To be honest the latest updates are rubbish even though they're betas, the last one being the worst. If you don't want to seriously make good game play patches anymore why didn't you just say so instead of making fun of us wasting our time. You see, I knew it will come to this. I'm referring to you getting bored just like we did waiting for an at least decent product from you which eventually didn't come out although we gave you feedback for a whole year. A whole year for what?You can count me out from now on. It's useless. Have fun making 30 other different game play patches for FIFA 08 just like 07 and none of them good.
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cosminnfs;2399475 said:
Aint you being Harsh???
N are you talking about the latest WE 2008 BETA PATCH which was just released???
The patch before the last patch with the option to choose between noobs and advanced was the best patch yet made by NK and all of us here except you agrees on that.
Define "best patch". By best patch do you mean:
-human goalkeeper is stupid and knocks the ball in the goal when he tries to stop a short and the CPU keeper in exchange has super human reflexes ? Like you shoot from 2 meters with max power and the keeper saves it ?
-CPU players win 80% of header and have an incredible reach when they intercept a pass or on a 1vs1 situation.
-a CPU player with sprint speed of 70 is at least as fast as Thierry Henry ?
- Freekicks go 2 meters over the goal even if you power up 5% ?
- human players that are completely unmarked and directly in front of goal shoot 2-3 meters wide or over even at 20% power up.
- Almost every CPU free kick is a goal
- Crosses are useless because CPU players close down the passing lanes or get in front of the receiver with lightning speed ?
- CPU players mark everywhere on the field every player although they shouldn't mark that much and that good.
- The CPU deffence is made of 8 players (4 defenders and 4 midfielders)
- Pace Control useless.
- CPU players are rock solid on they feet so the human players are little children.
- Dribblings are almost useless because if you succesfully do a dribble and get past a cpu player that cpu player pushed you aside and a second and third cpu players come and picks up the ball.
- at least 3 players chasing the human player with the ball
- When you try and tackle a CPU player you spin around him or push him and cause a stupid foul.
- High through balls go way ahead of the receiver
- human players stand like dummies waiting for the ball but they wait so long that the CPU player comes with lightning speed an take it away.
- and many many more which i'm tired to write because there are a lot of them and let me just say that right now I'm like a bomb waiting to explode because of nerves and anger (don't know why, maybe because I see no reason in playing FIFA anymore which is my fav game btw) because I have came to the conclusion that NK is laughing at us wasting our time or he's mentally retarded which I highly doubt it and this is because what i wrote earlier are things that you people and especially NK should of noticed. These are not game play patches people. These are... I don't even know the word for it. So anyway, I feel when I'm playing FIFA now with these patches that the CPU is making fun of me, taunting me, bulling me etc. like it's saying to me "Hehe, Hihi youre an idiot, give up it's useless we're gonna trash you, you have no chance" and things like that. I know what you're thinking and that is that i've gone nuts but maybe I did cause I can't stand it anymore. FIFA is a GAME and we're supposed to enjoy it, not make you wanna smash your 19inch wide LG LCD (Cause many times I was almost to that point). And what I really don't get is how can you play FIFA with these updates ? Are you not humans ? You're robots who only want to try and beat certain teams like challenges and such ? Maybe that's why NK is making these updates so "hard" (and I put the "" because in stead of hard it's stupid, a game should not be made hard by making it no fair) because of you people. Well guess what. It's a game, not reality that's why the CPU isn't so smart to beat you like you can beat it and just because of this it dosen't mean you have to make it able to beat you because it will beat you by making you have certain handicaps. Anyway wtf I am keep saying, I'm talking for nothing anyway cause nobody listens to me, everybody says i'm crazy. So anyway you get the point. And I repeat, i'm out of this. Count me out. I can't stand it anymore and i'm still young, i don't have to shorten my life by getting mad for nothing. Bye all
-human goalkeeper is stupid and knocks the ball in the goal when he tries to stop a short and the CPU keeper in exchange has super human reflexes ? Like you shoot from 2 meters with max power and the keeper saves it ?
-CPU players win 80% of header and have an incredible reach when they intercept a pass or on a 1vs1 situation.
-a CPU player with sprint speed of 70 is at least as fast as Thierry Henry ?
- Freekicks go 2 meters over the goal even if you power up 5% ?
- human players that are completely unmarked and directly in front of goal shoot 2-3 meters wide or over even at 20% power up.
- Almost every CPU free kick is a goal
- Crosses are useless because CPU players close down the passing lanes or get in front of the receiver with lightning speed ?
- CPU players mark everywhere on the field every player although they shouldn't mark that much and that good.
