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Proble with Turfs. Don't look smooth. Looks noisy. Help Please!

Chuny

Chuny

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Can anybody tell me how come my turfs don't look smooth? They look noisy and in some areas it looks like there's not even grass.

I've seen Fidel's videos for Hybrid Gameplay, and many other people's screenshots and their turfs always look smooth and in a lively strong green.

I've tried many different Turf patches and I still can't get it looking right.

I'm using ENB series and Ulta High Lod, by the way.

Thank you for any help you might provide.

Take a look at how my turfs usually look (doesn't matter which stadium, weather, etc):

 
regularcat

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stop using enb or reduce the bloom value.

& #7 on aston villa looks like he has a missing texture for his hair.
 
Chuny

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Yeah, don't know how to fix the #7 thing.

These are my Bloom settings:

Code: 
[BLOOM]
BloomPowerDay=6
BloomFadeTime=1800
BloomConstantDay=1
BloomQuality=1
BloomScreenLevelDay=20
BloomCurveDay=2
BloomPowerNight=2
BloomConstantNight=2
BloomCurveNight=-2
BloomScreenLevelNight=15
BloomAdaptationScreenLevel=70
BloomAdaptationMultiplier=20
BloomAllowOversaturation=50
BloomMaxLimit=30



P.S: I'd appreciate it if a mod could move this Thread on to the Support sub-forum. Thanks.
 
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Oso_CR7

Club Supporter
I think that u are playing with a turf patch + missed up monitor settings, u may check if there's a turf patch installed on ur game
maybe too much sharpness settings u are using? try putting ur monitor settings on standard or default and see if there's difference.
If not maybe re-install the game and make sure that there'snt a turf patch installed.
 
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arkapd

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What is the relation with monitor settings and this problem? He is showing a picture that looks grainy on everyone's monitor LOL. Yes any other turf patch might be causing the problem
 
Chuny

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Oso_CR7;3084770 said:
I think that u are playing with a turf patch + missed up monitor settings, u may check if there's a turf patch installed on ur game
maybe too much sharpness settings u are using? try putting ur monitor settings on standard or default and see if there's difference.
If not maybe re-install the game and make sure that there'snt a turf patch installed.
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arkapd;3084773 said:
What is the relation with monitor settings and this problem? He is showing a picture that looks grainy on everyone's monitor LOL. Yes any other turf patch might be causing the problem
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You're right. If it was MY monitor's settings, then I guess you guys shouldn't be seeing the problem I showed on that image.

As I've mentioned in my first post, I've tried several different Turf patches (found on these very same boards), some of them looked really smooth and with a nice color on the download screenshots but then they don't look like that on my game.

There must be some setting I have on my LOD, or ENB, or something else that is screwing up the turfs.
By the way, I've also tried different ENB files posted by different people on these boards, and some made my game nicer, some other made it look more as the normal one, but none of them fixed this grainy turfs issue).

My Video Card is a ATI RADEON 6870 HD, in case you're wondering.
 
Chuny

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This is how it looks WITHOUT any ENB at all!
This one is at the Emirates stadium.




See? You can still see it doesn't look smooth. Of course ENB exagerates it a lot more.
I don't think it should look that way. I've seen many many pictures and videos from other people and it looks much more real.

By the way, just in case, this is what my 'Settings.lua' file looks like:

Code: 
local InitializeSettings = function()
	local as = gSportsRNA
	local settingTable = as:GetTable("Settings")

	-- Force LevelOfDetail - 'high', 'medium', 'low', 'superlow'
	local levelOfDetail = as:GetString(settingTable, "LevelOfDetail") 
	if (levelOfDetail == "") then
		levelOfDetail = "high"
		as:SetString(settingTable, "LevelOfDetail", levelOfDetail)
	end

--	levelOfDetail = "medium"

	-- Set up defaults (high detail)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "DropMipRX3_MipsToDrop", 0)			-- number of mips to drop from RX3 textures
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "DropMipRX3_MinTexDimension", 8192)	-- minimum size (here we will ignore the number of mips to drop)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "FlatShadow_ScaleReduction", 0)		-- flat shadow dimensions 			(0 is normal, 1 is half, 2 is quarter, 3 is an eigth)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "FlatShadow_MaxLights", 4)			-- max number of lights to allow
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "Jumbotron_ScaleReduction", 0)		-- jumbotron render scale reduction 
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "SelfShadow", 1)		
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "SelfShadow_ScaleReduction", 0)		-- selfshadow render scale reduction (0 normal, 1 half, 2 quartered)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_RainDrops", 1)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_AutoExp", 1)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_Bloom", 1)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_DOF", 1)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_Rectilinear", 1)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_Vignette", 1)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_ColorCube", 1)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_ColorCubeDepth", 1)

	as:SetInt(settingTable, "Grass", 1)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "Cloth", 1)
	as:SetFloat(settingTable, "PlayerLodPercentageMultiplier", 100.0)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PlayerLodMinimum", 0)

