One-on-one question

[RadiationMan7]

Playing the game, I've noticed that the shooting system is a bit awkward. Why do I say this? Because sometimes when I tap the shoot button the ball goes flying over. But my main concern is one-on-one situations. It seems that they are almost impossible to convert. I've had many one-on-one situations up till now and I've only managed to score on two or three occasions. It seems that whenever I press the shoot button, the ball hits the keepers as he dives. It's frustrating...So what's the best way to score on one-on-ones?

 

[niceman]

Playing the game, I've noticed that the shooting system is a bit awkward. Why do I say this? Because sometimes when I tap the shoot button the ball goes flying over. But my main concern is one-on-one situations. It seems that they are almost impossible to convert. I've had many one-on-one situations up till now and I've only managed to score on two or three occasions. It seems that whenever I press the shoot button, the ball hits the keepers as he dives. It's frustrating...So what's the best way to score on one-on-ones?

Chipshot...

Fakefeint shot to round keeper...

Shoot + R2 (innerside)...

 

[RadiationMan7]

Ok thanks..I'll give it a try. Also, do any of you use the Auto Setting in the Formation Settings Menu? And do you know what it actually does?

 

[FreddieP786]

Excellent advice Elkjaer..... you can also try using this advice as well....

Positioning is also very important when coming into penalty area..... if you come in straight from the centre..... then using Elkjaer's way is the best way to score..... but if you come in diagonally from the left or right side of the penalty area (meaning if you run into the penalty area from the wings) then you should try aiming for the near post and not the far post.... the goalkeepers usually go str8 for the unmarked area (the far post)...... so even if you use very little power and aim for the near post 80% of the time you will score....

Just a tip: one of the best value for money strikers in the game is Luis Garcia from Liverpool.....

 

[RadiationMan7]

Excellent advice Elkjaer..... you can also try using this advice as well....

Positioning is also very important when coming into penalty area..... if you come in straight from the centre..... then using Elkjaer's way is the best way to score..... but if you come in diagonally from the left or right side of the penalty area (meaning if you run into the penalty area from the wings) then you should try aiming for the near post and not the far post.... the goalkeepers usually go str8 for the unmarked area (the far post)...... so even if you use very little power and aim for the near post 80% of the time you will score....

Just a tip: one of the best value for money strikers in the game is Luis Garcia from Liverpool.....

Ok thanks

 

[techtrance11]

just round the keeper. far easier 2 do in pro evo 6

 

[O'neill]

Chipshot...

Fakefeint shot to round keeper...

Shoot + R2 (innerside)...

But excuse me, first explain the games inconsistancy. At any other time anywhere else I tap the shoot button, I get the shoot I expect, except it might be feeble. Now I'm in the box I tap the button, correct body shape, not under extreme pressure. But it balloons over. This is not realistic. You might expect a real player to shoot at the keeper, scuff his foot on the ground etc, but to balloon over 90% of the time from a tapped button? The game just minimizes the advantage you have worked so hard to gain and you expect me to think its realistic? Now when your in the box its more complicated to get an accurate shot because you now have to think about button combinations and of course it makes it harder than Fifa07 to master and so you score less goals. This doesnt make it a better game, just makes it harder thats all because its inconsistent. If I want to put my foot through the ball it doesnt matter where I am on the pitch in real football, the ball doesnt do a harrier vertical take off and I can put my foot through the ball instinctively and uncomplicated and the ball keeps down unless I try to over power it.

 

[domin8or]

Yeah, I must agree. They really screwed up the shooting system in PES6. Even with very skillful players it goes flying way over the goal.

 

[deluxxe]

I don't have this problem. If you're square to the goal and not under any pressure, a tapped shot should almost always go on target. If there is a defender near, or you're not square to the goal, a tapped shoot will have inconsistent results.
90% of the time on one on one's I'll shoot from just outside the penalty area. Sometimes i'll get stopped be often the shot goes in. When inside the penalty area niceman's methods work well.

 

[O'neill]

I don't have this problem. If you're square to the goal and not under any pressure, a tapped shot ..........

What if your under a bit of pressure, in real football you may get a weaker shot on target, but those those that go way over the bar, very rare in real football. Watch all the live matches this weekend and tell me how many shots have gone way over from inside the area.
Anyway deluxxe, I'm not dismissing your opinions and I dont mind people who say they prefer it that way and that it makes it harder and thats what you want. Its people banging on about PES being the most realistic soccer game that get my goat.

