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Scolari new Chelsea Manager!
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MaestroZidane
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Chelsea have confirmed it..
Was gonna posted it when I heard a rumor yesterday, but didnt think much of it. Wonder what Chelsea fans will think of this.... Pede, what say you??
Was gonna posted it when I heard a rumor yesterday, but didnt think much of it. Wonder what Chelsea fans will think of this.... Pede, what say you??
Johnny_Big
Starting XI
dammit =(
The Special One is replaced by The Big Special.
Both those staements regarding Roman and Scolari, are paper talk Mikey. It is the media that would have you believe that Roman interferes in football matters at Chelsea, when the likes of us know that he does not. It is also the media that informed you that Scolari also advised Ronaldo to move on.
Roman does own the club though, and that does give him the right to do whatever he wants, but that is a right that he very rarely exercises. He had a big hand in the sacking of Mourinho of course, but then again Jose should not have slagged Roman off on live TV. Personally I would have sacked Jose too, and then punched his lights out, for being such a big mouth prick in front of so many people.
No, Kenyon is the one to be cautious of not Roman. Kenyon is indeed a power hungry idiot.
Do you think the Glaziers keep their noses out of Manchester United's buisness? I think not mate.
What people need to remember and realise, is that Roman is trying to rebuild our club almost from scratch. Mistakes have been, and will be made, and until the right personel are in place, we can never expect to see stability at Chelsea. Thats fine with me, because since Roman stepped in I have enjoyed every season, the highs and the lows. We will get the right people eventually and then we will settle down as a club.
Man U didn't have these problems when the Glazers took over, because Fergie had been at the club for donkey's years and Man U had stability. Our club was in pieces when Roman came in, so what we have achieved so far is remarkable in my eyes.
I'm enjoying it all, and there aint many fans that can say that about the club they love.
Roman does own the club though, and that does give him the right to do whatever he wants, but that is a right that he very rarely exercises. He had a big hand in the sacking of Mourinho of course, but then again Jose should not have slagged Roman off on live TV. Personally I would have sacked Jose too, and then punched his lights out, for being such a big mouth prick in front of so many people.
No, Kenyon is the one to be cautious of not Roman. Kenyon is indeed a power hungry idiot.
Do you think the Glaziers keep their noses out of Manchester United's buisness? I think not mate.
What people need to remember and realise, is that Roman is trying to rebuild our club almost from scratch. Mistakes have been, and will be made, and until the right personel are in place, we can never expect to see stability at Chelsea. Thats fine with me, because since Roman stepped in I have enjoyed every season, the highs and the lows. We will get the right people eventually and then we will settle down as a club.
Man U didn't have these problems when the Glazers took over, because Fergie had been at the club for donkey's years and Man U had stability. Our club was in pieces when Roman came in, so what we have achieved so far is remarkable in my eyes.
I'm enjoying it all, and there aint many fans that can say that about the club they love.
pede54;2536046 said:
True, but your real fans must be stunned at the turn around in such a short spell, I mean you used to flirt with the second division in the 1980's! (Mind you we did in the 70's)
In fact if memory serves, the week before Abramovich bought Chelsea - they were so strapped for cash that a £5M transfer of John Terry to United was being mentioned! (curses!)
On that subject though, it took Sir Alex about 7 or 8 years to turn United into the dominating force in English football - including the reforms/renovation he made to the scouting and youth policies as well - I don't think any manager would be given time to build like that in the current game.
I think the manager of Chelsea in particular will be under immediate pressure to deliver results - patience is a virtue, but not as it seems in football.
Before Roman came in we were on the verge of liquidation. That is why no matter what people wanna say about chelsea, we don't give a crap.
There wasn't actually a sudden turnaround since Roman came in though. Chelsea's momentum had been building from when Ruud Gullit became manager. Then Vialli took over and he did even better than Gullit. So the turnaround as you put it, hasn't been sudden at all.
As for flirting with the second division. Every team in the Premiership has been relegated at one time or another, except Arsenal ( thanks to a little bit of bribery). The trick is to come back up and stay there which is what we did. We have ALWAYS been a top division club and we have always been one of the biggest clubs in England too. To suggest anything else would be inaccurate.
We are not as nuevo riche as some would like to believe either. Before Bates, we always had plenty of money to burn. Shortly before the pig farmer arrived at Chelsea we were a rich club. The club lost a lot of money in the stock market crash at the time, and that's what pushed us down the road towards insolvency. Sure we are now richer than we have ever been, but it isn't something that we are not used to at Chelsea.
When Fergie took over at United, those were the days when managers remained in place forever at most clubs. We had a very settled club before Bates took over. His ego and ignorance meant that only he could be "the man" at Chelsea, and anyone who threatened that position was out on his ear. There was nothing constructive in Bates' motives though. It was all done out of spite.
To suggest that Roman is in any way similar to Bates is just ridiculous. He has as much say in football matters as the Glazers do at United. He has his opinions of course and he has his desires, but that does not mean that he dictates everything that happens at Chelsea. He is the owner, but we have a board of directors just like United, who make the decisions as the board see fit.
Everyone likes to think that the Sun's version of the "Roman at Chelsea" saga is the real deal. Nothing could be further from the truth. In truth he has very little say in the running of the club. We have people in place with a lot more experience and expertise than Roman has, and he happily conceeds that fact contrary to popular belief.
