NFL 2012 Season Thread

[AndreaPirlo21]

He needs real play makers, I think hes done a good job considering he plays with scrubs at the skill positions.

Hernandez, Welker, and Lloyd are scrubs? I know Gronkowski is injured, but when you get to Brady a few times, he is all but finished. For most QB's this is the case.

 

[regularcat]

He needs real play makers, I think hes done a good job considering he plays with scrubs at the skill positions.

welker, lloyd, hernandez, gronkowski, branch are scrubs ?

looks pretty well surrounded to me.

he is a system qb that happened to be teamed up with a coach who may be one the brightest minds football has ever seen.
if he would have went anywhere else his pro career would have matched his college career at michigan.

not too mention it's not very hard to throw nothing but slants, 3 yard ins and flat routes for completions year after year.
his best season was made by randy moss.

 

[AndreaPirlo21]

We got a HarbaughBowl this year.

 

[jschuck12001]

Hernandez and Lloyd are scrubs? When you get to Brady a few times, he is all but finished. For most QB's this is the case.

Yes Lloyd is a scrub journeyman WR, Hernandez is good but not a game breaker. When I watched him at UF I thought he would be much better as a pro than he has been. When I say play makers I'm talking about players who make the other team game plan against them. The Patriots don't have anyone on the field like that with Gronk out.

 

[jschuck12001]

welker, lloyd, hernandez, gronkowski, branch are scrubs ?

looks pretty well surrounded to me.

he is a system qb that happened to be teamed up with a coach who may be one the brightest minds football has ever seen.
if he would have went anywhere else his pro career would have matched his college career at michigan.

Those guys are crap except Gronk and hes injured. The 2nd paragraph I wont address because we have battled enough on that topic. I just basically don't agree with anything you say when it comes to NFL football, we have 2 totally different mind sets on talent, great players, etc. Its all good.

 

[regularcat]

That guys are crap except Gronk and hes injured.

man welker catches 100+ balls every year and is a majority of brady' stats.
lloyd will catch about 99% of anything you throw his way.
hernandez is just as good as gronkowski he just doesn't get the credit because he doesn't do the dumb shit gronkowski does.
branch has always been good, man has a super bowl mvp on his resume.

 

[AndreaPirlo21]

I'm not saying Brady is a bad QB, just a slightly more clutch Peyton Manning.

 

[AndreaPirlo21]

lloyd will catch about 99% of anything you throw his way.

Not for the Skins

 

[regularcat]

I just basically don't agree with anything you say when it comes to NFL football, we have 2 totally different mind sets on talent, great players, etc. Its all good.

we see the game differently.

 

[regularcat]

I'm not saying Brady is a bad QB, just a slightly more clutch Peyton Manning.

for the stat fanatics and those who think brady is clutch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjlRLnqRnD0

 

[Back Door Skip]

Brady needs a big Julio Jones, Megatron or AJ Green type of playmaker. All his receivers are from the inside. Stopping the Pats is easy once it's a good enough D, and that is clogging the middle to force lower percentage passes.

Lloyd is a nice third choice at best and is sure-handed, but he's far from a weapon. Welker had his run but is continuous errant drops hurt, and hurt a lot. I suspect he'll be gone after this year. Hernandez, while a nice weapon, is not a playmaker on his own. He needs Gronk to really be effective, because without him, he's basically a bigger, slower Welker. So the only real weapon, consistent weapon is Gronk, but he appears to be injury prone.

The running backs look solid and there's also depth there, but still tend to go invisible when the going gets tough. Like I said, if Brady had a legitimate outside threat that could get separation, that could catch back shoulder throws or high passes, this team would be more dynamic. It's the same thing down the stretch. Really hot and dangerous, points by the bunches. But a tough defense comes and they can't score more than 20 points.

 

[AndreaPirlo21]

for the stat fanatics and those who think brady is clutch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjlRLnqRnD0

Proves my point, especially in the 'Bowl.

 

[jschuck12001]

man welker catches 100+ balls every year and is a majority of brady' stats.
lloyd will catch about 99% of anything you throw his way.
hernandez is just as good as gronkowski he just doesn't get the credit because he doesn't do the dumb shit gronkowski does.
branch has always been good, man has a super bowl mvp on his resume.

