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[p] and [r] MACEDONIA vs THE NETHERLANDS

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$teauA

Superstar
YES YES YES YES YES YES :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: THANK YOU MACEDONIA

Updated Group A Standings:

Team MP W D L GF GA Pts
1) Finland 4 3 0 1 9 3 9
2) Romania 4 3 0 1 9 4 9
3) Macedonia FYR 3 1 1 1 6 4 4
4) Netherlands 2 1 1 0 4 2 4
5) Czech Republic 2 1 0 1 1 2 3
6) Andorra 2 0 0 2 1 8 0
7) Armenia 3 0 0 3 1 8 0

Although it would of been nice to get some points against the Czech's Macedonia somewhat fixed the problem. Tied for first after 4 games and we play Armenia next :rockman:
 
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djperthglory

Starting XI
well it is weird,

september 2002 - england 2-2 macedonia. macedonia led twice but were denied. this time it was macedonia 2-2 holland on home soil and holland were denied twice!!

this is without a doubt the best result for macedonia on home soil!!!

andorra in 4 days for macedonia and next month its the czech republic!!
 
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djperthglory

Starting XI
Originally posted by dannyeli
Oh boy ! :(

Bring Seedorf and Kluivert..... I cab't believe Holland tied against Macedonia :kader:
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are u trying to say my team cant play footbal and that they are sh*t?:kader:

why do ppl under-estimate the small teams even afte a eam like senegal succeeded in the 2002 world cup??? :(
 
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Vagegast

Banned for Life [He likes P. Diddy]
Damn, this is terrible. :|

I don't think that Macedonia played that great, they just played smart. They heavily defended the sides so that Kuyt and Castelen couldn't do sh*t. They played agressive and at times it looked like some of the players couldn't keep up with the tempo and pressure (Sneijder, Bouma). We couldn't find the free man and we misssed some individual actions that would've made the difference. If there's one person we missed tonight it was van der Meyde. I don't know why van Basten didn't select him. Castelen was crap today but I don't blame him. And Makaay reminded me why I'm not his biggest fan. He came in voor van Hooijdonk and was invisible. We love you to death, Roy but Oranje's not your thing. To be honest, he's pissing me off by scoring 2 times for Bayern every single game and underperforming for Oranje. One more problem: in the 2nd half, the midfield didn't connect and our defense was playing like a lazy bunch of teenagers. Whenever Macedonia would go on the attack the midfield wouldn't connect. I expect that of Seedorf but not of the likes of Seedorf or Sneijder.

Finland on Wednesday. Basically the same deal but a bit tougher and more individual quality. They've got 9 points out of 3 games. They won 3-1 today. Both Macedonia and Finland are just very annoying teams to play against. They're like bees. You know you're much stronger but they can sting you. When they sting you more than once, you're f*cked.

Youri Mulder said something like: There's no excuses. You can't play bad when you're Oranje.
 
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Mikey

Guest
I thought Lippi was wrong with some of his choices, but Van Basten amazes me.

How can Makaay not start? especially when Ruud is out??? why isnt VDM and Seedorf in the side, theyve been in great form this season, especially VDM. Why wasnt VDV starting?? Why was he starting 3 defensive midfielders against Macedonia (cocu, davids, van bommel) ?

His choices are the equivalent of Italy benching Totti in favour of Morfeo.

:D

EDIT: Vagegast, maybe Makaay doesnt repeat club for internationally cause coaches have never had faith in him. Maybe if he got some starts once and a while itd be different. Just found out Cocu played CB, but still.

and is it Kuyt or Kuijt? Ive seen both.
 
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Glorious

Starting XI
I think Macedonia can win, a winner late in the game to win 2-1. Hollan are very tough, Macedonia is also a tough team to beat. Romania struggled and won late in the game so i think Macedonia will do the same to the dutch.
 
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Hendrik

Team Captain
Makaay needs to get used to his players next to him. When he came to Bayern he didn't score in the first month at all.


He's invisible all the time, that's his game.
 
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Hendrik

Team Captain
Originally posted by Glorious_Fan
I think Macedonia can win, a winner late in the game to win 2-1. Hollan are very tough, Macedonia is also a tough team to beat. Romania struggled and won late in the game so i think Macedonia will do the same to the dutch.
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This game was yesterday dumbass.
 
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Glorious

Starting XI
just found out the result after my freaken news paper said it was TOMORROW!!! :S what is up with that! Anyway a good result, i am happy to walk away with a point (Y)
 
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$teauA

Superstar
Originally posted by Vagegast
Finland on Wednesday. Basically the same deal but a bit tougher and more individual quality. They've got 9 points out of 3 games. They won 3-1 today. Both Macedonia and Finland are just very annoying teams to play against. They're like bees. You know you're much stronger but they can sting you. When they sting you more than once, you're f*cked.
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Make that 9 points in 4 games, we beat them :read:
 
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Vagegast

Banned for Life [He likes P. Diddy]
Originally posted by Mikey
I thought Lippi was wrong with some of his choices, but Van Basten amazes me.

How can Makaay not start? especially when Ruud is out??? why isnt VDM and Seedorf in the side, theyve been in great form this season, especially VDM. Why wasnt VDV starting?? Why was he starting 3 defensive midfielders against Macedonia (cocu, davids, van bommel) ?

EDIT: Vagegast, maybe Makaay doesnt repeat club for internationally cause coaches have never had faith in him. Maybe if he got some starts once and a while itd be different. Just found out Cocu played CB, but still.
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Makaay isn't the typical Dutch striker. Makaay is a man of moments while van Basten used to be a player who was involved in the game for the full 90 minutes. Anyhow, he came in the 2nd half and he just didn't exist. You make a good point that he has to get used to playing internationally. When? It's not like we can experiment for the next 4 WC-qualifying matches. Ruud's back from his suspension, Kluivert is back. We also got Kuijt and van Hooydonk. All Makaay has to do is score. It wasn't that hard for him two weeks ago in Munchen.

I agree with you on VdM. He's been magical with Inter lately and he deserved to be picked despite his horrible EURO 2004 performance. Castelen was terrible and VdM should've taken his place.

Cocu played CB with De Jong. Davids and van Bommel aren't defensive midfield-players. Because our backs are very offensive, we play with 2 CBs and one defensive midfielder. And the 2nd half we played with only 3 defenders.
and is it Kuyt or Kuijt? Ive seen both.
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I think the "official" version is Kuijt. I don't think it matters; Cruyff has two different spellings too.
 
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