- The CPU deffence is made of 8 players (4 defenders and 4 midfielders)
- Pace Control useless.
- CPU players are rock solid on they feet so the human players are little children.
- Dribblings are almost useless because if you succesfully do a dribble and get past a cpu player that cpu player pushed you aside and a second and third cpu players come and picks up the ball.
- at least 3 players chasing the human player with the ball
- When you try and tackle a CPU player you spin around him or push him and cause a stupid foul.
- High through balls go way ahead of the receiver
- human players stand like dummies waiting for the ball but they wait so long that the CPU player comes with lightning speed an take it away.
- and many many more which i'm tired to write because there are a lot of them and let me just say that right now I'm like a bomb waiting to explode because of nerves and anger (don't know why, maybe because I see no reason in playing FIFA anymore which is my fav game btw) because I have came to the conclusion that NK is laughing at us wasting our time or he's mentally retarded which I highly doubt it and this is because what i wrote earlier are things that you people and especially NK should of noticed. These are not game play patches people. These are... I don't even know the word for it. So anyway, I feel when I'm playing FIFA now with these patches that the CPU is making fun of me, taunting me, bulling me etc. like it's saying to me "Hehe, Hihi youre an idiot, give up it's useless we're gonna trash you, you have no chance" and things like that. I know what you're thinking and that is that i've gone nuts but maybe I did cause I can't stand it anymore. FIFA is a GAME and we're supposed to enjoy it, not make you wanna smash your 19inch wide LG LCD (Cause many times I was almost to that point). And what I really don't get is how can you play FIFA with these updates ? Are you not humans ? You're robots who only want to try and beat certain teams like challenges and such ? Maybe that's why NK is making these updates so "hard" (and I put the "" because in stead of hard it's stupid, a game should not be made hard by making it no fair) because of you people. Well guess what. It's a game, not reality that's why the CPU isn't so smart to beat you like you can beat it and just because of this it dosen't mean you have to make it able to beat you because it will beat you by making you have certain handicaps. Anyway wtf I am keep saying, I'm talking for nothing anyway cause nobody listens to me, everybody says i'm crazy. So anyway you get the point. And I repeat, i'm out of this. Count me out. I can't stand it anymore and i'm still young, i don't have to shorten my life by getting mad for nothing. Bye all
nickclubman
Starting XI
cosminnfs;2399497 said:
I think you need to calm down. This is only a game and the beta released was for advanced gamers. You clearly are not one of them.
Do you use man-marking, appropriate tactics and formations? Do you use team mentality and pace-control in the right places where it is advised to be used? I have no problem using pace-control to my advantage.
You come here making claims that these update I do for you are rubbish. That is rude, and you are arrogant in your words, in such you speak of facts when all you do is spout out opinions, with yes...LOGICAL reason, but you did not just play a beginner version of WE2008 BETA, you played the advanced. You are not an advanced gamer, that is obvious. WE2008 takes out many exploits, which means scoring is rewarding and a challenge.
The original EA gameplay is a CPU advantage throughout each increasing difficulty level. I am doing nothing different. Your argument is with EA SPORTS not me, so show some gratitude for my time I spend on this game. I don't do it for someone to be rude. If you have feedback, at least have the courtesy to be polite. Constructive feedback goes a lot further that loud mouthing like an e-thug.
I have read some of your past feedback. You claim WE5 was good on professional level because you were up 2-0 at half time, yet World Class was rubbish because you were down 1-0 at half time. I'm sorry but the score-line does not reflect how good an update is and neither does the difficulty level. The difficulty level reflects on how good the PLAYER is and you clearly aren't good enough for World Class, which I think hurts your ego. Be honest, it annoys you that Professional level is too challenging, yet you won't move down to semi-pro or amateur because that will make you feel like less of a man. That's not the way to give feedback!
Do me a favour and get better, so next time you play you don't feel the urge to come in here and give your very rude feedback!
Nick.
p.s. You're right they're not gameplay patches, they're gameplay UPDATES. I patch nothing, I update the play for gamers who are too good for the original EA gameplay. I suggest you play EA's Legendary difficulty until you beat it without having to think. That keyboard will do you no favours either, this isn't FIFA 99.
nickclubman
Starting XI
cosminnfs;2399475 said:
Sorry for wasting your time, I didn't realise I was making an update for you.
wake up Carlos*as$ there's only you complaining in such a rude way! Hint hint. Go learn how to play.
Bye!!!
