NK FOOTBALL © : FIFA ™ “GAMEPLAY UPDATE” 07; what do you want the most?

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

oh my you guys are in for a treat! fifa 07 pc has never played so good! I'd go as far as saying this is certainly closer to the likes of PES6, much harder defence, shooting, overall playability. More fouls, injuries, more action!! Certainly the greater feeling of a much deeper learning curve, something many fifa titles have lacked in the past. The pick up and play feel remains, naturally to the solid game engine, but the new AI files are making for a much more tactical game, with even more balanced ball physics!

Version 2 will be out soon, stay tuned.
NK.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

hey guys check out these results, evidence of more fouls! only just scrapped through for the win here 3-2.

NK.

 

[Neo20007]

more tricks and more intelligent goalkeepers

 

[pfk505]

NK

The number of fouls are awesome.. very realistic and even handed. Still have yet to experience an injury (which I dont really mind, since I got one in every 2nd match in Fifa06). My only gripe so far with the update is that the goalkeepers, especially the user keeper, still acts like a retard. I even had a goal scored against me where my keeper just fell down and let a poor shot with no pace that was shot straight at him into the goal. The user keeper routinely ignores attackers right in front of the net and gives up rebounds on pathetic, weak shots. One thing I did notice though on the positive side is that both keepers are coming out of the goal alot more. This is hugely important to me, since they almost never did with the original EA gameplay.

That stuff aside, your update for fifa07 has made the game immensly more enjoyable for me. Its definately more difficult than the EA gameplay, and I am having way more fun with the game (which I wasnt sure I would, since the stock gameplay and physics were great overall for 07. I used your updates religiously for 06).

Now, if only there were a way to make it easier to beat weaker sides and harder to beat stronger ones. Im not sure if its possible. I got beat 2-1 (4-3 on penalties) recently by Grimsby Town in the League Cup (playing as Bolton). I had a hell of a time even scoring my 1 goal. Chelsea and Arsenal in season play, however, were almost pushovers.

 

[jackbauer]

NK,

Great to have you back. Excellent work as always. I'm really enjoying '07 because of the update.

I recently downloaded the File Reader and have been looking at the ini.big file. I have made some adjustments in that file for the World Class level. Is there where you are making most of your changes?

I've felt that on the WC level the CPU passing and shooting is way too accurate and the Human Goalkeeping is just a joke. After looking at a number of box scores from real games it seems as if the shooting accuracy is right around 30% for all teams. With regards to fouls, teams were being called for somewhere between 10-15 fouls per game per team.

After the I made the changes it seems the game has a little more balance. For my playing style anyway. I will usually beat a team in the lower division, struggle against the top teams, and play tight with teams with similar ratings to my Spurs squad.

Here are the ratings that I've changed and what the values were prior to the change:

Human Intercept Skill-from 2 to 3. I may drop this back to two becuase the possesion number usally favor me heavily at the end of the game.
Human Goalie-moved to 500 from 162...this rating was a joke.
CPU Bad Pass%-moved from 3 to 6
CPU Bad Tackle%-moved from 5 to 7
CPU Int Skill-from 12 down to 10
CPU Close Down Speed-from 188 down to 166
CPU Action Error Rate (not sure what this is)-from 0 to 2
CPU Set Play Aggression-from 150 to 130..I may Carlos this back up
CPU Set Play Accuracy-from 150 to 130
CPU Shot Action Skill-from 59 down to 50...the accuracy is much more realistic now. Before the adjustment everything was on goal.
CPU Press Max Distance Normal-from 24 down to 20. This value was the same as the Aggresive Setting. Why would they leave the same setting for Normal and Aggressive? I may change this to 22.
CPU Speed Ratio During Transition-from 127 down to 122. (Not sure if this is for Offense, Defense, or both)


I still feel that there is too much running in open space for both the CPU and the USER. Especially in the middle of the field. Would you consider experimenting with shrinking the field size? I thought that you did this is FIFA 06? I noticed the values in the file but haven't changed them yet. I think a smaller field would also give us more fouls and fewer "quality scoring chances" as the players would be closer together on the smaller field. This would make set plays and players with better ratings all that more important.

