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Pope John Paul II Dead

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PhiLLer

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As some already know, I don't think highly of the Pope, or anything concerning that religion so I don't really give a **** about the Pope. But as a human being I wish that he rests in peace. I'm sure he was a good man to whoever believes in this and it must be loss.
 

italianstyle87

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R.I.P.

Conservative, but none the less a great man.
His peaceful ideals are important to remember.

 

Lean

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RIP. Another great man going to a better place. Cant believe some ****s even made a thread to predict the time of his death.
 

Kibe Kru

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R.I.P

heh... felt really weird today as I heard the song people sung to him when he came to Brazil in 1980... almost got to tears...

A benção, João de Deus
Nosso povo te abraça
Tu vens em missão de paz
Sê bem-vindo e abençoa esse povo que te ama

in English it'd be like

The blessing John of God
Our people hug you
You've come in a mission of peace
Be welcome and bless this people who love you

he got 150000 singing it in Maracana stadium, and a mass celebrated by him had 1.5M people in Sao Paulo in 1997

once again, RIP
 

zul-aid

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mhflierman said:
RIP.

I'm hoping for a more progressive pope. It's a known fact that John Paul II was a real conservative, he made the Vatican even more conservative than when he took over.

What was "non-conservative" in one way was his last decision. He choose not to go to a hospital after what happened in USA over the last month with Terri Shaivo - he wanted to go when it was his time, not have someone turn off the life support system.

Now being very liberal-left wing myself, I looked up to John-Paul, from when he stood up against communism to when he went to the UK and told Blair and Bush they were wrong (kind of telling them "dont use god as an excuse for the war, as you wont have his blessing - you must have the pope's blessing before you can say your doing gods work in war).

I cant really see what the pope did wrong? - he waited till the apartheid was over before he visited South Africa - he condemed all wars and oppressive regimes, and even visited those countrys (yes he did visit Cuba, and told Fidel Castro to remember religion and the people).

Now im a 'Irish' catholic, but not a practising one, I personally dont believe in god and when I went to the Vatican City in Christmas 2003, I relised how great this pope was in comparision to previous pope's who stole and plunded other cultures like theives, if you visit - I cannot remember the name of the room but its in St Peter's Catherdial where all the cups and chalesse are you well see about enough gold and jewels and jems to probably buy most of Europe if not most of the world. - the whole pledge of sharing during christmas time was lost on me during that trip after seeing that.

Now he did revolutionise catholism by the way priests teach, pray and be more "open" in their explainations on the bible, and if memory serves me he also made the priests actually face the congration during mass, previously they had their back to the congration and prayed to the tabinacle - only a very few churches in the world still uses the old method, I cannot remember the name of the decision to change this, something like Cardinal College No. 2 or something it was the second major change in the way mass is conducted since Christ's death.

He revoultioned not only changes in Church but also in Politics. While people would be against his stance on marriage, homosexuality, abortion and the right for life, remember its the teachings of catholism. Personally im against all four, I believe people have a choice when it comes to all four, does that make me less catholic or christian? no way, but if the pope did it, he would be against the majority and would might as well through away the bible.

The peadophile priests was also a touchy subject, know I can understand why he seperated himself of this subject because it was against the fabric of catholism and the congration believed he should have done something to stop it - but remember this is a civil matter, not the churches and dont convict someone until they are provern guilty, previously we have had a priest convicted of being a peadophile by a former student at his school, they found he wasnt gulity when that same student said some of his other teachers were peadophiles as well.

The people did alot, not just for Catholics and Christians but also political and also repairing the damages between Catholics and Jews during WW2.

But above all - he forgave the person who tried to kill him in 1981 imo he will be a saint.

The next pope imo should be an african pope.
 

SuRFy

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R.I.P. He was a great man, came to australia a few times sadly i didn't even have a chance seeing him i wish i'd did though. I think there are lying out his body for 2 days, so people can see him.

Well i hope the next Pope will be the one that's from Nigeria but i'm pretty sure an Italian will get it again. :(
 

QuikZilver

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People need to say R.I.P and walk away no need to ad your ranting cents

R.I.P. John Paul II

say "Im Rick James, Bitch" to Jesus for me
 

italianstyle87

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SuRFy said:
Well i hope the next Pope will be the one that's from Nigeria but i'm pretty sure an Italian will get it again. :(

the last italian pope modernised the catholic church with the vatican councel and was very well respected and loved

i think the next pope should be angelo scola, he has very liberal catholic views
 

SuRFy

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Well it's very hipocritical, saying that women and men have equal rights and women can't be priests. :|
 

henry#14

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Not really because saying that men and women have equal rights just means that women aren't lower in the social heirachy. The whole thing of women not being allowed to become priests is a whole other matter.
 
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