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Samuel Converted Stadiums!!!

Leonenko

Club Supporter
Im glad to see your doing all this work and im wondering if you are planing to convert Celtic Park since you said to be releasing Ibrox for Rangers?

Keep up the good work
 

Triple5

Youth Team
My suggestion would be to set the priority of popular
stadiums higher then for smaller ones like Regionalliga!


So, what about converting The CL-Final Stadium (called Olympakio Stadium Athens) :blush
 

Triple5

Youth Team
Yes guys, i know that. Thanks
but this one crashes everytime i play in it
with 2gk :)
I just ask about to try SAMUELS solution so
everyone can play the Champions League Final in Athens ;)
 

Zefilio

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Life Ban
Forget about using 2GK in conjunction with (most) user made stadiums or play Fifa06, Fifa07 just has not enough memory to allocate the textures in (while Fifa06 had more than enough, go figure), so unless someone fiddles with the fifa07.exe itself it won't happen.
 

Zefilio

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SAMUELKATALAN;2298172 said:
Zefilio shut mate i have the solution and to show you i'm going to upload Athens Stadium in Not FUll house and Champions own

The Athens stadium in the UEFA CL game works in 2GK because it is a home made EA one and has less polyglons than user ones (which most authors overdo on the polyglon count anyway, a bit like the facemakers and their precious 2GF which is bull**** anyway), so uses less memory than the user made one.

I'm not some retard that pulls info out of his ass (unlike my Ockham pall) so you don't tell me to shut up please. I work with Fifa files from the time most were still ****ting themselves in their pampers, and I made Doom I levels in the time most weren't even sperm cells. I worked thousands of men hours on Fifa games and my real life name is in the credits of Fifa2005, 06 and 07. (Yes I work(ed) for EA as a database editor, not going to work on 08 though, they are changing all of their database editors, so for peeps interested there are openings right now, so instead of complaining about the db, get your asses at work, thx).

So your "big secret from the l33t" is simple : to make stadiums work with 2GK kits you shrink the stadium textures as much as possible (not a bad thing, in fact an excellent idea) + remove some non important textures (like the track one in the Louis II) and oh miracle, it works in 2GK, correct me if I'm wrong.

It's simple mathematics : let's make it easy : say Fifa07 memory is 100% :

Stadium unshrinked takes up 30%, addboards take up 5%, faces 25%, kits 40% (1GK ones half of that so 22,5%), that's 100%, now add one more double textured ball, flag or shoe and your game will crash.

If I would respect the 100% scale from Fifa07, Fifa06 allowed 150%, so everything worked in 2GK (save faces but then again those eat hogs of memory and they never worked above 1GF anyway, those stating the contrary are plain liars) but for some reason only known by the bright developpers team at EA they shrunk the memory capacity in it's successor. WTG.

You see Samuel I'm not mad at you, your youthfull enthousiasm even makes me smile sometimes, but refrain from telling me to shut up, it's better for my blood pressure, for my relatives and for everything in 10 meters around me, thanks.
 

Biebrich 02

Senior Squad
SAMUELKATALAN;2298183 said:
To much talk with you shut your mouth here is Athens compatible in 2gk :
OLIMPIC ATHENS

LINK AND NEED COMMENTS!!!

1. It's quite rude to tell someone to shut up if he takes the effort to explain something to you
2. what do you always want comments for? you didn't make the stadium, and the quality of the conversion is a bit hard to measure.
 

SAMUELKATALAN

Senior Squad
sure i will and hope You have tested it next release and this is a high level one know i can convert the stadiums in half full way just like real life. You all know Anoeta and also Riazor those Stadiums are like they aren´t full 100% .

Sorry Zefilio but test it with your own eyes. I didn´t want to hurt or insult you i fill bad for what i did against you
 

davidmende

Starting XI
So it seem there is no possibility to have a normal manager career having 2gk with any of these the converted stadiums. it´s a shame but wé´ll have to stick with EA ones.
 

SAMUELKATALAN

Senior Squad
very strange i got normal career mode mate i think you need to delete the gk 2gk kits and rebuild fath or bh files is strange mate because i don´t have those problems
 

Jomi

Reserve Team
SAMUELKATALAN;2298188 said:
You all know Anoeta and also Riazor those Stadiums are like they aren´t full 100% .

You should release 2 versions if possible...one full house for 1G graphs and one not full house for all the 2G fanatics ...Because sometimes, those stadiums are full ( sociedad vs bilbao for ex )
 

fifaCCitiu.com

Senior Squad
Zefilio;2298177 said:
The Athens stadium in the UEFA CL game works in 2GK because it is a home made EA one and has less polyglons than user ones (which most authors overdo on the polyglon count anyway, a bit like the facemakers and their precious 2GF which is bull**** anyway), so uses less memory than the user made one.