SportzNut23
Club Supporter
cosminnfs;2399497 said:
No... I don't want immense incredibly hard challenges. I want realism. I want to turn on the game and wonder if I'm watching a game or a real match. I want to feel as if I can lose, even though I'm playing as Chelsea, against anyone, especially better teams. But I also want to feel is if I play the way that real football dictates, then I will do well.
By my observations, you are one of the few people giving feedback who are playing at a level below World Class or even Professional. The majority of the hardcore players play above that. I don't want to play Man U and score 15 goals in 10 secs or feel like I can dictate the game whenever I stop screwing around. But I don't want them to score at will on me either.
Turn up the difficulty and you may see a different game.
SportzNut23
Club Supporter
NK FOOTBALL ©;2399318 said:
And to NK... I give... you got us. I thought that beta played a bit funny and I didn't think you'd take a step backward without a good reason. Looking forward to playing this current beta more intently after I get back from work. It looks good so far.
All I wanted was to be able to play fifa and enjoy it. I don't want to play FIFA so I can complete challenges by beating teams at different difficulty levels like "Hey ssj4karan, I released a very hard game play; do you accept the challenge to succeed in beating a team? ssj4karan: Hell yeah. I just won 9-0 on Legendary against a big team. I want it harder!; Ok I'll release an even harder one etc." That's what hardcore players do like ssj4karan. I want to be able to at least put 2-3 passes one after another without the fear of 5 CPU players surrounding me once I get the ball so I can feel rewarded when I'm able to pull off a good realistic and rewarding build-up. I want to be able to take advantage of some players like Messi and Ronaldinho with they're abbilities so I can feel rewarded when I dribble a defender, but ATM Ronaldinho's a nobody who every defender with a rating of 60 gets the ball of him and reads his mind at every pass. My style of play is passing around to make constructive plays like realistic plays, but hardcore players only pass it forward all the time and do endless through balls to score score score taking advantage of FIFA's exploits/faults. No wonder they have 5-5 6-3 8-6 scores. You seem to make hard game play nowadays not realistic ones and that's what I want. Is that really too much to ask and most of all understand? And even if I win every time I don't care because I want to have fun, enjoy myself.
And BTW I play at lower difficulty levels because I'm searching for realism in these lower difficulty levels because (I hope) the CPU is at a level of difficulty similar to the realistic one. I don't want ping pong matches at WC or Pro.
And I'm not saying I want you to make me a game play cause I'm just an ordinary individual playing FIFA the computer game, i just tried and explained to you what i expected/wanted because I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants at least a bit of what I want and one of those people is SportzNut23 as you can see from his lower reply.
And BTW I play at lower difficulty levels because I'm searching for realism in these lower difficulty levels because (I hope) the CPU is at a level of difficulty similar to the realistic one. I don't want ping pong matches at WC or Pro.
And I'm not saying I want you to make me a game play cause I'm just an ordinary individual playing FIFA the computer game, i just tried and explained to you what i expected/wanted because I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants at least a bit of what I want and one of those people is SportzNut23 as you can see from his lower reply.
NK FOOTBALL ©
Senior Squad
bruce;2399622 said:
Thanks mate and yes LOL you are right! That type of shot goes off on one, thanks for pointing out this bug, I will fix it.
I'm making GK kicks go even further now too. It's quite fun kicking it almost near the opp's box. It's still very hard to win the ball though so no easy quick goals.
Thanks again,
NK.
Uf NK.....
I`m just dissapionted how the game speed is in this new BETA
You speed it up again , and push it to super speed,
I have head-pains when watching ball go left and right...
(Like Pinball-football)
I HOPE YOU CAN SLOW IT DOWN LIKE IN PREVIOUS BETA !
Shooting can also be fixed a litlle, as scoring the goal is much much harder for human
,CPU is scoring good.
And CPU realy wins 80% of headers
Or ball just bouns of my player right into CPU legs....
There are to many nonsence fouls for CPU, maybe you can check it out also.
PS
I played PRO on normal speed.
I`m just dissapionted how the game speed is in this new BETA
You speed it up again , and push it to super speed,
I have head-pains when watching ball go left and right...
(Like Pinball-football)
I HOPE YOU CAN SLOW IT DOWN LIKE IN PREVIOUS BETA !
Shooting can also be fixed a litlle, as scoring the goal is much much harder for human
,CPU is scoring good.
And CPU realy wins 80% of headers
Or ball just bouns of my player right into CPU legs....
There are to many nonsence fouls for CPU, maybe you can check it out also.
PS
I played PRO on normal speed.
NK FOOTBALL ©
Senior Squad
The update is going to be sent out now for final testing. It will then be decided whether to release it tomorrow or on Friday. Not long to wait.