One last unresolved issue that I'm seeing is that my CPU defenders often times fall asleep in the box and leave an opposing player wide open in the box. Kind of frustrating.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

Thank you pfk505 I strive for only the best And to please gamers such as yourself who are far too skilled for the original gameplay design. So thank you very much for your kind words and I guarantee much better gameplay for version 2.

And Carlos*bauer, thanks for your concern to attempt editing the files for your prefered 'style of play', this is important as if it is only playable for a few players' and not for the rest of the community, I feel it's a bit of a waste. However, in this case after looking at what you have edited I do believe you have a different playing style to many here, which will be the result and perhaps your feel that you want to 'dumb down' the CPU. In any case, version 2 will be much more of a challenge, but come with the feel that one can learn, rather than 'one is screwed' lol.

Thanks guys, more news soon.
NK.

 

[peebo]

oh my you guys are in for a treat! fifa 07 pc has never played so good! I'd go as far as saying this is certainly closer to the likes of PES6, much harder defence, shooting, overall playability. More fouls, injuries, more action!! Certainly the greater feeling of a much deeper learning curve, something many fifa titles have lacked in the past. The pick up and play feel remains, naturally to the solid game engine, but the new AI files are making for a much more tactical game, with even more balanced ball physics!

Version 2 will be out soon, stay tuned.
NK.

Excellent!

Work your magic NK and can't wait for version 2

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

Excellent!

Work your magic NK and can't wait for version 2

Thanks Peebo.

In regards to the higher demand for better defence both user and cpu, I have now made it much harder to turn a defender by simply running using skill, now the best option when not using highly skilled players' would be to pass as defenders take less time to 'recover' from paced-moves which in the past left them some what 'dumb' in the space in which they were positioning themselves. But now, this is much less of a problem and defenders for both you and the cpu's team will do a much better job as keeping track of the Henry's and Rooney's of your team. This does NOT mean they can run at the same pace, it simply means they will be better at taking the ball off you and so will your players', making for a much tighter match.

It's all good!:mexican:

NK.

 

[Tizmo]

have you got a release date yet?

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

have you got a release date yet?

The release date is still TBC. However, I may be releasing a signed beta that will allow some more of the serious fans to get to grips with the 2nd version and offer their feedback for improvements before the official release, but this too isn't certain. The update itself however, it still strong and looking like a winner! So stay with me and good gameplay will come your way

NK.

 

[jackbauer]

Thank you pfk505 I strive for only the best And to please gamers such as yourself who are far too skilled for the original gameplay design. So thank you very much for your kind words and I guarantee much better gameplay for version 2.

And Carlos*bauer, thanks for your concern to attempt editing the files for your prefered 'style of play', this is important as if it is only playable for a few players' and not for the rest of the community, I feel it's a bit of a waste. However, in this case after looking at what you have edited I do believe you have a different playing style to many here, which will be the result and perhaps your feel that you want to 'dumb down' the CPU. In any case, version 2 will be much more of a challenge, but come with the feel that one can learn, rather than 'one is screwed' lol.

Thanks guys, more news soon.
NK.

NK,

Thanks for the reply. I hope you didn't interpret my post a crack on your mod. That was not my intention at all. I bought this game the last two years because of your mod.

The intention of my post was to try to get some clarification on some of the meanings in the file and to get your thoughts on shrinking the field size.

Regarding the file, is it safe to assume that if you are not in control of a player on the pitch the CPU ratings in the file applies to your teammates?

I am all for making the game more challenging and utilizing the strengths and weaknesses of the players. Like I said in my post, I feel that with the way that I have the settings in the file there is too much dribbling and I as looking for some help to reduce this. It sounds like that is being addressed in version 2. I look forward to getting it.

