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NFL 2013 Thread

MaestroZidane

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I hear they are handed down from families, and only possible way to get them is when someone can't make it and decides to sell it for that day.
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
MaestroZidane;3699201 said:
I hear they are handed down from families, and only possible way to get them is when someone can't make it and decides to sell it for that day.

This is true. The waiting list is over 100 years I believe. And that's with 2 separate ticket packages. The Pack used to play 3 games a year in Milwaukee every year, and even now there are 2 games each year for those ticket holders.

My dad has those, so presumably I'll be inheriting them.

Mus;3698901 said:
Are they good?

2 losing seasons in the last 22 years.

Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL.

No, the tickets are not cheaper, but they aren't that hard to get for a single game really.
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
QB: Aaron Rodgers (Green Bay)
RB: Adrian Peterson or Jamal Charles or LeSean McCoy
WR: Calvin Johnson
O-Line: No one cares
DE: JJ Watt
DT: JJ Watt
OLB: Clay Matthews
MLB: Luke Kuechly
CB: Richard Sherman
S: Eric Berry
 

Mandieta6

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I read that he was appealing to be considered a WR so that he can get more money. It seems kind of weird that positions are wage capped so differently. I'd get that people would pay more for a QB, but for that to be translated into a higher wage sounds bizarre.
 

Back Door Skip

Pedro
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Jimmy Graham isn't a TE. He's just a slow and soft basketball receiver.

And hard to say Gronk is the best TE as he has spent the last few years injured. When healthy he is the best tight end hands down, though.

Maybe Cameron if he didn't play with the Browns. Possibly Vernon Davis but he's not really a TE either.
 

Bobby

The Legend
Yeah, Graham is a slot receiver. He can't block for shit and rarely lines up as a TE anymore. Loves to flop, too.
 

Xifio

The Von Trapps
all hail Megatron!


Mus;3698380 said:
Also we're getting the NFL here on free to air, who should I support
if you have any family in the states who are tied to a team or region, you should go with that ...

otherwise, I spend a lot of time in Dallas, so let me know if you go with the Cowboys and want to vicariously experience a gameday at their amazing stadium ...
 

regularcat

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Mandieta6;3700588 said:
I read that he was appealing to be considered a WR so that he can get more money. It seems kind of weird that positions are wage capped so differently. I'd get that people would pay more for a QB, but for that to be translated into a higher wage sounds bizarre.

it's almost as if it is broken down by the more flashier the position the more money it brings.

no fan watches football to watch a lineman block or a punter punt.
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
Mandieta6;3700588 said:
I read that he was appealing to be considered a WR so that he can get more money. It seems kind of weird that positions are wage capped so differently. I'd get that people would pay more for a QB, but for that to be translated into a higher wage sounds bizarre.

Well, the actual concept is more complicated than that. You can pay whatever you want for any player at any position, it's not like TEs are capped and WRs are allowed to get more money. Jimmy Graham is in this situation because he is being "franchise tagged", which extends a player's contract for 1 year without his consent, but his salary for that year is an average of the top 5 players at his position. Teams pay more for WRs, especially the top 5 WRs in the league, so it is far more advantageous for him to be considered a WR for purposes of the franchise tag. The franchise tag is total bullshit, yes, but it was also fairly bargained for between the owners and player's union.

It's kind of like if Theo Walcott got tagged and fought to be considered a striker instead of a winger because strikers make more money.
 

Bobby

The Legend
regularcat;3700935 said:
it's almost as if it is broken down by the more flashier the position the more money it brings.

no fan watches football to watch a lineman block or a punter punt.

I love to watch Shane Lechler. Great talent.
 

Mandieta6

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Xifio;3700766 said:
all hail Megatron!


if you have any family in the states who are tied to a team or region, you should go with that ...

otherwise, I spend a lot of time in Dallas, so let me know if you go with the Cowboys and want to vicariously experience a gameday at their amazing stadium ...

You really can't resist nicknames can you? I thankfully know who Megatron is but it really must be a sickness for you to respind to a noob asking about best players by stating a nickname.

In reards to the franchise tag, why do you have a clause that allows teams to extend a contract beyond a player's consent? Does that violate some sort of labour law?
 

regularcat

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Bobby;3700945 said:
I love to watch Shane Lechler. Great talent.

you would, Bobby.

Mandieta6;3700991 said:
In regards to the franchise tag, why do you have a clause that allows teams to extend a contract beyond a player's consent? Does that violate some sort of labour law?

it doesn't violate any law, like Shifty said it was negotiated between the players and the league as part of the collective bargaining agreement.

it allows a team to keep a player who's contract is up and the team wishes to keep the player whether or not the player wants to stay.

the team pays a heavier price for using the "franchise tag" if the player plays a position which pays a much higher salary.

a player can always hold out but will lose money as fines add up for holding out, wes welker and the patriots are a good example.
 

Mandieta6

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Isn't forcing someone to work when he doesn't want to and has served his contract kind of like slavery?
 

Mandieta6

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Also, what if you were earning the most out of everyone at your position? Wouldn't you be forced to stay AND lose money?
 

regularcat

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Mandieta6;3701135 said:
Isn't forcing someone to work when he doesn't want to and has served his contract kind of like slavery?

no it's not a form of slavery, usually when a player is a team player they will accept the tag since it's only for a year.

in welker's case, he wanted a bigger contract and they weren't interested in giving him one, so they slapped him with the "franchise tag".

the players in the NFL elect players and others to represent them at the collective bargaining meetings, if they decided to reach agreement on 'franchising" they have to deal with it as players.

Mandieta6;3701137 said:
Also, what if you were earning the most out of everyone at your position? Wouldn't you be forced to stay AND lose money?

not sure how this works, i am assuming there is a max amount, somewhere around 10 million/1 year.

don't quote me on that but i believe i had heard this on ESPN.
 

Mandieta6

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I get that if the union bargained for it then they accept it but it sounds extremely backwards to me for someone to be forced to work somewhere he doesn't want to work at anymore. What if he wants to retire?
 


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