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SG's Ultimate Draft Challenge 2012--This Year there WILL be FM

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
It's BACK mother****ers! We start at midnight July 15th in the timezone of whoever wins the lottery. We already have 20 people interested, but if you still want in, or if you want out, just let me know. Here are the 20

1. ShiftyPowers
2. Keegan
3. Mandieta6
4. Sir_Didier_Drogba
5. Nady
6. Dytza
7. Ebonix
8. Juventino
9. skiptomylou (or whatever he is now)
10. Xifio
11. Horatiu
12. Andrei
13. fender
14. Jaboldinho
15. Mus
16. Massive
17. kp40
18. Coruja
19. Arnau
20. Zlatan

Rules...

ShiftyPowers;2921198 said:
The draft will be a "snake format" to ensure competitive balance. If you do not understand what this means, I will give you an example.

In the NBA the worst team gets the #1 pick (this isn't exactly accurate because of the lottery, but it is close enough) in the first round, and then gets the #1 pick in the second round. The team that wins the NBA Finals gets the last pick in the first round and the last pick in the second round. In a 4 team league it would go like this:

1. Team A
2. Team B
3. Team C
4. Team D

5. Team A
6. Team B
7. Team C
8. Team D

However, a snake format flips the order for alternating rounds:

1. Team A
2. Team B
3. Team C
4. Team D

5. Team D
6. Team C
7. Team B
8. Team A

This ensures competitive balance. In a league of 20 teams, the team blessed with the top pick will get Messi, but then they will have to wait while every other team gets to pick 2 players before they can pick again. This ensures competitive balance between all teams.

I will use a random fantasy draft order selector to provide the order using a random number generator; if I get the first pick I will scrap that order and do it again so it doesn't look like I rigged the process. I really want to find a way that gives me a chance to get the first pick, but to avoid the appearance of collusion I'll still scrap the order if I end up with the first pick. I will post the Order and the member with the first pick has 24 hours to make their selection starting midnight in their timezone, but the sooner the better. After the first pick is made the member with the 2nd pick will have 12 hours to make their selection, or else they will be skipped and the team with the third pick can pick at any time. They have 12 hours to make their pick, and Team 2 can also make their pick at any time. This is important; if you see that the team ahead of you has 30 minutes before their 12 hours is up, it's not a bad idea to wait for 1 minute after so you get the best player possible. It is also a major incentive to get your pick in on time. If you miss your pick by 4 hours you could see 6 or more players taken before you get your selection in. DO NOT MISS YOUR PICK. I understand that people have lives and this will be inevitable, but this draft will take FOREVER if we have to wait 12 hours for every selection. If you cannot check the board at least twice a day, then please just withdraw now. Most people do not sleep for 12 hours a day, and most people do not work for 12 hours a day, so these will not be tolerated as persistent excuses.

If any member becomes a hassle by constantly missing picks and holding up the draft, I have the right to kick them out and hand their team over to someone else. If you miss a pick you will be skipped until you come back; that means that if you miss one and then it comes back to your next pick, you will not get a fresh 12 hours. If you miss 2 picks you will be kicked out of the draft unless there has been fewer than 24 hours since your initial 12 hours expired. That means that if you do not show up within 36 hours of your pick you will be out and someone will assume control of your team, no questions asked. If you cannot make a pick, then PM someone with a list of players and they can select in your absence; this will not be counted against you even if this person is a "no show" for 36 hours as well. You might have to reveal a secret about your preferences to someone, but it is better than the alternative of getting kicked out. And frankly, it's not really a big deal. PM someone who will not be drafting between where the draft is now and your pick. Finally, I made a LOT of picks last year and never snipered one from anyone as far as I remember. I'm very willing to accept list PMs from people, although this year I'm probably not the best person most days, but I'll try my best.

We will do this for 18 rounds. You are required to have 2 goal keepers, but there are no other restrictions on how to make your squad. After we select our players you can do whatever you want to represent your formation, but this is really only relevant for the voting part of the competition. We will also DEFINITELY have FM this year, and probably FIFA as well, so please don't pick based on players you think others will like because this could spectacularly fail. Also, there's a pretty big contingent of knowledgeable voters, so if you pack your squad with Giggs and Scholes to win votes you're probably going to get dumped in the voting group stage when "casual voters" don't vote as much.

Winning:

Ahhh, now this is where it gets tricky. How the hell do you tell who won? Last year I thought the voting part went very good for the most part, and we will have that again. We will also DEFINITELY play a full season in a 20 team league in FM. In my personal opinion the FM competition is the most important, but if there is a voting, FM, and FIFA competition then you can place whatever importance on the competitions you want. I guess the best analogy I can give is that voting and FIFA (IN MY OPINION) are the Golden Globes and Screenwriters Guild Awards, and FM is the Oscars, but whatever.

It's really all pretty simple once we start. Don't be intimidated by the length of this post.

So that's all I have to say. Just starting this thread to get this year's competition off the ground. I might do the draft order in a week if everyone is still committed. One more thing is that I'm just going to outlaw trades this year because of problems last year. Maybe me and other participants don't think a trade is fair, but both parties involved do, so what to do... well this year I don't want to get involved at all. I want this as fair as possible, so just accept where your pick is and accept that you won't get everyone you want.

And that's it bitches...
 

Filipower

Bunburyist
Wow for a moment there I thought I was second. Then I saw your name in first and was about to call calciocaos. Then I saw it wasn't even the draw, only a list. I might start reading posts from the beginning.
 

kp41

Fan Favourite
thanks Shifty, looking forward to it.

Perhaps it would be a good idea if everyone find a pick buddy :) to avoid last year's long delay.
 
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Sir Calumn

Guest
The definition of balls would be to get first pick from the random generator and select Emile Heskey.
 

4ndr3i

SG's van Bommel
Nah, I wouldn't want to be first, just give me the no. 10 or 11 slot. Those are the great ones. (H)
 

yoyo913

Team Captain
I think being first or last would be great. Gives you the chance to make two consecutive picks, allows for better planning imo.
 
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Sir Calumn

Guest
yoyo913;3264893 said:
I think being first or last would be great. Gives you the chance to make two consecutive picks, allows for better planning imo.
I reckon it is a HUGE advantage to get in the top four or five picks, because if you get one of the "world elite" players (Ronaldo, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta etc) you are going to get A LOT of votes from people who just glance at the teams and pick the team with the big name.

Maybe less important for the FM stage where the team as a whole will be most important.
 
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Sir Calumn

Guest
Also I think the drafts 5th anniversary or whatever should be an "all time" draft where you can pick any players from history as they were at their best! Imagine how cool that would be, picking Cruyff and Zidane and Pele and Beckenbauer etc.......

Actually some time Shifty wants a break or we have a slow period in between drafts I might volunteer to run that, maybe just with 16 teams in EURO 2012 format and with only a voting stage of course.
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
Sir Sir_Didier_Drogba;3265154 said:
Also I think the drafts 5th anniversary or whatever should be an "all time" draft where you can pick any players from history as they were at their best! Imagine how cool that would be, picking Cruyff and Zidane and Pele and Beckenbauer etc.......

Actually some time Shifty wants a break or we have a slow period in between drafts I might volunteer to run that, maybe just with 16 teams in EURO 2012 format and with only a voting stage of course.

It's been mentioned before, but I personally don't care much for the idea. I'd participate, of course, but I think current players is more fun. However if you wanted to do this one winter it could be alright.

Also, don't assume too much about who the top picks are going to be. Iniesta went like 10th last year and 2nd in 2010.
 


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