 

[peebo]

Yo NK,

I just reinstalled my game because I wanted the updated versions of CEP and CM07 and I noticed that CEP installs a situation.ini file with these values:

RENDER_RATE_MODE = 2
MOMENTUM_ENABLED = 1
VIDEO=0
USE_SQUARE_RESISTENCE = 1
USE_COMBINED_VELOCITY_RESISTENCE = 1
USE_SLIDING_ROLLING_FRICTION = 1
USE_AIR_BACK_SPIN = 1
USE_SPECIAL_PHYSICS = 1

Do these settings mess with with your gameplay at all ? I have no idea what all this stuff means (ball physics maybe?)...just wanted to give you a heads up about it.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

Yo NK,

I just reinstalled my game because I wanted the updated versions of CEP and CM07 and I noticed that CEP installs a situation.ini file with these values:

RENDER_RATE_MODE = 2
MOMENTUM_ENABLED = 1
VIDEO=0
USE_SQUARE_RESISTENCE = 1
USE_COMBINED_VELOCITY_RESISTENCE = 1
USE_SLIDING_ROLLING_FRICTION = 1
USE_AIR_BACK_SPIN = 1
USE_SPECIAL_PHYSICS = 1

Do these settings mess with with your gameplay at all ? I have no idea what all this stuff means (ball physics maybe?)...just wanted to give you a heads up about it.

Hmm possibly will yes, I will look into this and let you know. If you want the gameplay to be just mie then obviously these settings might change a few things, possibly unbalance it. But as I haven't tried it I can't confirm that claim.

NK.

 

[bruno167]

You can simple delete that file and continue using CEP

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

You can simple delete that file and continue using CEP

I'll take your word for it.

NK.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

check out the fouls man-u did on me in this game. NOT from slide tackles

NK.

 

[pfk505]

I just had the most aggravating experience to date with this game.. So much so that I felt compelled to go out and find out how to convert replays to AVI! Im playing with Bolton vs. Villa, and this happens not once but twice.

First time is a shot from just outside the box at a bad angle, left hand side. Shot goes straight at the keeper. Keeper punches the ball up into the net. Now I might understand this if it were a powerful shot, but it wasnt.

Minutes later from a free kick from further out, the EXACT SAME THING happens. Makes me wish I had saved the first replay too to show you guys. Jaaskelienen is a ******* 82 keeper this is just ridiculous. NK, PLEASE, make the user keeper a little better, or please tell me how to do so. I dont mind being scored on, but I do mind having a dunce for a keeper.

http://www3.telus.net/pfk505/fifa_retard.avi (divx, 980kb)

not sure if you can tell by the replay, but that wasnt a powerful shot by any means.

edit: on an unrelated note, do most of you guys play 6 or 8 min halfs? im finding too many goals being scored in my games, and my goal totals in the table look weird compared to the cpu teams.

 

[StevePitts]

do most of you guys play 6 or 8 min halfs?

FWIW, just to provide a data point, I play 6 minutes on normal game speed (but using the default gameplay) and generally find that there are too many goals scored in my team's games (not enough scoreless draws and/or games where there is a single goal per side)

 

[peebo]

Hmm possibly will yes, I will look into this and let you know. If you want the gameplay to be just mie then obviously these settings might change a few things, possibly unbalance it. But as I haven't tried it I can't confirm that claim.

NK.

Well after playing a few games with and without the situation.ini file, I can honestly say that there really doesn't seem to be any noticable difference in gameplay (still very good). I think (if my mind isn't playing tricks on me) that the ball seems to have more weight to it without the situation.ini file. Others may feel differently though.

You can simple delete that file and continue using CEP

Exactly what I did

 

[Tizmo]

i play with NK's update, 8 minute halves and i use "slow" gameplay. not too many goals are scored, it is pretty even.