Any solid receiver will catch 100+ balls with Brady as the Qb, I have never seen Welker make a big time play to change a game in any big playoff game.

Lloyd has been with 6 teams in 12 years so no need to go any furthur.

I like Hernandez but your about the only one on earth who would say he is just as good as Gronk, he is always hurt and doesn't show up in big games.

 

[regularcat]

Not for the Skins

you guys were a curse for a long time, that may have been why.

lloyd has top 5 hands in the nfl easily and makes/made some ridiculous catches over the coarse of his career.

 

[AndreaPirlo21]

Brady needs a big Julio Jones, Megatron or AJ Green type of playmaker. All his receivers are from the inside. Stopping the Pats is easy once it's a good enough D, and that is clogging the middle to force lower percentage passes.

Lloyd is a nice third choice at best and is sure-handed, but he's far from a weapon. Welker had his run but is continuous errant drops hurt, and hurt a lot. I suspect he'll be gone after this year. Hernandez, while a nice weapon, is not a playmaker on his own. He needs Gronk to really be effective, because without him, he's basically a bigger, slower Welker. So the only real weapon, consistent weapon is Gronk, but he appears to be injury prone.

The running backs look solid and there's also depth there, but still tend to go invisible when the going gets tough. Like I said, if Brady had a legitimate outside threat that could get separation, that could catch back shoulder throws or high passes, this team would be more dynamic. It's the same thing down the stretch. Really hot and dangerous, points by the bunches. But a tough defense comes and they can't score more than 20 points.

You can't have all the cards; he has a good bunch, but I agree with you about the big target receiver.

 

[AndreaPirlo21]

you guys were a curse for a long time, that may have been why.

lloyd has top 5 hands in the nfl easily and makes/made some ridiculous catches over the coarse of his career.

Ha, yeah. Many players who left us went on the be better in their new teams.

 

[jschuck12001]

for the stat fanatics and those who think brady is clutch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjlRLnqRnD0

LOL, you would think Brady stole your girl or something. I'm not trying to start shit but your an Eagles fan and you don't hate Eli 1/8 as much as you hate Brady.

 

[AndreaPirlo21]

LOL, you would think Brady stole your girl or something. I'm not trying to start shit but your an Eagles fan and you don't hate Eli 1/8 as much as you hate Brady.

Well, you and me hate the Cowasses

 

[regularcat]

Brady needs a big Julio Jones, Megatron or AJ Green type of playmaker. All his receivers are from the inside. Stopping the Pats is easy once it's a good enough D, and that is clogging the middle to force lower percentage passes.

Lloyd is a nice third choice at best and is sure-handed, but he's far from a weapon. Welker had his run but is continuous errant drops hurt, and hurt a lot. I suspect he'll be gone after this year. Hernandez, while a nice weapon, is not a playmaker on his own. He needs Gronk to really be effective, because without him, he's basically a bigger, slower Welker. So the only real weapon, consistent weapon is Gronk, but he appears to be injury prone.

The running backs look solid and there's also depth there, but still tend to go invisible when the going gets tough. Like I said, if Brady had a legitimate outside threat that could get separation, that could catch back shoulder throws or high passes, this team would be more dynamic. It's the same thing down the stretch. Really hot and dangerous, points by the bunches. But a tough defense comes and they can't score more than 20 points.

exactly, so they are overrated.

Proves my point, especially in the 'Bowl.

had to put it out there.

Any solid receiver will catch 100+ balls with Brady as the Qb, I have never seen Welker make a big time play to change a game in any big playoff game.

Lloyd has been with 6 teams in 12 years so no need to go any furthur.

I like Hernandez but your about the only one on earth who would say he is just as good as Gronk, he is always hurt and doesn't show up in big games.

any team in the nfl would love to have those players over their own, they are good enough.

if brady was that good he would get it done with anyone, look at manning took demarius thomas and eric decker and made them good over a season.

brady can't touch manning, unfortunately for manning his worst games come post season.

 

[regularcat]

LOL, you would think Brady stole your girl or something. I'm not trying to start shit but your an Eagles fan and you don't hate Eli 1/8 as much as you hate Brady.

because eli doesn't get all the hype brady gets.

brady is the nfl's golden boy for no reason, he has a rule written for him.

and on top of that hype the supposed far superior quarterback brady gets he got beaten twice by eli who might be considered in the top 10 by anyone you ask.