed but I think everything feels a ton more realistic on "slow".

Ironically, Ockham exchanged with me some of his ideas and on some mods and when employed have provided the most challenging gameplay I've experienced yet.

I started a career with this modded version of NK 6 beta2 (ock mod) (with Biggy intensity) and I started out 4-4-4 through twelve games, 9 goals for, and 8 against. It been super challenging for the most part.

I've had some fantastic games. I beat Chelsea at Stamford Bridge 1-0 on a first half header off a corner by Giggs (haven't scored from a corner since, and I beat Wigan in injury time on a l-o-o-o-o-ng Cristiano Ronaldo free kick to edge them 1-0.

The defence is real tough.

What I have noticed is that if you fail to score or open the scoring early then the game is tight throughout. If you do open the scoring early it open things up a lot and then I can find some space. Last two games were a 5-0 throttling of Birmingham ( I led 3-0 at the break) and a 4-1 thrashing of Villa in which both teams scored from penalties. They were still good games but if you can manage a early score or two it can quickly turn into a route. I wonder if intensity or the actual databased tactics changes have something to do with this?


I'll have to give Biggy 2.8 a go but I think everyone should be using Ockhams default.ini settings as it has elimiated a lot of the CPU stupid moves etc. that can lead to easy strips and breaks/goals.

Dave

 

[ExittheLemming]

V 2.8 Feedback

The usual excellent work from Biggy with realistic ball behaviour and varied and aggressive CPU in both attack and defence. The "vertical" free kick from the CPU is still there however, but less frequent I notice. There also appear to be more "scrappy' goals through confusion/collision of defenders and goalies in the 6 yard box (which I like as it adds to the drama of the game) It's also bloody hard to win on pro level with Biggys own intensity settings, so I've reverted back to semi-pro until I get the hang of the new patch. Superb patch overall.

 

[sa33ood]

Thank you for the feed back, guys. I'm working right now on some small areas and then I'm going to release a v2.9.

v2.9 is going to be the hardest thing you'll ever experience in FIFA 06; hard, realistic, and annoying because the CPU will always try to beat you, even at the minute 89.

The ball physics have been totally fixed with no bugs at all, and the CPU attacks and defends with full power, but with all of this you'll get the feel of good and bad payers inside the pitch.

Today I played match as Brazil against Spain (CPU) in the semi-final of the World Cup Germany (using OckHAM's CEP), I seriously got mad, because of how the CPU plays, they get you confused of what they are going to do next, they pass a lot, they tackle if needed and the most beautiful thing is that they shot like a human, The final shot results were Brazil 5:4 and Spain 7:5 !!!! They beat my ass with a score of 2:0, and I of course got knocked out of FIFA World Cup (Nooooooooo)...

I assure you that v2.9 is nothing like what you have played before. NOTHING! HE HA HA HA.

 

[sa33ood]

v2.9

Here is v2.9. Click on the Image to download v2.9.



Changes:

1. The CPU has been AI-ed to the highest levels. Super realistic and extremely Hard!.
2. Ball physics improved to imitate real soccer balls. (Amazing bounce effects on dry or wet turfs)
3. Enjoy the loped free kicks, and pass the ball over the defence wall. (Hold the "Shift" Key on keyboard or the "5" Button on the logitech controller). You can now imitate Ronaldinho's free kick on England (World Cup 2002)!
4. Improved goal keepers.
5. More strategic game. You just can't run and win, you have to plan your attacks.

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Enjoy, and don't forget to post the feed backs.

 

[DenniZ]

Awesome!!

 

[avok23]

hello ladies, remember me. about resistance nk is quite right. resistance is wat makes the ball curve. if no resistance and ball spins, it spins for fun. if u remember my experimental stuff i had some real problems. first off in real life the ball stays longer in the air. if you in crease resistance it stays up to long if you touch gravity by the slightest value the whole game changes so i gave up.

i made a gameplay patch for fifa manager and i instead reduce max_kick_rotation to about 700 from 20000000 cos i felt balls dont roll tht often in realife but it means shots are weaker.

the fault really is ea's. the need a new system all together. their secondrate physics is so annoying. ps can anyone in crease jump heigt or atleast make the players jump and head it instead of waiting for it to reach their height.
also i am making a world cup game play patch so best of luck you guys. i ill share all i know

 

[sa33ood]

avok23, you have a good point, which is "EA MUST RECREAT BALL PHYSICS"... lol

They seriously must recreat many aspects of the game; ball physics, players' jumps, and many many other stuff. I'm bored of this subject, because it seems that EA does not give a bleb about what we want or not.

Anyways, I'll be waiting for any new updates from you or the members of this community, good luck mate.

Peace!

 

[nickclubman]

about resistance nk is quite right. resistance is wat makes the ball curve.

Well I knew it since I'd be doing these updates since 2002 and they've used the same variables since then for ball physics except a slight change in resistance for 2005. I was surprised when Biggy said I was wrong!

I think many people, when it comes to updates, make a lot of stuff up and tell people their update does this and that when it really doesn't. I did back in 2001 with my first updates, I might as well have told them if you go into 'create a player' it gives you the option for 'human AI'. It wasn't possible then and you certainly can't make the CPU behave human now. Best thing you can do is find your own alternative design and balance it out.

Anyway, NK out!

 

[sa33ood]

NK and avok23, I'm 100% sure of what I'm claiming, and my update has it all right.

Maybe you are the oldest FIFA editor in the world, but that doesnt mean that you can always get it right, you got to admit it man that I'm doing a great job, I mean compared to your V4 or V5, my update was heaven.

