The difference is that this guy is meant to be the next Totti. He is meant and prepared to be their main player and team captain. He and Totti both debuted at 16 year of age and are real products of the city of Roma. I can't imagine the kind of bash he will receive when he, as an AS Roma black captain, leading his team into the Olympico facing one of the most vicious fans in the world in the future. I can't imagine what kind of damage he would receive if he is not mentally prepared for it.pefan said:
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Stop The Racism... Fu*ker!
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According to a police report issued in May, elements of the far right are gaining a foothold among supporters of some of the liveliest Spanish football fan clubs, both in the first and second division. Apparently, a violent group of some twenty skinheads-some with criminal records-is intent on taking over the leadership of Frente Atlético, the fan club of Atlético de Madrid, which has approximately 5,000 members. Some of the group's leaders and members have been threatened, insulted or physically assaulted.
In September, the national commission against violence demanded that the Real Madrid football club institute a ban on the display of swastikas and other Nazi symbols in its stadium. Any such display could result in the club being fined between Pta. 250,000 and Pta. 1 million on the grounds that sporting laws prohibit the display of any kind of symbols that might incite violence. However, a few days later-following the decision of a court in Albacete to acquit the bearer of a swastika on the grounds that it is "not a forbidden symbol"-members of a far-right section of the Real Madrid fan club Ultra Sur (they spell it "Ultra SSur") known to have links to BB.AA. (see PARTIES, ORGANIZATIONS, MOVEMENTS), displayed some thirty flags bearing the swastika during a match in the Madrid stadium on 22 September.
Ultra Sur militants use the Madrid stadium as a meeting place where they plan their weekend attacks, distribute leaflets, give orders and collect information on potential victims. They even have a small storeroom in the stadium that doubles as an office where they keep their material. Lately, in an attempt to be less noticeable, they seem to have dropped the swastikas and taken up other, less well-known, emblems of the Third Reich instead, such as the skull used by the Nazi élite corps, or the red and gold flag used by Hitler's navy. They also routinely display the Celtic Cross, the BB.AA. initials and the two-headed eagle, a typically Spanish symbol first used by CEDADE and later taken up by BB.AA.
In a series of conferences on urban violence, Damián Sedano, a police expert in sport security, supported the criminalization of neo-Nazi skinheads, as in other European countries, although he conceded that the adoption of such a measure in Spain is unlikely in the near future. He stressed the "legal difference" between a Spanish neo-Nazi skinhead and, say, a German one; that is, the former is legal and the latter is illegal. Sedano also warned that, should all the Spanish skinhead football hooligans join ranks, it would not merely provoke the continuation of familiar disturbances following sports events, but could also "lead to a political formation capable of generating unforeseeable consequences".
http://www.axt.org.uk/antisem/archive/archive1/spain/
Spanish football fans should try and defend that! Theres no way because the facts are there! As shocking as this may seem it is a reality. It may be a slightly old article but it happens. Fans have calmed down a bit in Spain i will admit. But these people still exist.
In September, the national commission against violence demanded that the Real Madrid football club institute a ban on the display of swastikas and other Nazi symbols in its stadium. Any such display could result in the club being fined between Pta. 250,000 and Pta. 1 million on the grounds that sporting laws prohibit the display of any kind of symbols that might incite violence. However, a few days later-following the decision of a court in Albacete to acquit the bearer of a swastika on the grounds that it is "not a forbidden symbol"-members of a far-right section of the Real Madrid fan club Ultra Sur (they spell it "Ultra SSur") known to have links to BB.AA. (see PARTIES, ORGANIZATIONS, MOVEMENTS), displayed some thirty flags bearing the swastika during a match in the Madrid stadium on 22 September.
Ultra Sur militants use the Madrid stadium as a meeting place where they plan their weekend attacks, distribute leaflets, give orders and collect information on potential victims. They even have a small storeroom in the stadium that doubles as an office where they keep their material. Lately, in an attempt to be less noticeable, they seem to have dropped the swastikas and taken up other, less well-known, emblems of the Third Reich instead, such as the skull used by the Nazi élite corps, or the red and gold flag used by Hitler's navy. They also routinely display the Celtic Cross, the BB.AA. initials and the two-headed eagle, a typically Spanish symbol first used by CEDADE and later taken up by BB.AA.
In a series of conferences on urban violence, Damián Sedano, a police expert in sport security, supported the criminalization of neo-Nazi skinheads, as in other European countries, although he conceded that the adoption of such a measure in Spain is unlikely in the near future. He stressed the "legal difference" between a Spanish neo-Nazi skinhead and, say, a German one; that is, the former is legal and the latter is illegal. Sedano also warned that, should all the Spanish skinhead football hooligans join ranks, it would not merely provoke the continuation of familiar disturbances following sports events, but could also "lead to a political formation capable of generating unforeseeable consequences".
http://www.axt.org.uk/antisem/archive/archive1/spain/
Spanish football fans should try and defend that! Theres no way because the facts are there! As shocking as this may seem it is a reality. It may be a slightly old article but it happens. Fans have calmed down a bit in Spain i will admit. But these people still exist.
"Skinheads are only defending their own, and to defend their own means going against blacks, Jews, transvestites, reds, separatists, punks and other social dross." The court also found that transvestites, communists, separatists and punks were not among the groups protected by law and, furthermore, that "going against blacks, Jews . . . and other dross" did not constitute an incitement to commit a concrete crime but was, rather, a gen-eric threat.
Also taken from the same source.
Shocking but reality.
Also taken from the same source.
Shocking but reality.
pefan said:In September, the national commission against violence demanded that the Real Madrid football club institute a ban on the display of swastikas and other Nazi symbols in its stadium. Any such display could result in the club being fined between Pta. 250,000 and Pta. 1 million on the grounds that sporting laws prohibit the display of any kind of symbols that might incite violence. However, a few days later-following the decision of a court in Albacete to acquit the bearer of a swastika on the grounds that it is "not a forbidden symbol"-members of a far-right section of the Real Madrid fan club Ultra Sur (they spell it "Ultra SSur") known to have links to BB.AA. (see PARTIES, ORGANIZATIONS, MOVEMENTS), displayed some thirty flags bearing the swastika during a match in the Madrid stadium on 22 September.
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just to make it more ridicluous: 250.000 to 1milions pesetas were 1500 to 6000 euros ... imagine what it means to a club like like Real Madrid , or any other big club.
The problem exists and nobody can denny it.