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Problem With Commentary Names

Bubble Gum

Youth Team
Hello people! Recently I've noticed that some created players with commentary names are not voiced but in some situations (f.e. penatly shootout) commentators call them by name. Maybe someone knows what's the problem? Thanks for answer.
 

bangus

Starting XI
There are two commentary tables in the db. You can check them to see which last names are called, and to assign any unused names which have an ID in the table (Beckenbauer, Ang etc.). Past that, there's nothing that can be done to fix the inconsistent name commentary, nothing that I'm aware of anyway.
 

Bubble Gum

Youth Team
The fact is that created player (Thomas Hitzlsperger in my case) exists in commentary table, but during the game or goalscoring commentators don't call him. I don't think that commentaries from FIFA 13 are different than in FIFA 12, so it's quite... interesting. Maybe someone has created this player and have the same problem or on the contrary don't have any problems?
 

bangus

Starting XI
Bubble Gum;3358768 said:
The fact is that created player (Thomas Hitzlsperger in my case) exists in commentary table, but during the game or goalscoring commentators don't call him. I don't think that commentaries from FIFA 13 are different than in FIFA 12, so it's quite... interesting. Maybe someone has created this player and have the same problem or on the contrary don't have any problems?
I had the change the kit name of one player from C. Smith to Smith to have his name called. Could be the problem is something like that.
 

bangus

Starting XI
Tested Hitzlsperger; not working like you said. Might need to change his name and/or kit name to T. Hitzlsperger or Thomas Hitzlsperger in order for the commentary to kick in, IDK. Be aware as well that Tyler and Tyldesley don't each say the same names.
 

Bubble Gum

Youth Team
I've tested both commentators with the same result.

In commentarynames he is present (Hitzlsperger) under his ID, in playernames he also exsits as Hitzslperger. So I don't know what kind of problem it is. Maybe it's just a bug from EA. Anyway thanks for help.
 

Bubble Gum

Youth Team
Not sure, but maybe we have to link his surname with correct commentaryid in playernames table, but I don't have DB from FIFA 12. I think that his commentaryid must be between 923599 and 923601. But the question is why other players don't have such problems...
 

bangus

Starting XI
Just noticed there's no Hitzlsperger listed in the playernames table, meaning there's no commentary ID linked with his name. I just added him to the table and will test to see if that resolves the issue.

EDIT: Didn't work, looks like they may have removed the generic Hitzlsperger commentary. The reason you hear his name on PKs is because star players have additional player-specific commentary, and they must have left that commentary in the game for Hitzlsperger. Example: I renamed a player on my team "Beckham." Martin Tyler never calls him "David Beckham", only the generic last name commentary is ever used: "It's Beckham now"; "Beckham on the ball; "And now it's Beckham".

All first-name David Beckham-specific commentary is no doubt linked to David Beckham's player-specific ID. So the last thing to maybe try, is assign Hitzlsperger his FIFA 12 player ID, and see if that activates the commentary for him.
 

Bubble Gum

Youth Team
So what is the result? If it doesn't work, I have no idea what to do. Everything seems to be OK.

bangus;3359134 said:
...assign Hitzlsperger his FIFA 12 player ID

Don't understand this. I've created him with original ID (51264) if you means this. So it doesn't work too. If you are right and some players have different commentaries for the game and PKs, his commentaryname just have been deleted by the EA. They don't like him, because in the last versions he was the only ingame player with hidden face :).
 

bangus

Starting XI
Bubble Gum;3359181 said:
Don't understand this. I've created him with original ID (51264) if you means this.
He has another ID# from FIFA 12: 7528. That could be the commentary ID that needs to be assigned to his player/name ID, IDK.
Anyway, I'm burnt out from trying things at this point, so good luck! (Y)
 

Bubble Gum

Youth Team
Yes, I've managed to fix it! I've assigned 923600 commenaryid for him and now every commentator calls him by surname! Also he is called as Thomas Hitzlsperger during the PK! The only question is that why did it happen? Anyway the problem now is fixed. Thanks for help mate!
 

bangus

Starting XI
Bubble Gum;3359221 said:
Yes, I've managed to fix it! I've assigned 923600 commenaryid for him and now every commentator calls him by surname!
Great stuff. Question: where did you come up with the idea to use that particular ID?
 

bangus

Starting XI
Bubble Gum;3359076 said:
In commentarynames he is present (Hitzlsperger) under his ID, in playernames he also exsits as Hitzslperger.
Here's a weird thing: I just checked again, and there is no Hitzlsperger listed in my playernames table, only in the commentarynames table. That's what I was saying in a previous post, but I missed reading this comment by you before. All very strange.
 

