ridiculously uneven fatigue

[pfk505]

Hey everyone

I recently switched up a difficulty level and when I did, I noticed right away that the fatigue levels (in manager mode) are absurdly uneven. I have played 3 games, used 3 subs in each game, and every single player save the goalkeepers are in the mid to low yellow level. Each time I play a new game, I notice the CPU team fatigue levels are 100% in the green. This is absolutely ridiculous. I know how to edit career.ini, but can anyone give me some good figures to even this out? I went from Semi-pro to Pro, and the levels on Semi-Pro were realisitic and quite fine.

Thanks!

edited to include: 3rd game - started every single reserve. 4th game - every player on team started in the yellow (except keeper). 5th game - 75% of team in the red by HALFTIME.

 

[Nymphetamine]

I share your pain dude.
I remember playing a couple of games in Manager mode with an english team from the 3rd division and halfway through the first 2 or 3 games the whole team was exhausted, and some where even so tired they couldn't do anything, which is completely moronic considering it was the start of the season... I mean I know that when the season has just started the players are far from their best phyisical form, but c'mon...
Gimme a break...

 

[pfk505]

Exactly

I wouldnt mind so much if the CPU teams had similar levels, but HOW THE HELL can EA set these levels and then think they are OK to put out a final product with? Why go to all the trouble of even creating "realistic" features like morale and fatigue if they cant be bothered to make them halfway realistic at all difficulty levels? Why do players get more fatigued at higher difficulty levels (this is not realistic at all).

Anyway, maybe if someone out there is playing on semi pro and can paste their career.ini fatigue values I can try pasting them into mine.

 

[FFC2004]

i had the same problem... i just don't play manager mode anymore..

 

[nebulachapin]

You guys are wimps. I am in 4-5th season and dealt with the fatigue issues the
whole time. I win games, I win silverware.

Advice: rotate players, upgrade your medical staff and field player coaches,
and did I mention rotate your players????

Sometimes you have fitness issues you have to start some players out of position.
Guess what, it happens in real life! Gee!

I dont see much point in playing FIFA07 unless you play manager mode.

edit: (BTW fatigue gets better at times during the season depending on your schedule)

 

[pfk505]

Forgot to mention in my first post that I did rotate my players. Only the 3rd game of a new season and I had to start every single reserve on my squad. And if you had bothered to read my post, the issue wasnt so much with the fatigue, but the fact that it is UNEVEN between the user and CPU teams.

 

[nebulachapin]

Forgot to mention in my first post that I did rotate my players. Only the 3rd game of a new season and I had to start every single reserve on my squad. And if you had bothered to read my post, the issue wasnt so much with the fatigue, but the fact that it is UNEVEN between the user and CPU teams.

Hey pfk505, no need to get snippy. I read your post, and I know all about the CPU teams not suffering the same problems as the user team. Actually, there have been many times I have seen the cpu starting with a team
all in the yellow, or even starting a particular player in
the red. Generally during times in which the schedule
is clogged. But that said, its not on the same par as the
user fatigue. I agree. But again, the idea maybe is those
teams have better trainers. You have to build up your own staff and rotate. Also, it doesnt hurt to have 25 or more players on your squad.

 

[Adamo]

Deep squad, rotate, improve trainers, repeat!

 

[StevePitts]

I recently switched up a difficulty level and when I did, I noticed right away that the fatigue levels (in manager mode) are absurdly uneven. I have played 3 games, used 3 subs in each game, and every single player save the goalkeepers are in the mid to low yellow level. Each time I play a new game, I notice the CPU team fatigue levels are 100% in the green.

Was this at the start of a new season?? If so, it might just be that the teams you are playing against don't have as many fixtures as you do early in the season. I've not noticed fatigue change when I've changed difficulty levels but I do see plenty of opponents with tired players. I had massive problems with fatigue when I first started manager mode (it seems to be heavily biased against lower league teams with poor coaching staffs) but improving my staff, learning to play without sprinting (except when really necessary) and settling for fit players rather than happy ones (especially in midfield and on the outside of the back four) has alleviated most of the problem.

I know how to edit career.ini, but can anyone give me some good figures to even this out? I went from Semi-pro to Pro, and the levels on Semi-Pro were realisitic and quite fine.

Is this playing with the same team at both levels?? I changed from Semi to Pro in the middle of the season and didn't notice any change in fatigue levels (and the CAREER.INI settings don't change when you change difficulty). It is very apparent the difference between playing as Wycombe (me) and playing as Fiorentina (my son) so if you started again with a different (lower level) team then that might explain what you are seeing.

You guys are wimps. I am in 4-5th season and dealt with the fatigue issues the whole time

Just as a matter of interest, what team were you playing with??

Advice: rotate players, upgrade your medical staff and field player coaches

All solid advice, but not easy to follow with a League Two team with little money.

Hey pfk505, no need to get snippy

That one gave me a good laugh. You started your previous post with the hardly 'happy clappy' phrase "You guys are wimps" and then complain when the OP has the temerity to suggest, in perfectly reasonable tones, that you'd missed the point of his post.

 

[nebulachapin]

Just as a matter of interest, what team were you playing with??

