personal or team glory?

[dover]

ive started with dover as anyone who has read my posts will have realised..
in my first year, the board said bravely fight relegation..
each year since they've said that..
ive now moved up to.. stay away from relegation..
so i guess ive slightly improved..
im just starting my 5th season as manager.
ive preety much given up on my plan of taking dover from the conference league, to the top of the premier league. that doesnt seem so likely now.

im wondering when everyone else plays. do u strive for personal glory or team glory? i had my manager rating up to average (slipped back to poor now) 72nd amongst the english or europe or whatever it is managers was my highest i think. i assume from being in that position i may have been able to jump ship to a D3 - D1 team without a manager.. which would have been a big step up from dover. from there maybe i could have continued to improve my ranking or got into a premiership team. then possibly got myself into the top 10 or so managers in the world.
or is it better to stick with dover.. then by year 2050 MAYBE get out of the damn conference league and into D3! then maybe by year 4000 be in the premier league.. (can i die as a manager?)

anyway, seriously. my question is. take a lowly team to the top? or once uve got a rep. bugger off the lowly team and strive for personal glory?

my dover team is all very young, they are preety much all decent.. except for the midfielders. if i could have kept my midfielders tobias garcia and trond erik seathre along with frazer toms (who i still have) i could have been looking at promotion.. instead ive got peter hunt, promising youngster. chris thompson (dud) but some say he's got potential. scott oakes (overrated) adi hayes (decent) and frazer toms (preety good).. the defence is has ALOT of good players. no superstars. forwards are great. conference superstars. outside of conference though? should i stick with them? will things pick up?

 

[quackers]

I began with exactly the same desires. Its OK to carry on Alex Fergusons and Gerard Houlliers success and glory is easily bought for £80million but hows about building your own force in the British/European game from scratch!

In a very exciting and dramatic 6 seasons I found myself being promoted to the Premier Division and for another six have been pottering around mid table with a couple of UEFA Cups under my belt. My rating is world class. The teams however is not. You are still lumbered with a poor small stadium, no cash and a very low reputation and as soon as things look rough they have no quibbles but threaten you with the sack!!! They'll have no gratitude what so ever at your 12 very successful seasons!!

My advice to you is unless you can see a very sound future, you should take anything bigger you can lay your hands on. I was at Farnborough 18'000 all seater and £8million to spend at the start of every season. I'm noe Chelsea top dog, bigger stadium bigger reputation and £55'000'000 at the start of every season. Farnborough werent getting any bigger I have a new challenge now and I earned it by doing the hard work with Farnborough I didnt just jump into a multi million pound hot seat!

 

[Theresonly1CM]

Stuie, did Farnborough ever win the league for you?

 

[ian_james01]

ive just got into my 8th season with man u, ive recently applied for a crap conference team, im waiting for a reply, ive won everything with man u and its just gettin borin so im off to a very small club now lol hope i get the job, im rated at no.1 in the world

 

[quackers]

Never finished any higher than third with Farnborough unfortunately. Won the World Championship 3 times in a row but never the English one . For some peculiar reason towards the end of my spell at Town, we couldnt win a one ticket raffle so I knew my time was up. I went through twelve seasons with all the emotions of taking a conference side to the top in world football and it ain't all that. Kevin Keegan always quits when his teams get really good (Newcastle,Fulham,Man City will be next) and I think i'm very similar. Winning isnt the fun part, knowing that your building up a team to win is what drives me. As for people that start their career with Man Utd and then brag about winning everything and being No.1 in the world. Wheres the challenge??? You could still win everything by playing Man Utds up and coming youngsters. You get gate receipts of over £1.5mil every game and the safety net of a loaded chairman and £20million rated players!!! Its not hard to win everything with Utd. I hope your new career in the football slums goes well, I really do. But dont get upset coz you cant afford a signing on fee let alone a record transfer deal, just bow away and keep plugging see if you can get the small boys to the top GOOD LUCK FOLK

 

[charlton_fc]

Yeovil Town

5 seasons with yeovil town

conference champ
3rd div champ
2nd div champ
1st div champ
prem champ

etc etc

stick with the same team if ur good at champ man, move about if ur not

 

[Theresonly1CM]

not too hard was it Yeovil...

 

[quackers]

Agreeably it is possible in theory but in reality the only way you could acheive five successive championships with a conference side has a term, this term is cheating with a data editor! I've won countless honours with a countless number of teams and you can only do this be building a bit at a time. You could not tempt big enough players to get the success with yeovil and if they were interested you wouldnt have the cash! Might sound pessimistic or even jealous, but that feat is impossible!

 

[dover]

yeah.. when i started cm i thought..

.. how will it be most realistic? jump in and manage chealsea? hah! as if they'd let a bum off the street.. an australian who doesnt follow soccer, just got excited because of the world cup..
manage chealsea. as if they'd let me manage dover. but i still. i picked out a conference team, never even knew there was a conference league. lol. dover had a catchy name, so i jumped on in. i really had no idea how to play, this is my first experience with it. i was never planning to go conference champ, d3 champ, d2 champ and so on. in successive years. i was planning however getting some success. hopefully out of conference league within 3 years. thats not gunna happen. might take 10 years from the look of things. but ive worked out how to play and all.. so things are looking up.

something ive been meaning to ask. can u talk to the press? ive never had an experience with the press saying.. so and so is so good.. then me giving my veiw. oh. maybe once. when i was selling john elliot to crewe for a fairly large sum they said are the rumors true? i said yes. but is this the only way to interact with the media? or can u go to them and say something?

one other thing. a few of the players i didnt like. when i transferred them they said they had probs with my management style or something.. is that REAL bad? or just because i hated these certain players?

anyway, hopefully ill soon make it into D3 and so on. ill let ya know if it happens. gotto start up my 5th season now i think. (maybe i played 5 or so games already i think)

 

[Theresonly1CM]

I've only ever had one succesful conference campaign, with Forest Green.

 

[rumanu?]

i tryed to manage dover before (cm 00-01) but they were terrible! got relegated, sacked, got rid of that save game. never manage them again!! ( go to italy for LLM much better) Arezzo is the best there

 

[Duff]

Would you like some advices??

First of all, it is possible to make it from the conference to the premiership.

I was coaching yeovil and this was my results:
01/02 First in the conference
02/03 First in div.3 (lost only 2 games, won the fa-cup)
03/04 First in div.2 ( did not loose one leuegegame and won the fa-cup again, runners up in the uefa)
04/05 First in div.1 (won uefa and was qualified for worldchampionships for clubteams)

Not very realistic but this is true.

The first thing you have to do is to look over your trainingsquad. There is not very much quality coaches at this level but sometimes you can get playing-coaches.

A few tips: Alan Knill is a good assistant and a decent defender at conference level and his coaching ability is premierclass.

Gary Mcallister will be out of contract soon and will also be a quality assistant + a real class player for 1 or 2 seasons.

Look trough your squad and sell of players you don`t need.

Hopefully you now have a few pennys to spend on new players.

Steve Barnes is a left winger that is a real bargain and he is usefull all the way uo to the premirship.

Scott Huckerby will do the same job on your right wing.

Duane Darby is a good striker who scores goals for fun in the lower div.

Look thruogh all the free players at the start of the game and se who you can pick up, you can find some real bargains here.

Don´t sell your new starplayers cheap but sell them if someone makes a really good offer.

Allways keep an eye on players with expiring contracts and try to sign good players for free.

And last, the most important thing: Take your time, don´t hurry and you will find and get the players you need to concuer England and maybe Europe.

Please let me know if this works / Duff.