	-- Override..
   	if (levelOfDetail == "medium") then

		as:SetInt(settingTable, "FlatShadow_ScaleReduction", 1)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "FlatShadow_MaxLights", 4)	   
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "Jumbotron_ScaleReduction", 1) 
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "Grass", 1)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "SelfShadow_ScaleReduction", 1)
		as:SetFloat(settingTable, "PlayerLodPercentageMultiplier", 100.0)

	elseif (levelOfDetail == "low" or levelOfDetail == "superlow") then
		-- Downsize Render to texture sizes and detail
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "DropMipRX3_MinTexDimension", 512)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "DropMipRX3_MipsToDrop", 3)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "FlatShadow_ScaleReduction", 1)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "FlatShadow_MaxLights", 1) 
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "Jumbotron_ScaleReduction", 1) 
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "SelfShadow", 0)	

		-- Disable grass and cloth
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "Grass", 1)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "Cloth", 1)

		-- disable pretty much all PostFX
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_RainDrops", 1)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_AutoExp", 1)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_Bloom", 1)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_DOF", 1)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_Rectilinear", 1)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_Vignette", 1)	
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_ColorCube", 1)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_ColorCubeDepth", 1)
	
		as:SetFloat(settingTable, "PlayerLodPercentageMultiplier", 100.00)
	end
	
	if (levelOfDetail == "superlow") then
		-- any extra tweaks here..
	end
end
InitializeSettings()
InitializeSettings = nil


Hope somebody can help me out.
 
Chuny

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regularcat;3085196 said:
try lowering the bloomfadetime to 500.
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I will, but have you seen that last image I posted?. That's without no ENB at all, and still looks bad! So why would I change the bloomfadetime value when it's not even an ENB problem to start with? :-(
 
regularcat

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::..Federico Debla..::;3085223 said:
I will, but have you seen that last image I posted?. That's without no ENB at all, and still looks bad! So why would I change the bloomfadetime value when it's not even an ENB problem to start with? :-(
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yea i have just seen it.

whos grass patch are you using ?
did you install it correctly ?
 
Chuny

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I'm using "Nai" turf pack (which came with 8 different options: Green, Greener, Light, Lighter, etc, etc). You can find it here: http://www.soccergaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164195&highlight=turfs&page=10

This is an example of how it looks for him (Old Trafford's Stadium Turf).




But I've also tried Onsche's (http://www.soccergaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166394&highlight=turfs) before and it looked bad too.

I've installed it right, I guess. I've copied all the files to \Program Files\EA Sports\FIFA 11\Game\data\sceneassets\pitch\ and then Regenerated. That's the procedure, right?.
 
regularcat

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::..Federico Debla..::;3085241 said:
I've installed it right, I guess. I've copied all the files to \Program Files\EA Sports\FIFA 11\Game\data\sceneassets\pitch\ and then Regenerated. That's the procedure, right?.
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yea thats hows its done, im guessing its your gfx settings then, or your settings in the fifaconfig app.
 
Chuny

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Well, I don't see anything strange with my settings.
Have a look yourself.

FIFA SETUP CONFIGURATION:



ATI XFX RADEON 6780 HD CONFIG PART 1:



ATI XFX RADEON 6780 HD CONFIG PART 2:



Let me know if you see anything that could be causing the problem.
Although I'm pretty sure it's something else.
 
bulkan

bulkan

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Have you tried to default settings of catalyst?
Is there any problems like that on another games?

FIFA 11 has supports only 4X AA.
As i can see you were set more than 4X.
You have to allow to use applications settings of AA and AF.

Then you have to chance your AA Effect type (you were selected Edge-Detect, you have to select default setting on there)

Now, try it like my told (defauls settings) before.
 
Chuny

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OK, I followed your advice (set all the settings from Catalyst Control Panel, to default) and this is the result:



As you can see, it looks a little (tiny, tini) bit better. But it still looks a bit grainy/noisy.
It still doesn't look as smooth as this, for example:


That's Fidel's Video from the lastest Hybrid Gameplay patch.

Do you see? Pitch looks great.
And that's just an example, I've seen many other people's screenshots, or videos, and none of them has the turf looking like I do.
 
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XandeAlves2000

Youth Team
Pal, use the EA´s generic grass, the one that comes after the game installed. Maybe this may solve your "problem".

Att,
XandeAlves2000
 
bulkan

bulkan

Senior Squad
Which do you use turf patch?
and i ask again: is there any problems like that on another games?

have you tried to re-install the game?
have you tried to re-install the graphics driver? (catalyst)
 
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