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Real Madrid Thread [2007-2008]

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Socrates

Starting XI
KingPaulV;2468355 said:
For you to come here and categorize somebody as an idiot for having a different opinion (and we all do you are in a Real Madrid thread remember?) that makes you an idiot. The fact of the matter is that while Barca did play the best football in Europe for those years, you no longer do. The fact is that we won La Liga last year because we wanted it more. Luck has to be sough after, luck doesnt just arrive, good teams create their own luck, resillient teams find way to win. I would dare you to go up to any of those players that played in our squad last year after the break and tell them they didnt earn their championship...they earned it alright; they did what they had to do to win, and get the results, Barca didnt, that is your fault (Barca the teams and players) not ours.

There is an old sports adage that says: "Good teams find ways to win; bad teams find ways to lose" and that cannot be more true of us. Have we been fortunate? absolutely, but have we generated our own "luck" in many occasions? we sure have; You barca types only know how to find ways to critizice us and how we play, yet you are still sitting 7 points behind for your own doing.

If we get knocked out of Copa del Rey I actually wont mind, I think its a distraction to be honest, but whatever, I would let you guys win 20 Copas over us having 10 Champions Leagues, that is the one competition that would dissapoint me to get knocked out of prior to the Semis at least.

As long as our team mentality remains the same, as long as we display the same fight; the same impetus, and desire to WIN; our "luck" will not run out, and we will be in Las Cibeles by the end of the year, Hopefully celebratin un Doblete!

Thanks for that Paul, says me from writing out a long ass post like that.

On to the CDR which as you said it not really a big deal... I would not mind it if we were to go out. I just hope that no first team player gets injured, especially Gago because we don't have another DM if he gets hurt to play agianst our rival were if we do manage to get a win I think IMO that we will than have one hand on the trophy.
 

KingPaulV

Starting XI
Arnau;2468431 said:
shut up idiots, roma will beat mandril :S:S madrid luck just work in spain for now

Arnau youre a funny kid, I liked all those post you made after we handed you guys your behinds in Camp Nou last year....nice posts! :S

But as far as our "Luck" running out outside of Spain, I digress, For reference, look at all of our Champions league matches, even the one we lost in Bremen we could have at least tied and that was after playing our poorest defensive match....we were in every game all the time....

You know if we win la Liga and Champions I am going to make a big headline in here titled simply

" SUERTE!"

I am dumbfounded that there are some of you here who really think this is alll the result of good luck and not the result of team mentality, attitude, desire, no-quit attitude....So in that same sense we can say then that Germany have been extremely "Lucky" in lifting all three of their world cups.....or better yet, lets look at our last world Champions, the Italians.....lucky right? their never say die attitude had nothing to do with it right?.......


yeah....

anyway, the only game we have truly been out of this year was against Sevilla both times we played there this year; that stadium has a very negative effect on some of our players and its contagious to the rest..even against Espanyol who clearly outplayed us we had a chance to at least tie....
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
solaimaa;2468182 said:
In 2005 and 2006, we were champions because we earned it, we destroyed everyone that we came across, barring of course a couple tricky matches here and there. We were playing the best football in Europe, and if you're going to deny that, then you're an idiot.

Yes, you won the title last year, but you didn't earn it, we threw it away. If you're going to deny that, you're an indiot.

At the Camp Nou two weeks ago, you were the better team and you deserved to win. If I deny that, then I will be an idiot. However, you cannot say that you haven't been massively lucky on countless occaisons over the last 12 months. I would love to see a stat that shows how many games you have scored and won games in the last 15 minutes after being second best throughout.

It's ok, your luck will run out sooner or later, and we'll be waiting when it does!

Hey, the reason why you didn't win la liga last year is because we beat you and drew against you, period! Those 2 games were in your hands and you failed! And this year we dominated you in your pigsty so don't come talking about luck, bollocks! You sir are a loser with an inferiority complex, nothing more. Now go on cry to mama.
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
solaimaa;2468182 said:
In 2005 and 2006, we were champions because we earned it, we destroyed everyone that we came across, barring of course a couple tricky matches here and there. We were playing the best football in Europe, and if you're going to deny that, then you're an idiot.