Bubble Gum

Youth Team
Really I don't know :). I have never faced with such kind of problem and I never looked into that tables. I've sorted commentarynameid's and found that there are some "gaps" (missing players). I've tried to assign 923599 ID, but after that commentators call him as Hiltsber or someone else, don't remember. And 923600 is assigned to Hitzlsperger. Also I thought that venezuelan player Miguel Mea Vitale should be called, but there is no gap in the table, so he hasn't commentaryname.
 

bangus

Starting XI
Bubble Gum;3359372 said:
Really I don't know :). I have never faced with such kind of problem and I never looked into that tables. I've sorted commentarynameid's and found that there are some "gaps" (mising players). I've tried to assign 923599 ID, but after that commentators call him as Hiltsber or someone else, don't remember. And 923600 is assigned to Hitzlsperger. Also I thought that venezuelan player Miguel Mea Vitale should be called, but there is no gap in the table, so he hasn't commentaryname.
Okay, but where did you see ID 923600, and where did you get the idea to try that exact ID? There are 1,000,000 IDs you could have chosen, why did you choose to try that one? Are you using a new or updated db or something, because my db doesn't have him listed in the playernames table. He's not there.
 

Bubble Gum

Youth Team
Look, everything is very simple. First I've sorted playernames table by commentaryid. As I think, commentaryid 900000 means that player is not commented. Now we are going to the bottom side of the table and search surnames starting from HI-. There we have:

923573 Hiariej
923574 Hibbert
923580 Hierro Ruiz
923581 Higdon
923582 Higginbotham
923583 Higgs
923584 Higuaín
923587 Hildebrand
923590 Hills
923592 Hilton da Silva
923596 Hird
923598 Hirschfeld
923602 Hlinka


You can see the gap between 923598 and 923602. I thought that Hitzlsperger have to be after Hirschfeld, so the probable commentaryid's for him are 923599, 923600 and 923601. After that I've edited existing assign for Hitzlsperger (in my case it was 917504 - one for all created players). I've tried 923599 and 923600 and the last one was correct. That's all. The only question is why other players (I've created Alex de Souza for Coritiba and Thimotee Atouba for Las Palmas) don't have such problems and will some other players have the same difficulty. I've noticed that problem just because I remember that Hitzlsperger had commentaryname in previous versions but of course I don't remember every player with commentary name.

So asking your question - I've never seen this ID, just use a little brain to cope with this problem.

And I don't know why didn't he apper in your DB. Yes, as I stated in my thread about squad updates, I've managed to export changest from the squad update to the main DB. Now I have updated rosters as original DB.

Also there is another interesting thing. I've created some more players, but deleted them soon. Now I have empty assigns into the playernames table (just commentaryID and nameID without name).

I think it's not easy to explain everything on fingers, so here is my DB. You can download it and see everything personally. http://depositfiles.com/files/4xpkaakij
 

bangus

Starting XI
Bubble Gum;3359402 said:
You can see the gap between 923598 and 923602. I thought that Hitzlsperger have to be after Hirschfeld...
Yes, that's what I was asking, how you came to choose that particular ID out of so many. Thanks.
 

bangus

Starting XI
Bubble Gum;3359402 said:
And I don't know why didn't he apper in your DB. Yes, as I stated in my thread about squad updates, I've managed to export changest from the squad update to the main DB.
So that's the answer, you're using a modified db. Thanks.
 

Bubble Gum

Youth Team
Unfortunately I'v noticed that problem again. I don't know the reasons of it, but some created players work well while others lost their commentarynames. It's a pity.
 


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