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TristanAbbott7 said:In terms of ball physics, the game is perfect as can be except for the speed the thing travels, which for headers is super unrealistic at times and for shots, I don't think there's many players in the world who can make the ball travel accurately on shots from some of those distances consistenly but almost every player in PES5 can do it with the power bar not even half-way! In terms of weight and bounce, I doubt FIFA will ever, ever master ball physics as well as Konami unless they simply copycat it.
It makes you wonder if they deliberately made the game 1.5x faster to counter slowdowns. Remember the old questions we used to get with PES3/4 that if you can incorporate the double-speed option that works into the game, why the hell do we still have slowdowns. Well maybe this is the fix. 1.5x speed of PES4 so you don't notice the slowdowns so much. Even then, the ball still travels faster relatively to the speeded up players. It's like the players move 1.5x the speed of PES4 but the ball moves 2x the speed of PES4.
The default setting of FIFA is the same deal, too freaking fast but on the slower setting it's about the same speed or a little slower than WE9 which to me is realistic.
I agree with the comment of having to shoot or pass almost immediately because even against containment teams you don't have more than 1 second on the ball before somebody comes to make a tackle so in true terms, no team in the game actually plays containment even if the settings are such. They all play pressure. Not realistic for the style of some of the teams in real life where players will often get a good few seconds on the ball before passing, etc. but in PES5 it's rare you get more than a second before at least one player is coming in as if their team is 1-0 down with 30 seconds of the game left!
Guys, let's be realistic about PES5 and not make it to be the god of soccer gaming when it's not. There are still a lot of faults in the game and if we don't truly recognise them and make Konami aware of them, the series will never improve. That's what happened to FIFA for 5 years. The FIFA fanboys used to shoot you down or even ban you on the forums if any negative words about FIFA were spoken (even on Soccer Gaming) and as a result, the series never really evolved because the feedback to EA was constantly ass-kissing. We need to make sure Konami know when there are dissatisfied rumblings with their games and something is there which we don't like (even something minor like at throw-ins where the player keeps fake throwing the ball 2x a second like he's having a fit - they didn't have to introduce this!). I love Konami and I've loved the WE/PES series but I want the games to get better and better, not just with licenses, that's almost out of their control but we need to make sure when stuff isn't a move in the right direction, and few people will agree the super speed of PES5 is a more positive move compared to PES4, then we let them know it needs to change.
TristanAbbott7 said:Premiership players are ALWAYS quoted as saying they play PES? Really? Can you name more than 5 who have ever been quoted as saying that?
henry has said this loads of time and joe cole, cech and terry have reg comps round each others house with rest of chelsea team!
jose M said it was good team bondin and recomended pes to to others as a way of being a team!
RicFlair said:Wolf is FIFA out yet?
TristanAbbott7 said:In terms of ball physics, the game is perfect as can be except for the speed the thing travels, which for headers is super unrealistic at times and for shots, I don't think there's many players in the world who can make the ball travel accurately on shots from some of those distances consistenly but almost every player in PES5 can do it with the power bar not even half-way! In terms of weight and bounce, I doubt FIFA will ever, ever master ball physics as well as Konami unless they simply copycat it.
It makes you wonder if they deliberately made the game 1.5x faster to counter slowdowns. Remember the old questions we used to get with PES3/4 that if you can incorporate the double-speed option that works into the game, why the hell do we still have slowdowns. Well maybe this is the fix. 1.5x speed of PES4 so you don't notice the slowdowns so much. Even then, the ball still travels faster relatively to the speeded up players. It's like the players move 1.5x the speed of PES4 but the ball moves 2x the speed of PES4.
The default setting of FIFA is the same deal, too freaking fast but on the slower setting it's about the same speed or a little slower than WE9 which to me is realistic.
I agree with the comment of having to shoot or pass almost immediately because even against containment teams you don't have more than 1 second on the ball before somebody comes to make a tackle so in true terms, no team in the game actually plays containment even if the settings are such. They all play pressure. Not realistic for the style of some of the teams in real life where players will often get a good few seconds on the ball before passing, etc. but in PES5 it's rare you get more than a second before at least one player is coming in as if their team is 1-0 down with 30 seconds of the game left!
Guys, let's be realistic about PES5 and not make it to be the god of soccer gaming when it's not. There are still a lot of faults in the game and if we don't truly recognise them and make Konami aware of them, the series will never improve. That's what happened to FIFA for 5 years. The FIFA fanboys used to shoot you down or even ban you on the forums if any negative words about FIFA were spoken (even on Soccer Gaming) and as a result, the series never really evolved because the feedback to EA was constantly ass-kissing. We need to make sure Konami know when there are dissatisfied rumblings with their games and something is there which we don't like (even something minor like at throw-ins where the player keeps fake throwing the ball 2x a second like he's having a fit - they didn't have to introduce this!). I love Konami and I've loved the WE/PES series but I want the games to get better and better, not just with licenses, that's almost out of their control but we need to make sure when stuff isn't a move in the right direction, and few people will agree the super speed of PES5 is a more positive move compared to PES4, then we let them know it needs to change.
The entire Chelsea squad plays the game, John Terry has been quoted saying that, also mentioning they have tournaments amongst everyone and that Glen Johnson is their best player.TristanAbbott7 said:Premiership players are ALWAYS quoted as saying they play PES? Really? Can you name more than 5 who have ever been quoted as saying that?
Rob said:The entire Chelsea squad plays the game, John Terry has been quoted saying that, also mentioning they have tournaments amongst everyone and that Glen Johnson is their best player.
RicFlair said:Wolf is FIFA out yet?
TristanAbbott7 said:The NTSC option is still there which is cool.
Thanks for the review Wolf.TristanAbbott7 said:Not for the PS2, only the PAL version but my mod chip runs it as it auto-converts PAL to NTSC. The NTSC version comes out Oct 4th/5th.
The goalkeepers do DO 1 handed saves, twice now I have seen this.TristanAbbott7 said:- Goalkeepers will still only use two hands to save or just watch the ball fly in rather than make a one-handed save.