Yes, you won the title last year, but you didn't earn it, we threw it away
. If you're going to deny that, you're an indiot.

At the Camp Nou two weeks ago, you were the better team and you deserved to win. If I deny that, then I will be an idiot. However, you cannot say that you haven't been massively lucky on countless occaisons over the last 12 months. I would love to see a stat that shows how many games you have scored and won games in the last 15 minutes after being second best throughout.

It's ok, your luck will run out sooner or later, and we'll be waiting when it does!
Oh, forgot about this line! You didn't throw it away, it wasn't even yours to begin with. We almost gave it away by allowing Messi to tie at the pigsty...how about that view? If you were good enough and deserved it, you would have won it. Remember, Barca will always be second historically (fact based on wins, cups, etc.) and that's what hurts. You want to be Spains #1, but you aren't! And probably never will be. Instead of being happy with what you have you want to make other people as miserable as you. Like they say, misery loves company.
 

solaimaa

Reserve Team
KingPaulV;2468355 said:
As long as our team mentality remains the same, as long as we display the same fight; the same impetus, and desire to WIN; our "luck" will not run out, and we will be in Las Cibeles by the end of the year, Hopefully celebratin un Doblete!


Please remind me where in the last three games you have shown the right "mentality" "fight" "impetus" and "desire to win". i have seen none of that, and if u have, damn, you must have been watching some other game.

face it, last 2 league games were won because of luck and nothing else, and there was none of the "mentality, fight, blah blah blah" against mallorca either.

if you think your team is playing well, and you guys are happy, hey who am i to complain? if this is the level that you fans like to see, then that's great, but setting our standards a little low aren't we? or have you just been success starved for so long that even a crappy lucky win aganist teh BOTTOM CLUB where goals come from a dubious penalty in the last 15 min, that even games like that, you are able to find "fight, mentality" blah blah blah. hey, if it makes you happy, it makes me happy.

like I said, keep playing like this, and sooner or later your luck will run out.
 

solaimaa

Reserve Team
OrgulloVikingo;2468593 said:
Instead of being happy with what you have you want to make other people as miserable as you. Like they say, misery loves company.

I'm certainly not miserable. Who does everyone say is favorites to win CL? Madrid? Hmmm never heard that. Thats right, Barca are favorites. Who is playing better football? Madrid? Ohhh think not! You might be getting results right now, but at the level you're playing at, you'll start dropping points soon. And if you don't, and you win the league, good for you, I will come on here and congratulate you. But you will know deep down that even if you do, nobody NOBODY will be saying you are the best in THE WORLD, or even in europe, like our team was only 2 years ago. You came to the camp nou this year and BEAT us, we went to the bernabeu then and HUMILATED you. So yes, you people should know all about being miserable, since you've been it for so long! Enjoy your "good football" on display each week, I hope it's making you happy!

Here's a little clip you might enjoy as well:

 

justhammy

Senior Squad
Guys, dont freakin talk about luck. Just dont. Luck doesnt have anything to do with it. We are unbeaten in the Bernabeu for how long?! I mean, luck can go on for some matches, but not freakin 20/30 matches. Last year, we won almost EVERY game after the first 2 games of the new year. That cant be LUCK. Oh and please, dont say you guys threw it away. You guys s*cked last year. So if I'm gonna follow your logic, then we have throw the title away in the past 3/4 years? You want to know who threw a title away?! Thats us, in (correct me if im mistaken) 2002/2003. With that Portugese guy, Quieroz. We had a 11/12 point advantage in freakin February/March and we then lost everything. Thats throwing away a title. Oh and also, returning to last year. Sevilla was also a leader. They were also number 1 for some time. They played the best football. So did they throw it away too?! You cant throw away something that you dont have! Real earned the title completely! They worked hard, played for the shirt and most importantly...they NEVER gave up!

So stop talkin about things that already happened. WE already won the league and no one can take it away from us! So when the league is won this year, then it's 'Grande Madrid' and 'Crisis in Barca'! (or vice versa, because thats how it goes in Spain)
 

solaimaa

Reserve Team
Finally, one last thing.