I don't want to mock you or decrease your respect in this forum but man, you got to grow up and stop this whole "I did it first" thing, it's childish, lame and pointless. Every time I argue with you about something you got to bring up the fact that you have started editing since 2002; we believe you man, but come on, I mean for the love of god, this is just useless.

Every aspect of the ai file is being tested by me with many tries and errors, and with the knowledge that many other gameplay developers have reached to, I've managed to collect the best stuff, just like in a research on anything, you have information, you collect the best information then produce a better version of the subject.

I'm 100% sure of what I said about the ball curves, I mean how come it's working if I was wrong? you can say that there are many solutions, but it is NOT YOUR solution that is the right one every time.

NK, I've been working on this update for about 3 months now, yet I managed to up come you in many aspects although you think that you are an expert in this field. It's not about how much knowledge you have, it's about how to use that knowledge, and I'm happy with my self as I'm using that knowledge in the right way.

PLEASE NK, PLEASE, do not talk about how good you are or how good are your patches, just show us what you've got and that will be more than pleasant for us. DO not nag always about us using your precious "V3", man, it's just a file that has some codes, and originally created by EA sports. If you are so confident about your genius powers, then go to EA company and let them hire you at their departments.

My update has made this community more active because of the competition that you and I had, people started participating more and more, and the game has become at its best since it went out.

Don't take this issue out off the basic limits, it's just an UPDATE, not a new creation of a game or something, so keep it down and give us what you have, better than talking a lot while producing bad stuff, just like what happened in your V4 and V5, if you know what I mean.

Peace!

 

[nickclubman]

The thing is, I don't see you as competition, and you COULD BE quite easily. But your update seems more to me like a 'community friendly' update because it is a combination of updates and ideas and available here, RIGHT here direct to download in the forum.

Biggy, you are the type of guy that wants to be the best and you don't care how you do it, I guess that is fair. Even it that means using others idea's. If you want the community to enjoy it then of course!! That seems fine.

No, I’m not an insane person who will try and get copyright © against you, as that is ridiculous as like you have said, EA SPORTS ™ own the rights and all we do is edit the file.

Besides, Avok23 only said I was right and I backed it up, no need to snap!! Sure I’ve been editing since 2002 and as you said before its hard work, 3 months on a gameplay update doesn’t sound like a walk in the park to me…yet you go on against how I shouldn’t think I’m some sort of genius. That was a little strong; I don’t at all think I am a genius.

Anyway, I'll leave you to it. I mean no offence.
NK.

 

[sa33ood]

... But your update seems more to me like a 'community friendly' update because it is a combination of updates and ideas and available here, RIGHT here direct to download in the forum.

NK, can you explain for me what the hick is "Community Friendly" in your understanding? And how is this different than your update? I mean what is super-cool or different in your updates than mine or anyone else?

It's all the same files, same modifications but different values. PLUS, if I don't do a "Community Friendly" update, then, you want it animal friendly? this update or anyone else's update is meant for the community in one way or another.

Please make more sense, I mean your replies are braking my balls man, you answer in quite few unrelated topics...

And YES, I'm a strong competition for you, wither you know it, like it or not.

Dude, come on man, you are not this weak to answer in such way!!

 

[nickclubman]

NK, can you explain for me what the hick is "Community Friendly" in your understanding? And how is this different than your update? I mean what is super-cool or different in your updates than mine or anyone else?

It's all the same files, same modifications but different values. PLUS, if I don't do a "Community Friendly" update, then, you want it animal friendly? this update or anyone else's update is meant for the community in one way or another.

Please make more sense, I mean your replies are braking my balls man, you answer in quite few unrelated topics...

And YES, I'm a strong competition for you, wither you know it, like it or not.

Dude, come on man, you are not this weak to answer in such way!!

Just keep editing man, release v3.0 and we'll see. If you get anywhere near the amount of downloads I got for V5 then I'll see what competition I have going. V5 has over 3000 downloads and it's still going up. Who cares which plays best if most gamers are using V5? That's not competition.

V5 has flaws for sure, your update at the time played better in its own way for what it was. V5 became too easy too fast. V6 has fixed this issue.

NK.

 

[avok23]

kids. if you wanna brag go check my donloads on breamster or check tht italiam acmilani loving friend of mine (u know me and him used to fight like this but he was the child in our fight. giggle)

if i were u i would rather work with everyone. ask NK i used to get suggestions off him at first. there is no glory in tweaking figures on a fifa game. guy i declare a partial true tht each of us should contibute bits for a world cup patch(my name goes first lol).

no need to fight. you shpuld all just blame ea for making a rather terrible game . tee hee

 

[sa33ood]

avok23, I totally agree with you man... This is a mature answer.

We should all work together for the sake of fixing the game to the better. No need for bragging and talking about ones life story in how he or she edited a file for 3 years, then million people downloaded it. lol it's so funny.

NK, I'm comment-less by what you said... oh my god man... ahhh.

Peace!

 

[Ash_Clarke]

Sorry to but in, but biggy's update isn't posted all over soccer gaming in the news as well as sweetpatch. Only ppl that look in this forum can find Biggy's update, and anyway they are more likely to try yours because its advertised on the main page of sweetpatch and SG, which will mean that users (who havent tried any other patches) will think that its advertised because its the best.

I have tried both and both are good in their own way. There is NO best as this is impossible for too very different (even if some files might be similar) gameplay patches.

I think that each patch has improvements needed, and they may well bee fixed in the next update. Some will like changes some will not, some may find it easy, some too hard. It is difficult to please everyone and again, there can be no 'everyone pleaser'. May come close but nah... cant happen there's always gonna be some dude wit something he/she don't like...

Anyways good luck with all future updates. they both rock. please continue to make them do so.

-- Ash Clarke