 

[niceman]

But excuse me, first explain the games inconsistancy. At any other time anywhere else I tap the shoot button, I get the shoot I expect, except it might be feeble. Now I'm in the box I tap the button, correct body shape, not under extreme pressure. But it balloons over. This is not realistic. You might expect a real player to shoot at the keeper, scuff his foot on the ground etc, but to balloon over 90% of the time from a tapped button? The game just minimizes the advantage you have worked so hard to gain and you expect me to think its realistic? Because the game now when your in the box make the shooting more complicated to get an accurate shot because you now have to think about button combinations and of course it makes it harder than Fifa07 to master and so you score less goals. This doesnt make it a better game, just makes it harder thats all because its inconsistent. If I want to put my foot through the ball it doesnt matter where I am on the pitch in real football, the ball doesnt do a harrier vertical take off and I can put my foot through the ball instinctively and uncomplicated and it keeps down unless I try to over power it.

I guess u r better at crying than at playing PES 6...

 

[deluxxe]

Watch all the live matches this weekend and tell me how many shots have gone way over from inside the area.

i would love to watch some games this weekend, unfortunately, here on the west coast of canada we have to get up at 4am to watch them

 

[Nomad]

I think the shoot meter is just extra sensitive this year. If it were slower by just a tad it'd be fine. I also don't like the new outside-the-foot shot. Otherwise, I'm enjoying the challenge.

 

[O'neill]

I think the shoot meter is just extra sensitive this year. If it were slower by just a tad it'd be fine. I also don't like the new outside-the-foot shot. Otherwise, I'm enjoying the challenge.

As I said, I dont mind people who say they enjoy the game and I am no critic of you. Its the people with stupid disrespectful comments I have no respect for and find it better to totally ignore them. Immature whatever age they are!

Anyway, I do think all the different shot types need to be there. But the parameters of the basic shot shouldnt be changed when I am onto the goal.

 

[scousejohno]

I think the shoot meter is just extra sensitive this year. If it were slower by just a tad it'd be fine. I also don't like the new outside-the-foot shot. Otherwise, I'm enjoying the challenge.

Quoted for truth!

 

[Grandmaster_Z]

But excuse me, first explain the games inconsistancy. At any other time anywhere else I tap the shoot button, I get the shoot I expect, except it might be feeble. Now I'm in the box I tap the button, correct body shape, not under extreme pressure. But it balloons over. This is not realistic. You might expect a real player to shoot at the keeper, scuff his foot on the ground etc, but to balloon over 90% of the time from a tapped button? The game just minimizes the advantage you have worked so hard to gain and you expect me to think its realistic? Now when your in the box its more complicated to get an accurate shot because you now have to think about button combinations and of course it makes it harder than Fifa07 to master and so you score less goals. This doesnt make it a better game, just makes it harder thats all because its inconsistent. If I want to put my foot through the ball it doesnt matter where I am on the pitch in real football, the ball doesnt do a harrier vertical take off and I can put my foot through the ball instinctively and uncomplicated and the ball keeps down unless I try to over power it.

I agree with that. when I play soccer with friends, yeah we kick the ball over the net when we try to kick hard, but it never launches straight up like in the game. its retarded. and yea when you tap it sometimes it still launches so high. it should just make the kick weaker when you tap it. I actually like how they made the shooting in fifa07 better

 

[Nomad]

If Konami is going for realism, they took a giant step backwards with the shooting. The angle looks so strange. I've NEVER seen the ball go that high, except in American football when the kick field goals, or rugby. It's not even arbitrary. It's like every player kicks the same. I wish they had a curve button or finese shot like in this years FIFA 07 (the only good feature).

Maybe it can be toned down with a patch or mod.

 

[som3a]

Frankly this game proved to be very disappointing from alot of different views.

I admit I've been defending the game alot even before getting to play it just because I though it'd be a PC version of WE10 which I've been playing on the PS2 since may 2006.

But hell no, this one is totally different, it's a really crap game. Actually it's so F***ing scripted that it reminds me of Fifa.