I'm not some retard that pulls info out of his ass (unlike my Ockham pall) so you don't tell me to shut up please. I work with Fifa files from the time most were still ****ting themselves in their pampers, and I made Doom I levels in the time most weren't even sperm cells. I worked thousands of men hours on Fifa games and my real life name is in the credits of Fifa2005, 06 and 07. (Yes I work(ed) for EA as a database editor, not going to work on 08 though, they are changing all of their database editors, so for peeps interested there are openings right now, so instead of complaining about the db, get your asses at work, thx).

So your "big secret from the l33t" is simple : to make stadiums work with 2GK kits you shrink the stadium textures as much as possible (not a bad thing, in fact an excellent idea) + remove some non important textures (like the track one in the Louis II) and oh miracle, it works in 2GK, correct me if I'm wrong.

It's simple mathematics : let's make it easy : say Fifa07 memory is 100% :

Stadium unshrinked takes up 30%, addboards take up 5%, faces 25%, kits 40% (1GK ones half of that so 22,5%), that's 100%, now add one more double textured ball, flag or shoe and your game will crash.

If I would respect the 100% scale from Fifa07, Fifa06 allowed 150%, so everything worked in 2GK (save faces but then again those eat hogs of memory and they never worked above 1GF anyway, those stating the contrary are plain liars) but for some reason only known by the bright developpers team at EA they shrunk the memory capacity in it's successor. WTG.

You see Samuel I'm not mad at you, your youthfull enthousiasm even makes me smile sometimes, but refrain from telling me to shut up, it's better for my blood pressure, for my relatives and for everything in 10 meters around me, thanks.

yes, i agree with you with memory use of the game...
 

Zefilio

Red Card - Racist/Insulting Members [Life]
Life Ban
Wow, I took the time to reread my post and I sound like a pompuous old dick in some paragraphs (my Doom levels rule though, anyone still running MS DOS? :D ), I apoligise to Samuel, didn't mean to be rude, was in a very bad mood yesterday and I should reffrain typing posts when in such a mood. So sorry for that.

If you have a way to make the stadiums work in 2GK, or your friend has one other people including me are missing, please make your friend consider to explain it, make a brief tutorial maybe if he has time for the benefit of every stadium user/editor/convertor.

On another note, I corrected the conversion of the CT Bellnet Riverside from Middlesborough to work with 2GK by removing some unneeded textures, if some Boro fans need it, mail me or something (I can't publish it as it's not my work) and I'll see if I can mail it to you.

Also I worked out the perfect stress test for new converted or built stadiums to test their memory capacity in handling double textured graphics.

- Select the stadium to test and choose nightime
- Teams : Real Madrid vs. Barcelona, then double check with Barcelona vs AC Milan (these 3 teams are the biggest memory hogs, if it works for those it works for all teams)
- Graphics : 1GK kits for keepers, 1GK kit for referees, 2GK kit for all players, Make all players wear their real life shoes in 2GB (see Keegan's thread to find the shoes and Kimikal's thread to see what the players wear), 2GA Adboards (brands don't matter), 2GB ball (any will do), 2GF flags for both teams and if possible 1GF faces for all players (including reserves).

Play, if it works you're fine. (and if you're brave try to put the referee in 2GK and the keepers also, 2GG gloves for the keepers and why not a nice double textured sky for the stadium, then try again between each step, if you succeed in launching all of that together, mail me your system specs! you would be the first known person to be able to run full 2G in Fifa07)

if it crashes when load stadium screen shows and loading bar doesn't reach the end, then first remove in this order :

- change 2GK kits to 1GK

retry, if it works you're fine, if not remove/change and try again in this order, retry the game in the above setting between each step to see if it works...

- change 2GA adboards to 1GA
- change 2GF home team flags to 1GF
- change 2GB Ball to 1GB

The only stadiums that work with everything in single texture so far are the Allianz Arena from Fifa ECP (change it with the EA CL game version as soon as you can) and the Rheinenergie from FC Cologne.

Very few stadiums work with everything in 2G :

White Hart Lane from the Spurs is one of those

Most stadiums accept everything in 2G save kits.

It's a bit of trial and error until you find the thing that works, but take backups often :)

Finaly when everyone has done their testing, put your heads together and release a Best of Stadiums patch for Fifa so everyone can use it :)
 


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