Gnidrologist
Youth Team
I suppose PC version deserves it's own thread, because ther are things that works differently than on consoles. Like graphics, online play and possibly, the gameplay too. We have to find out.
I can't provide a full list of pros and cons yet, have to play more, but here's some first impressions, things that drew my attention first.
I played international tournament as Brasil on 5*.
First of all - dribbling.
I can't understand people who say that dribbling is too easy compared to Pes3. WTF!!! Dribbling is soo much harder now. At least for me. I'm now happy if I manage to get past 1 defender. When I played Pes3 I could do thr Maradona stuff with like of Minanada and Castolo, now even good dribblers aren't that sharp anymore. CPU seem to cheat a bit. It's often that I thought I got past defender, but then he sticks out the leg and the ball starts bouncing and jumping. Needles to say, it usually jumps right at the legs of CPU player. :/
I like dribbling to be more difficult, because in Pes3/We7 int. it was nothing special to dribble past 4-5 opponents at one go, now it's a lot harder. Sometimes it even gets a bit annoying. I usually use R2 to push the ball to side and now I can't even make a basic dribble in an ordianry situation.
Shooting.
I like trajectory of the ball flying/rolling into the net. It's more natural now, no more baloon stuff. Overall shots are better now and shooting aniamtion is improved a lot. One thing concerns me though. It looks like Konami has made shooting completely manual now. In Pes3 when you pushed sqare button you could score even if you didn't run exactly towards net, but now it seems you have to position your shooter exactly towards the goalmouth. I've scored only one goal from outside the box till now(including quite a few hours playing demo). A lot of my shots from 20-25 meters are so bad, the ball goes so wide of the goal that it almost goes out over the sideline, not goalline.
Headers are a bit too hard also. Though I've scored 4 or 5 headers now, but players head over the bar just too often, even from point blank range and without any pressure.
The funny thing is that CPU experiences exactly the same problems. At least it's fear.
Very slow responses from players.
Have you noticed that it's even worse than in Pes3? Players are reacting unacceptably late after pushing the button. 1/2 times I lose possesion because player won't pass or do some move regardless my crazy button bashing. Doh
This is shows worst of all when you have a ball with your defender, opposite forwards have stolen away the ball and scored several times because of this. I HATE IT!!
CPU cheating.
This is obvious. When score is even the flow of the match is even too. Both sides can score, make mistakes and such. But when you score first CPU switches to it's turbo-super-mega-ultra-uubermensch mode. They start playing like gods, tremendous pressure, great runs, unstoppable dribbling. If you lead bu one goal and it's near the end of the match, preper to consede a goal. I've consided the equalizer in dying minutes 3 times in an int. tournament playing Brazil. Can you imagine, last minute equalizer in 3 matches in one tournament!!!
I think that CPU is lowering my and increasing he's own player's attributes in last minutes, because it seems odd when R.Carlos looses at everything, speed, body balance and so on in last minutes even against average forwards.
AI.
Forward's and midlefield's AI is increased a lot. No more stupid standing and watching how you struggle alone against 4 defenders. They make a lot of good runs and behavior is smart overall.
My team's defenders AI is worst than in Pes3 though. It seems that they are doing everything to make CPU score goals against me. Positioning is awfull. Every time I gain controll over defender, I have to drag him direction where he should be, because they are always at the wrong place even though I've set all the individual tactics right. I hate that lots of goals CPU scores against me are from one-on-one situations, only because the stupid defender's AI.
Graphics are fine except the pitch that is a pain in the eyes. I hope it's patchable, otherwise Konami has to release this game with warning loke, ''Danger, Pe4 can cause damage to your eyes''.
Referees.
Tremendously great, wonderfull, simply splendid. Especially advantage rule.
All for now. I want to hear feedback from other PC players too.
I can't provide a full list of pros and cons yet, have to play more, but here's some first impressions, things that drew my attention first.
I played international tournament as Brasil on 5*.
First of all - dribbling.
I can't understand people who say that dribbling is too easy compared to Pes3. WTF!!! Dribbling is soo much harder now. At least for me. I'm now happy if I manage to get past 1 defender. When I played Pes3 I could do thr Maradona stuff with like of Minanada and Castolo, now even good dribblers aren't that sharp anymore. CPU seem to cheat a bit. It's often that I thought I got past defender, but then he sticks out the leg and the ball starts bouncing and jumping. Needles to say, it usually jumps right at the legs of CPU player. :/
I like dribbling to be more difficult, because in Pes3/We7 int. it was nothing special to dribble past 4-5 opponents at one go, now it's a lot harder. Sometimes it even gets a bit annoying. I usually use R2 to push the ball to side and now I can't even make a basic dribble in an ordianry situation.
Shooting.
I like trajectory of the ball flying/rolling into the net. It's more natural now, no more baloon stuff. Overall shots are better now and shooting aniamtion is improved a lot. One thing concerns me though. It looks like Konami has made shooting completely manual now. In Pes3 when you pushed sqare button you could score even if you didn't run exactly towards net, but now it seems you have to position your shooter exactly towards the goalmouth. I've scored only one goal from outside the box till now(including quite a few hours playing demo). A lot of my shots from 20-25 meters are so bad, the ball goes so wide of the goal that it almost goes out over the sideline, not goalline.
Headers are a bit too hard also. Though I've scored 4 or 5 headers now, but players head over the bar just too often, even from point blank range and without any pressure.
The funny thing is that CPU experiences exactly the same problems. At least it's fear.
Very slow responses from players.
Have you noticed that it's even worse than in Pes3? Players are reacting unacceptably late after pushing the button. 1/2 times I lose possesion because player won't pass or do some move regardless my crazy button bashing. Doh
This is shows worst of all when you have a ball with your defender, opposite forwards have stolen away the ball and scored several times because of this. I HATE IT!!
CPU cheating.
This is obvious. When score is even the flow of the match is even too. Both sides can score, make mistakes and such. But when you score first CPU switches to it's turbo-super-mega-ultra-uubermensch mode. They start playing like gods, tremendous pressure, great runs, unstoppable dribbling. If you lead bu one goal and it's near the end of the match, preper to consede a goal. I've consided the equalizer in dying minutes 3 times in an int. tournament playing Brazil. Can you imagine, last minute equalizer in 3 matches in one tournament!!!
I think that CPU is lowering my and increasing he's own player's attributes in last minutes, because it seems odd when R.Carlos looses at everything, speed, body balance and so on in last minutes even against average forwards.
AI.
Forward's and midlefield's AI is increased a lot. No more stupid standing and watching how you struggle alone against 4 defenders. They make a lot of good runs and behavior is smart overall.
My team's defenders AI is worst than in Pes3 though. It seems that they are doing everything to make CPU score goals against me. Positioning is awfull. Every time I gain controll over defender, I have to drag him direction where he should be, because they are always at the wrong place even though I've set all the individual tactics right. I hate that lots of goals CPU scores against me are from one-on-one situations, only because the stupid defender's AI.
Graphics are fine except the pitch that is a pain in the eyes. I hope it's patchable, otherwise Konami has to release this game with warning loke, ''Danger, Pe4 can cause damage to your eyes''.
Referees.
Tremendously great, wonderfull, simply splendid. Especially advantage rule.
All for now. I want to hear feedback from other PC players too.
I have feeling dribbling is more natural and easier to beat even last defender (of course it depends on difficulty level, on 5 stars it's harded but I like dribbling now)