An 'easy' option will be available with WE2008 giving gamers a chance to humilate the CPU and not feel under threat too often. This option will be for gamers who love to win, win, win and still conceive a number of goals to give them a thrill.
Thanks guys and my apologies for my out-burst earlier. I started feeling the community pressure as demands get higher, it's difficult raising the bar at times when you have feedback from two sides of the spectrum.
Peace,
NK.
An 'easy' option will be available with WE2008 giving gamers a chance to humilate the CPU and not feel under threat too often. This option will be for gamers who love to win, win, win and still conceive a number of goals to give them a thrill.
Thanks guys and my apologies for my out-burst earlier. I started feeling the community pressure as demands get higher, it's difficult raising the bar at times when you have feedback from two sides of the spectrum.
Peace,
NK.
cosminnfs;2399598 said:
Dude all i can say is get better at the game..You still dont know how or whom to pass at the right time...Most of your complaints are because you are not very good and thats a fact.Nk cant make a patch specially for one person..If he makes a exclusive patch for me,All you people will be crying...So just play it and try to master it..The patches are getting realistic all the time and you should also think about improving you skill and evolve and try out new tactics.
Hi,
Here's my feedback on WE2008 BETA:
I played France Vs Classic 11 in legendary difficulty 20 mins match.
I won it 3-0.
It was good but you have to work on these area's.
The defence was very good...They marked well and tackled well but i feel this can be taken to the next level by you NK
The attack was poor...This is a place where you need to put some serious effort.No sting in their attack and they were wasting chances by taking some stupid long shots...You have got to take care of this area.
The ball physics also needs to be worked upon as sometimes it did not look clear as to what was happening with the ball..It did some funny things now and then.
The GK's are good but can be improved..They still deflect ball hit straight to them into the goal..Not like before but still do and most of their deflections hit the post instead of going out..So you can make this better and also improve the GK's.
The shot mechanic was a bit hard but it was nothing i could not handle..But i still prefer the previous shot mechanic.In this the angle shots and finesse shots go 60% wide even without pressure,So it will be better if you could do something about this area.
Well i guess that's it and hope it helps you to improve your updates.
Will be waiting to see the changes in the next Release
Cheers 
Here's my feedback on WE2008 BETA:
I played France Vs Classic 11 in legendary difficulty 20 mins match.
I won it 3-0.
It was good but you have to work on these area's.
The defence was very good...They marked well and tackled well but i feel this can be taken to the next level by you NK
The attack was poor...This is a place where you need to put some serious effort.No sting in their attack and they were wasting chances by taking some stupid long shots...You have got to take care of this area.
The ball physics also needs to be worked upon as sometimes it did not look clear as to what was happening with the ball..It did some funny things now and then.
The GK's are good but can be improved..They still deflect ball hit straight to them into the goal..Not like before but still do and most of their deflections hit the post instead of going out..So you can make this better and also improve the GK's.
The shot mechanic was a bit hard but it was nothing i could not handle..But i still prefer the previous shot mechanic.In this the angle shots and finesse shots go 60% wide even without pressure,So it will be better if you could do something about this area.
Well i guess that's it and hope it helps you to improve your updates.
Will be waiting to see the changes in the next Release
Cheers
dule982k;2399683 said:Uf NK.....
I`m just dissapionted how the game speed is in this new BETA
You speed it up again , and push it to super speed,
I have head-pains when watching ball go left and right...
(Like Pinball-football)
I HOPE YOU CAN SLOW IT DOWN LIKE IN PREVIOUS BETA !
Shooting can also be fixed a litlle, as scoring the goal is much much harder for human
,CPU is scoring good.
And CPU realy wins 80% of headers
Or ball just bouns of my player right into CPU legs....
There are to many nonsence fouls for CPU, maybe you can check it out also.
PS
I played PRO on normal speed.
1.Dude i dont mind the speed cause i play it on fast..I feel uncomfortable playing it on normal but i agree reducing the speed a little will help it make better
2.Shooting is hard i agree but you can score and i have not seen the cpu find it easy to score either and i play on legendary..They take too many un-wanted long shots and i want this area to be better and like you even i prefer the previous shot mechanics but with the bugs i mentioned earlier removed.
3.I dont find the CPU winning 80% of the headers.I win it more than them and previously there were fouls given for this but now no fouls like it should be and i like it
4.I think the fouling system was improved as less un wanted fouls were given..Will play more and confirm on this point.
I've been playing FIFA for 5 freakin' years and I also play excellent outside football so this leaves me no choice as to upload a 16minute match video of how I play to show you just what my problem is and you can judge the video too. Pff... Not good at the game...be serious !