REVIEW fifa 2004

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Originally posted by Stocksy
Back to the point, because of this intricate system for each player in PES it is possible to build teams just like in real football and in this day and age is the most accurate interpretation of how a real game is played. So if you want a football simulation buy PES and if you want to remain a mindless child for the rest of your lives stick with FIFA.

I played PES 3 and didn't see any career mode...

 

[twisted karma]

Don't think there are any PC reviews yet, however go to this site:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps2/fifasoccer2004/

They are excellent because they collect all the reviews for each game. FIFA so far has got scores of 80 and 85 (which isn't bad).

PES3 has scores of 90, 90, 90, 96, 100 and 100 (average of 94)

 

[player13]

Originally posted by Stocksy
PES3 has pages upon pages of statistics rated from 1-99 for each player before considering their morale, match fitness and overall fatigue.

FIFA2004 has more than 20 different attributes rated from 1-100.

 

[fifafan2004]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD how can u say pes3 has more statistics than FIFA, FIFA is all about statistics it has every statistics for every player(speed, flair, passing etc...)there personality and playing style there AI is for individual players, which work as a team full of tactics and playing stles to perform the perfect team DONT GO THERE !!!!!!!!!

ans fifa has morale in career mode
and each player does not have there own skill its the same for every player.

 

[fifafan2004]

on pes3

 

[twisted karma]

Pro Evo has more than 30 separate stats, definitely more than FIFA. I particularly like the new one for how good they player is with his weak foot.

Still reckon you're a computer games journalist FIFA Fan?

 

[francis81]

- Can you attach some xbox screenshots ?, especially showing the practice mode , the training stadiums and some matches between latin american teams.

 

[fifafan2004]

YOU LIARRRRRRRRRR i had pes3 before i sold it and it had nowwhere near 30 stats about 20

 

[V-9]

Originally posted by fifafan2004
YOU LIARRRRRRRRRR i had pes3 before i sold it and it had nowwhere near 30 stats about 20

Actually he underestimated PES stats. Here are the total number of stats:
Normal Abilities (out of 100)

01-Offense
02-Defense
03-Body Balance
04-Stamina
05-Top Speed
06-Acceleration
07-Response
08-Agility
09-Dribble Accuracy
10-Dribble Speed
11-Short Pass Accuracy
12-Short Pass Speed
13-Long Pass Accuracy
14-Long Pass Speed
15-Shot Accuracy
16-Shot Power
17-Shot Technique
18-Free Kick Accuracy
19-Curve
20-Heading Accuracy
21-Jumping Power
22-Technique
23-Aggression
24-Mentality
25-Play Stability
26-Goalkeeper Skills
27-Teamwork
28-Condition Stability
29-Other Foot Accuracy

Special Abilities

01-Dribbler
02-Post Player
03-Positioning
04-Running Out
05-Striker
06-Gamemaker
07-Passer
08-Both Foot
09-PK Kicker
10-1 vs 1 kicker
11-Long Thrower
12-Direct Play
13-Outside
14-Man Marking
15-DF line leadership
16-Free Kick
17-PK keeper
18-1 vs 1 GK
19-Tolerance of wound
20-Special FK

I thought you are a journalist. Are you suppose to know how many stats there in PES since you write reviews?

 

[valioso]

Originally posted by V-9

I thought you are a journalist. Are you suppose to know how many stats there in PES since you write reviews?

lol

 

[rane]

V9, look at his nick - it says it all

 

[DiSmithio]

god u pro evo fans are such twats*, why dont you go to a forum and speak about ur game there as were not interested in it here. we wanna buy FIFA, u dont, leave it at that n fu*k off

 

[DiSmithio]

having played pro evo 3 for a cuple dyas, i thought the game was ok, cuidda got better with more plays, but i got pissed off with the stupid ass team names, and ridiculous commentary, aswell as awful referee AI. its a good game, but im buying fifa, cosm im a fifa fan, so pro evo fans why dont u get out of the FIFA FORUM cos in dont understand why ur here?

 

[rane]

Um...isnt this thread in the PES/WE/ISS vs FIFA forum? *looks at the navigation header* - oh yes it is

 

[Han]

How often did we sum up the difference between FIFA-fans and PES fans
FIFA-fans: Love arcade-like football game with players with Liscened kits. Hope to trash the CPU with a lot of goals difference. They are not very critical about strategy.
PES-fans:
Primary hardcore football-fans who are very demanding about the real moves like 1-2's, setting strategies and tactics.
They are disappointed if the game is not exciting enough; they love close matches. They also do really train on the training pitch
A bit jealous about FIFA's liscencing but they don't find that too big deal, else they would have been FIFA-fans

In short: FIFA-players love arcade footbal and PES-players love a football-simutalion

 

[5 VIOLINOS]

Originally posted by NerazZurRo
and have you noticed how the PES fans (in the PES forums) started getting abusive and stuff while in the past they were "constructive and mature"?
they finally realized PES got its ass kicked.

 

[player13]

Originally posted by Han
How often did we sum up the difference between FIFA-fans and PES fans
FIFA-fans: Love arcade-like football game with players with Liscened kits. Hope to trash the CPU with a lot of goals difference. They are not very critical about strategy.

U R NOT fair here. if u read fifa forums here in soccergaming u understand that this isnt the case.
and btw: pes2 wasnt an arcade game?? end to end hectic action!u could dribble all of your opossition defence like they r ghosts.

 

[pokwang]

Originally posted by player13
U R NOT fair here. if u read fifa forums here in soccergaming u understand that this isnt the case.
and btw: pes2 wasnt an arcade game?? end to end hectic action!u could dribble all of your opossition defence like they r ghosts.

Whats wrong with end to end hectic action? last week Chel vs Ars was "end to end hectic action". Now, whats wrong with that?

Arcadey=pickup-and-play, shallow learning curve, predictable and repetetive AI, simplistic physics and mechanics.

Simulation=opposite of the above

FIFA(traditionally)=Arcadey

 

[player13]

Originally posted by pokwang
Whats wrong with end to end hectic action? last week Chel vs Ars was "end to end hectic action". Now, whats wrong with that

the wrong is that only a few matches play like that...u know not every nation can play like english do.and even in premier league only few games have such a fast pace.

 

[pokwang]

Originally posted by player13
the wrong is that only a few matches play like that...u know not every nation can play like english do.and even in premier league only few games have such a fast pace.

Well, its not like you're forced to play that way there's many styles you can play the game.

But just to put this matters to rest, PES2 was "tweaked" so that its easier to dribble around defence than previous games. This was admitted by Seabass in an interview, and many hardcore WE/PES fan were not really pleased with the biased gameplay. This was later rectified in WE6:FE and now WE7 looks like it doesnt suffer from that problem too.

But that doesnt mean that PES is arcadey. Its the deepest football game ever created.