I began my career with League 1 Yeovil Town, and 400k pounds. On top of that I use
NKs gameplay because the stock game is far too simple at WC. I spent 4 seasons
with Yeovil getting them to the premiership, and actually finished 2nd. I had only two
players over 70 in stats, and the highest one (77) consistently sat on the bench. By the time I hit the premiership all my starters were in the 60s.

All solid advice, but not easy to follow with a League Two team with little money.

Sure League 2 may be a bit more difficult but I am sure I would have been able
to manage it. The weakest (1.5 star) League 1 team is hardly a stretch.

That one gave me a good laugh. You started your previous post with the hardly 'happy clappy' phrase "You guys are wimps" and then complain when the OP has the temerity to suggest, in perfectly reasonable tones, that you'd missed the point of his post.

The intention of my "wimps" comment was not to be insulting, but more of a
light-hearted jibe. There was no malice in the comment. My bad for not including
a customary "smiley face" to indicate my emotional state. Here you go:

I am sure I did not miss the point of his post. I just chose to focus on other aspects of his post.

 

[pfk505]

Was this at the start of a new season??

Yes it was. I didnt bother to check my calendar, but I was already up 2 games on most teams in the league by the time I hit the 6th fixture. Its my fault for not checking the calendar. The fatigue levels have eased off a bit since then, plus I added some players. Thank you guys all for your advice.. Fatigue is still uneven in game but I can live with it the way it is now I suppose.

 

[StevePitts]

I began my career with League 1 Yeovil Town, and 400k pounds

Four hundred thousand pounds - luxury. When I started my career I was lucky to get two shillings and a sherbet fountain

I use NKs gameplay because the stock game is far too simple at WC

I've started to notice that. I'm not a twitch gamer by any means (too old to have the reactions, for a start) but I've just moved up to World Class (from Pro, obviously) exactly in the middle of an Americas Club Championship tournament with Corinthians. My first three matches I scored ten goals and conceded none, which was better than I'd been doing at Pro (although the particular opponents I was matched up against may have contributed to that). After that first WC game I received 4000 points for completing three challenges, and it would have been more if I'd not been offside by the width of a shirt front. Having now played half a dozen WC games and won all of them I was beginning to wonder if there is a bug in the difficulty levelling.

The intention of my "wimps" comment was not to be insulting, but more of a light-hearted jibe. There was no malice in the comment. My bad for not including a customary "smiley face" to indicate my emotional state

Sorry, I didn't feel that your comment was insulting, just that the reply that triggered your 'snippy' observation didn't strike me as any 'snippier' than your post. The addition of an emoticon would not have changed that

 

[1966+2006]

never had this problem. just have to rest a couple of players now and again....the medical staff are very important though...

 

[StevePitts]

never had this problem. just have to rest a couple of players now and again

Playing with which team(s)??

 

[nebulachapin]

Four hundred thousand pounds - luxury. When I started my career I was lucky to get two shillings and a sherbet fountain

Not to be tooting my own horn but I am sure I would have done fine with the team with the lowest income.

Really, though, on that subject, I wish EA would do a little better about "job offers" at the beginning of your career. I can't imagine being offered a premiership job fresh out of the classroom. So I chose to do my own "reality check" by only allowing myself to sign for a team with 1.5 stars or less. I chose Yeovil. But I could have chosen a myriad of other minnows. As you progress, the job offers you get should reflect your prestige.

The amount of jobs "available" at the beginning of your career is staggering. I would be perfectly happy if there was < 10 worldwide to choose from.

On yet another side not, you say you are slow due to age. Just how old are you? We could compare age, you and I.

 

[StevePitts]

The amount of jobs "available" at the beginning of your career is staggering. I would be perfectly happy if there was < 10 worldwide to choose from

See, poor old EA Sports can't win whichever way they do it. I suspect that FIFA 07 offers you the opportunity to manage pretty much any club at the start of your career because there were so many complaints last year about not being able to start with Chelsea, or Man U, or Barca, or Real Madrid, or ... well, you get the idea. The game does limit job offers after that first season, but as you say you do get rather too many to choose from.

Personally I'd like to see them implement an idea that I suggested last year and have a sandbox mode for those that just want to play with their favourite top level club and win everything in sight, whilst having a simulation mode for those of us that want a more realistic background to our footballing.

you say you are slow due to age. Just how old are you?

As my web site would have told you (it should also be accessible by clicking on my name in the poster details to the left of the post text) I am a 46 year old father of three. Not sure whether it is the age bit or the father bit that makes the greatest contribution to my dulled reactions

 

[Ultra_Blue]

My decision on this problem is to play manager mode in semi pro .

 

[nebulachapin]

Personally I'd like to see them implement an idea that I suggested last year and have a sandbox mode for those that just want to play with their favourite top level club and win everything in sight, whilst having a simulation mode for those of us that want a more realistic background to our footballing.

Yes, this is the most sensible approach. I can understand the complaints from others as to not being able to play
Real Madrid from the start. Hopefully they will get around to doing this, at some point.

As my web site would have told you (it should also be accessible by clicking on my name in the poster details to the left of the post text) I am a 46 year old father of three. Not sure whether it is the age bit or the father bit that makes the greatest contribution to my dulled reactions

Ah, I missed that. Being 40 myself, I am not always that quick to spot the obvious. I have my first on the way next month, but it sounds like either I have two kids to go or 6 years before my gameplay abilities truly start to wane.