In the past three years, whenever Ronaldinho, Eto'o and Messi have started together, whe have won 87% of our matches. That's a pretty big percentage. This year, REM have only played 1 measly game together because of your injuries. Imagine if Ruud Raul and Robinho had only started 1 game together all year. I'm pretty sure you guys would be more than just 7pts behind at the halfway stage, so all things considered, we're doing well. Now if we could just keep our players fit, we could start mounting a title challenge. It's not all over, but if we win all of our remaining matches and only draw maximum 2 of them, I'm confident we can still win the league.
 

KingPaulV

Starting XI
Yeah lets talk about those phamtom penalties....(Barca against Athletic, Lyon, Racing anybody?) Or Phamtom goals (that Yaya ball that hit the crossbar and bounced outside the line eaerlier in the year?) yeah, but whatever as they say in Spain anytime the ref helps Barca its ok, nobody talks about it, but when the ref "SEEMS" to help us then its a national outcry; you guys (Not all Barca fans, as I've said before there are some noted class acts) are sore loosers, face it, you guys dont like to be #2 and that is all you are....dont claim to be what you are not, you are not Madrid, you will never be Madrid, our history our shirt and the fact that we are still bagging them in precedes us....

Would I like to play better football? absolutely, but am I going to complain about getting points and being ahead in la liga? HELL NO! that is why we play the game! we play to win, and we are winning, I might not like the way we win all the time but we are winning; If you really want to sit there and wait for our "luck" to run out, then keep on waiting buddy, cause what you still fail to understand is that " GOOD TEAMS FIND WAYS TO WIN" we have been finding ways to win; wheter it is attacking Zaragoza and Levanted in the last 15 minutes, or whether making sure we are putting them in the net when we get a chance to do it; whatever, the case might be....You dont understand that concept obviously......

I am done talking to you, cause like i have said before; some of you Barca fans should just go and call yourselves FARSA fans, that's all you are, all you'll ever be second best always, always with that stupid inferiority complex, always going back to the freaking political crap, always talking about what could have been but wasnt....
 

Jaouadinho

Senior Squad
dave5000;2468556 said:
agree but their look will be over soon ;)
ih i guess u guys are only looking at the start of 2008 and not the starts of the season.

if we are only talking about 2008 then yeh we have been lucky and yes u have played better football, but i guess u r so short sited and stupid u forget when we beat u 1-0 at the camp nou with a fabolous goal, but then ull just say it was because messi wasnt playing (even though most barca fans said we dont need him well beat without him). 5-1 away at valencia that was "luck". 5-0 against villaral that was luck eh. yeh theire have been games since the BEGENING of the season when havnt played that well and still won but thats what big teams do, they get results. we know we arnt goign to play the best football every game, and seeing how new and young the actuall squad is iam quite happy with were we are now we are a team still adapting and yet, we are still 7 points clear of you, even though u have players like deco, puyol, marquez, etc etc who have been together for the last 4 to 5 years.

oh and i think if we lose van nistelrooy, raul and robinho well still win because we have a squad of 25 and not just 12 13,they are great players and any team would miss them if they lose them but we still have the strenght and depth to win games without them. we have robben, higuain saviola baptista etc etc.

but like some people have already sed u r plain and simple just sore losers.
 

justhammy

Senior Squad
solaimaa;2468607 said:
Finally, one last thing.

In the past three years, whenever Ronaldinho, Eto'o and Messi have started together, whe have won 87% of our matches. That's a pretty big percentage. This year, REM have only played 1 measly game together because of your injuries. Imagine if Ruud Raul and Robinho had only started 1 game together all year. I'm pretty sure you guys would be more than just 7pts behind at the halfway stage, so all things considered, we're doing well. Now if we could just keep our players fit, we could start mounting a title challenge. It's not all over, but if we win all of our remaining matches and only draw maximum 2 of them, I'm confident we can still win the league.
Uhm, if we are gonna talk about injuries then please start running because we have had alot more than you did! Heinze, Robben(!), Pepe, Metze, Canna, Torres, Sneijder and now, Balboa, Soldado etc. etc. I mean come on! Our whole squad is or has been freakin injured. Dont talk about 3 players! You win with 11 players not 1, 2 or 3 individuals!
 