Another fallacy that needs to be put to bed is this crap, "instant results or you are out Mr Manager " scenario. Never has that been the policy at Chelsea and it never will be the policy at Chelsea. Give me one example of a Chelsea manager being sacked because his results were a dissapointment. Don't mention Avram Grant though, because bad results were not the reason why his managership came to an end. He achieved wonderfully and the club acknowledge that.
When Grant took over from Jose, it was made very very clear that this was a temporary appointment. That is a fact that people like to forget. The deal was to lead Chelsea for the rest of the season and then revert back to his Director of football post.
When the time came for Grant to step back at the end of the season, suddenly he didn't want to. He wanted another shot at being manager. He was reminded that was not the deal. Avram refused to be one of the backroom boys again and he chose to leave the club instead. That is the reason Grant is gone. There is not another.
If you think Scolari will be given one season to achieve, then you must be bonkers. Chelsea have always been looking for a manager who will take the club forward for years to come. Jose could have been that man, except for his hyperactive personality that alienated him and the club, from the rest of the civilised world. Someone that intense is always gonna bring everything down around himself, and that's what he did. He was too unstable to guarantee his own longevity.
Scolari or someone of his ilk, would be a much better proposition for Chelsea at this time. Scolari will not be thinking about which club he want's to move to next, as Jose did (which was understandable considering Jose's age).
Scolari, because of his age and experience will settle in better I think. He has his own kind of wierdness oif course, but hopefully his antics will amuse rather than confront.
All this just to repeat the same old crap. If you are gonna base your opinions about all things Chelsea, on what the tabloids are saying about us, then I feel sorry for you. I can see why it suits peoples needs to believe all the rubbish but really, all it shows to those who know better is that it is ignorance or bitterness. Or both.
There wasn't actually a sudden turnaround since Roman came in though. Chelsea's momentum had been building from when Ruud Gullit became manager. Then Vialli took over and he did even better than Gullit. So the turnaround as you put it, hasn't been sudden at all.
As for flirting with the second division. Every team in the Premiership has been relegated at one time or another, except Arsenal ( thanks to a little bit of bribery). The trick is to come back up and stay there which is what we did. We have ALWAYS been a top division club and we have always been one of the biggest clubs in England too. To suggest anything else would be inaccurate.
We are not as nuevo riche as some would like to believe either. Before Bates, we always had plenty of money to burn. Shortly before the pig farmer arrived at Chelsea we were a rich club. The club lost a lot of money in the stock market crash at the time, and that's what pushed us down the road towards insolvency. Sure we are now richer than we have ever been, but it isn't something that we are not used to at Chelsea.
When Fergie took over at United, those were the days when managers remained in place forever at most clubs. We had a very settled club before Bates took over. His ego and ignorance meant that only he could be "the man" at Chelsea, and anyone who threatened that position was out on his ear. There was nothing constructive in Bates' motives though. It was all done out of spite.
To suggest that Roman is in any way similar to Bates is just ridiculous. He has as much say in football matters as the Glazers do at United. He has his opinions of course and he has his desires, but that does not mean that he dictates everything that happens at Chelsea. He is the owner, but we have a board of directors just like United, who make the decisions as the board see fit.
Everyone likes to think that the Sun's version of the "Roman at Chelsea" saga is the real deal. Nothing could be further from the truth. In truth he has very little say in the running of the club. We have people in place with a lot more experience and expertise than Roman has, and he happily conceeds that fact contrary to popular belief.
Another fallacy that needs to be put to bed is this crap, "instant results or you are out Mr Manager " scenario. Never has that been the policy at Chelsea and it never will be the policy at Chelsea. Give me one example of a Chelsea manager being sacked because his results were a dissapointment. Don't mention Avram Grant though, because bad results were not the reason why his managership came to an end. He achieved wonderfully and the club acknowledge that.
When Grant took over from Jose, it was made very very clear that this was a temporary appointment. That is a fact that people like to forget. The deal was to lead Chelsea for the rest of the season and then revert back to his Director of football post.
When the time came for Grant to step back at the end of the season, suddenly he didn't want to. He wanted another shot at being manager. He was reminded that was not the deal. Avram refused to be one of the backroom boys again and he chose to leave the club instead. That is the reason Grant is gone. There is not another.
If you think Scolari will be given one season to achieve, then you must be bonkers. Chelsea have always been looking for a manager who will take the club forward for years to come. Jose could have been that man, except for his hyperactive personality that alienated him and the club, from the rest of the civilised world. Someone that intense is always gonna bring everything down around himself, and that's what he did. He was too unstable to guarantee his own longevity.
Scolari or someone of his ilk, would be a much better proposition for Chelsea at this time. Scolari will not be thinking about which club he want's to move to next, as Jose did (which was understandable considering Jose's age).
Scolari, because of his age and experience will settle in better I think. He has his own kind of wierdness oif course, but hopefully his antics will amuse rather than confront.
All this just to repeat the same old crap. If you are gonna base your opinions about all things Chelsea, on what the tabloids are saying about us, then I feel sorry for you. I can see why it suits peoples needs to believe all the rubbish but really, all it shows to those who know better is that it is ignorance or bitterness. Or both.