I don't know why Konami puts the great gameplay only for the Japanese WE and totally screw up the english PES. Is that's the Jap way of feeling their national superiority or what??

WE10 is a much much better game than PES6. It's so much more realistic, the gameplay is much more fluent, shooting system is much more developed, goalkeepers are better, and the list goes on and on.

WE10 gives me a much wider range of gameplay. every single match is totally unpredictable. You can get easy, difficult, and normal matches on the same difficulty level and it's not always because of the opposition teams' rankings. Sometimes I feel that when I play with a strong team against a weak team the AI gives that team a little "edge" resembling the moral challenge small teams usually have against big teams in real life, and it works the other way around as well, big teams sometimes get a bit relaxed when facing small teams which sometimes leads to shocking results that are the main source of fun in football.

But in PES6 it's just so FIFA. Level's 1,2, and 3 are for little kids where I can beat Brazil using Reading, levels 4 and 5 are so unrealistically tough in a way that takes all the fun out of the game even if you get to win matches. You'll just have to do it with a very "industrial" way that it feels so much boring. Most of the time I win my games on level 4 just by scoring 1 goal and then playing keep ball between the back four for the rest of the entire match. Now imagine playing for only 2 mins then spending the last 8 mins of the game tapping the pass button to move the ball from one defender to the other. This is sometimes the only way to win a game because the AI gives his teams supernatural powers that even increase when they fall behind.

My main dislikes about PES6 are the following:

1- The shooting system. Alot of people are talking about it and they're absolutely true. The shooting in PES6 is so ridiculous. Strikers literally "blow it wide when it was easier to score". This aspect is so f***ing frustrating. You build up your play patientely, you make a great effort to round off defenders and create an opening, you're in a great scoring position and you give the shooting button just the perfect touch and BANG the ball is sailing way over the cross bar. You feel like wanting toe smash your PC. It's also something that you can't improve. I know for sure that this is the right amount of power to score but it's up to the AI whether to allow me to score or not.

2- Goalkeepers are so stupid, and again that's someting you can't improve at all, unless Konami wants us to improve to reach the "perfect player" status meaning that the opposition should not get any shots on target during the whole game. Take my last game for example. Playing with Portugal against Ecuador. They had only 2 shots on target and they both went in, and they were not even "shots", they were "EDGE OF THE PENALTY AREA HEADERS!!!!" can u believe it???. How many times in real life did you see an edge of the box header hitting the back of the net...and were not even diving headers. As for me, I got 9 shots on target and scored only once. Nuno Gomes, Ronaldo, and Boa Morte were all wasting from all kinds of angles. I just ran out of solutions.

3- The aspect of "SPEED" seems to have no effect whatsoever on the game. Any AI player can keep up with any of your strikers regardless of the Speed and acceleration attributes, and it works the other way round too. Any AI striker can beat any of your defenders if the AI decided that it must. An AI player can even run through 3 or 4 of your defenders with no problems as if he was Maradona even if he was only an unknown togolese player. The same words apply for "Stamina". By the end of the match many of my players are literally drained with no stamina at all which affects their speed and their response alot making them almost unusable whereas it seems the AI players never suffer from such human weaknesses. They keep sprinting, tackling, shoving, dribbling from start to finish without any noticable differences.

Well I'm really sad and disappointed regarding this year's game. I hope Konami can release a patch to fix some errors and make the game more like WE10. If they didn't (and I'm sure they won't) I just hope that next year they could provide us with a much improved game to make us forget that sin of a game they've released this season.

Still WE8I and WE10 are the best football simulations I've ever experienced in my entire life and much better than any Fifa game ever released.

 

[orido01]

Excellent advice Elkjaer..... you can also try using this advice as well....

Positioning is also very important when coming into penalty area..... if you come in straight from the centre..... then using Elkjaer's way is the best way to score..... but if you come in diagonally from the left or right side of the penalty area (meaning if you run into the penalty area from the wings) then you should try aiming for the near post and not the far post.... the goalkeepers usually go str8 for the unmarked area (the far post)...... so even if you use very little power and aim for the near post 80% of the time you will score....

Just a tip: one of the best value for money strikers in the game is Luis Garcia from Liverpool.....

quick question. how do you aim for different parts of the goal?

 

[OB1]

quick question. how do you aim for different parts of the goal?

Press the shoot button and pray!