solaimaa

Reserve Team
justhammy;2468662 said:
Uhm, if we are gonna talk about injuries then please start running because we have had alot more than you did! Heinze, Robben(!), Pepe, Metze, Canna, Torres, Sneijder and now, Balboa, Soldado etc. etc. I mean come on! Our whole squad is or has been freakin injured. Dont talk about 3 players! You win with 11 players not 1, 2 or 3 individuals!

don't say stupid stuff. would you or would you not be 1st and 7 points ahead if ruud, raul, and robinho had only played one game together all year? the answer is no, you wouldn't, and that's the point i was making.
 

solaimaa

Reserve Team
There's no point talking to you morons. Posts like the last ones from Jaouadinho and queenpaul just reminded me why i haven't posted on these forums for months.

Jaouadinho: Do you read anything before you start spewing your crap? Just a few posts ago I said that you guys were the better team at the camp nou and deserved your victory, but clearly, you're too stupid to read before responding. I have nothing against any of Madrid's fans, and I am not bitter because you guys beat us. Plain and simple, I don't think you are the best team in spain, you win games because you get lucky, and that pisses me off. Like I said earlier, if you win the league, I will congratulate you, but right now, you are playing like a team from the segunda division. Even during our worst games we haven't played this bad, and I just want teams to actually take a few of the many chances they take each game. The fact that you don't get scored on has more to do with their ineptitude than your skill, except maybe Casillas. Haha the mighty Jaunma was making Marcello look like a schoolboy vs. Levante...levante!

Queenpaul: wtf are you talking about? did anyone mention referees? and why do you keep bringing this stupid stuff about inferiority complexes into everything. i don't give a flying f*ck about what you've done in the past. i could care less about how many champions leagues you have won, how many titles you have won, or any of those meaningless statistics. to me, you will always be the real madrid, the team that i hate because of the political history of catalunya. no barca fan wants their team to be like madrid, no barca fan is jealous of madrid, and if u think that, then you are quite delusional. we are proud that we are known as the players of attractive, attacking football, and we don't give a sh!t about you. yes, do i wish that teams would finish you off instead of getting 10 chances a game and missing them all? you bet your a$$ i do. this is what frustrates me, nothing about refs, nothing about how many titles you've won, or any other bull**** you've written. quit giving yourself so much importance, and if you're feeling too high and mighty, just go back and view the clip i posted, i'm sure that'll bring back great memories.
 

KingPaulV

Starting XI
solaimaa;2468670 said:
There's no point talking to you morons. Posts like the last ones from Jaouadinho and queenpaul just reminded me why i haven't posted on these forums for months.

Jaouadinho: Do you read anything before you start spewing your crap? Just a few posts ago I said that you guys were the better team at the camp nou and deserved your victory, but clearly, you're too stupid to read before responding. I have nothing against any of Madrid's fans, and I am not bitter because you guys beat us. Plain and simple, I don't think you are the best team in spain, you win games because you get lucky, and that pisses me off. Like I said earlier, if you win the league, I will congratulate you, but right now, you are playing like a team from the segunda division. Even during our worst games we haven't played this bad, and I just want teams to actually take a few of the many chances they take each game. The fact that you don't get scored on has more to do with their ineptitude than your skill, except maybe Casillas. Haha the mighty Jaunma was making Marcello look like a schoolboy vs. Levante...levante!

Queenpaul: wtf are you talking about? did anyone mention referees? and why do you keep bringing this stupid stuff about inferiority complexes into everything. i don't give a flying f*ck about what you've done in the past. i could care less about how many champions leagues you have won, how many titles you have won, or any of those meaningless statistics. to me, you will always be the real madrid, the team that i hate because of the political history of catalunya. no barca fan wants their team to be like madrid, no barca fan is jealous of madrid, and if u think that, then you are quite delusional. we are proud that we are known as the players of attractive, attacking football, and we don't give a sh!t about you. yes, do i wish that teams would finish you off instead of getting 10 chances a game and missing them all? you bet your a$$ i do. this is what frustrates me, nothing about refs, nothing about how many titles you've won, or any other bull**** you've written. quit giving yourself so much importance, and if you're feeling too high and mighty, just go back and view the clip i posted, i'm sure that'll bring back great memories.

yeah, i reckon, go back to your hyatus or better yet dont come back at all, you're nothing but a moron, who as I pointed out brings up political crap that has nothing to do with the reality of world football nowadays, nor does it have anything to do with either the Barcelona or Real Madrid Organizations of today.....and please dont start that childish crap about videos ok; I didnt even look at it nor do I plan to, I can post videos myself thank you.

, you will always be the real madrid, the team that i hate because of the political history of catalunya
(N) as I said.....


you win games because you get lucky, and that pisses me off
hey guys isint this the definition of a sore loser???? :D

that handball given today was extremely 50/50, the guy just blasted it at his arm, and could easily not have been given
yup, but nobody is talking about refs or anything right!

and I just want teams to actually take a few of the many chances they take each game
not jealousy, really?........ really?!

And my finale, for you Solaimaa (notice, I had enough decency, to spell your name right; but of course, you're not a sore loser, or inmature)

quit giving yourself so much importance, and if you're feeling too high and mighty...
then I will look at all your post and realize how grateful I am, and migthy I am to be a fan of the most hated, most talked about and ultimatelly most beloved club in the world!

Thank you Solaimaa, it is people like you who bring meaning to this forum and this rivalry
 

Socrates

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solaimaa;2468666 said:
don't say stupid stuff. would you or would you not be 1st and 7 points ahead if ruud, raul, and robinho had only played one game together all year? the answer is no, you wouldn't, and that's the point i was making.

LMAO :D Now your talking about what if's? Who the **** cares, were 7 points clear and guess what that's a fact. You can keep moaning about what if this and what if that but it won't change the table. Oh and Dinho has been **** for a while now, you still expect something from him:D
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
solaimaa;2468670 said:
There's no point talking to you morons. Posts like the last ones from Jaouadinho and queenpaul just reminded me why i haven't posted on these forums for months.

Jaouadinho: Do you read anything before you start spewing your crap? Just a few posts ago I said that you guys were the better team at the camp nou and deserved your victory, but clearly, you're too stupid to read before responding. I have nothing against any of Madrid's fans, and I am not bitter because you guys beat us. Plain and simple, I don't think you are the best team in spain, you win games because you get lucky, and that pisses me off. Like I said earlier, if you win the league, I will congratulate you, but right now, you are playing like a team from the segunda division. Even during our worst games we haven't played this bad, and I just want teams to actually take a few of the many chances they take each game. The fact that you don't get scored on has more to do with their ineptitude than your skill, except maybe Casillas. Haha the mighty Jaunma was making Marcello look like a schoolboy vs. Levante...levante!

Queenpaul: wtf are you talking about? did anyone mention referees? and why do you keep bringing this stupid stuff about inferiority complexes into everything. i don't give a flying f*ck about what you've done in the past. i could care less about how many champions leagues you have won, how many titles you have won, or any of those meaningless statistics. to me, you will always be the real madrid, the team that i hate because of the political history of catalunya. no barca fan wants their team to be like madrid, no barca fan is jealous of madrid, and if u think that, then you are quite delusional. we are proud that we are known as the players of attractive, attacking football, and we don't give a sh!t about you. yes, do i wish that teams would finish you off instead of getting 10 chances a game and missing them all? you bet your a$$ i do. this is what frustrates me, nothing about refs, nothing about how many titles you've won, or any other bull**** you've written. quit giving yourself so much importance, and if you're feeling too high and mighty, just go back and view the clip i posted, i'm sure that'll bring back great memories.

When all is said and done, we are the defending champs, we stomped you this year, we won and drew against you last year, we have 9 cl trophies, we have 30 liga trophies and we are 7 points ahead this year. We are traditionally Spains #1 team. We are at the top of the heap and you my friend wish you were there. Keep on crying, it's what cules do best. You my friend are the red headed stepchild, you are the epitamy of envy. Now go on suck on your moms tit. You are a pure kunt. Please stay away.
 

AdyKew

Youth Team
"i don't give a flying f*ck about what you've done in the past."

so why post a video of a has been, that happened in the past. seems like so long ago
 
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