Style Gameplay by Fifaccitiu (With Winter Transfers)

[dalb2k]

How is the feeling with this gameplay?

The gameplay feels good. Good pace and i like how i can change my speed of building up the game. Really realistic gameplay, especially the different playing style of the players makes this mod special.

I have to play more with different teams and formations to give you a detailed feedback, but this is what could be better:

-AV´s nearly never cross my midfielders. I will try to play a little with the slider settings.

-As a consequence of this, the game build up feels a little centric. Also because the central/defense midfielders like to run in the top, behind the defense. A little bit too much, for my opinion.

-CPU is a little too obsessed about ball position in the offense. Should sometimes take more risk in his action. CPU should use more crosses. Also the cpu is a little bit to playful. Too often he delays his game, by changing 4-5 times the direction, before he plays the obvious pass.

I´ve checked some individual tactics of some teams, and found that some settings are very strange and different to the past. For example Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund have exactly the same individual tactics, even though the have very different style of play. Maybe this could be the reason,....

I have to play more career, so i can maybe test some slider settings and adjust the individual tactics. Speaking of career,......any news for career files ?

 

[fifaCCitiu.com]

The gameplay feels good. Good pace and i like how i can change my speed of building up the game. Really realistic gameplay, especially the different playing style of the players makes this mod special.

I have to play more with different teams and formations to give you a detailed feedback, but this is what could be better:

-AV´s nearly never cross my midfielders. I will try to play a little with the slider settings.

-As a consequence of this, the game build up feels a little centric. Also because the central/defense midfielders like to run in the top, behind the defense. A little bit too much, for my opinion.

-CPU is a little too obsessed about ball position in the offense. Should sometimes take more risk in his action. CPU should use more crosses. Also the cpu is a little bit to playful. Too often he delays his game, by changing 4-5 times the direction, before he plays the obvious pass.

I´ve checked some individual tactics of some teams, and found that some settings are very strange and different to the past. For example Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund have exactly the same individual tactics, even though the have very different style of play. Maybe this could be the reason,....

I have to play more career, so i can maybe test some slider settings and adjust the individual tactics. Speaking of career,......any news for career files ?

Yeah about Borussia i've setted a wrong team style (ball possession) instead the right style (high pressing).

Then can you explain better this? "-AV´s nearly never cross my midfielders."

 

[dalb2k]

Yeah about Borussia i've setted a wrong team style (ball possession) instead the right style (high pressing).

ok, this makes sense. maybe u can give me your suggested settings for high pressing style?!

Then can you explain better this? "-AV´s nearly never cross my midfielders."

I dont know the exact word for this, but maybe following picture can explain better.

I want the fullback defender to move to the top, so he creates space for my midfielders. Especially for a ball posession team, this is essential, but happens to rarely. I think i will increase the sliders for the fullbacks.
This is what i mean, with game build up feels sometimes to centric. I want the fullbacks to do this more often and central midfielders a little bit less. When my central midfielders run in the top, and i loose the ball, im completely open in my defense.

Beside that, i really like your gameplay. Some results of todays game with 7 min. half-time length:

ME - CPU
FC Bayern - Dortmund 2:0
FC Bayern - Dortmund 5:2
FC Bayern - FC Arsenal 3:1
Brasil - France 2:2
France - Brasil 3:2

 

[fifaCCitiu.com]

ok, this makes sense. maybe u can give me your suggested settings for high pressing style?!



I dont know the exact word for this, but maybe following picture can explain better.

I want the fullback defender to move to the top, so he creates space for my midfielders. Especially for a ball posession team, this is essential, but happens to rarely. I think i will increase the sliders for the fullbacks.
This is what i mean, with game build up feels sometimes to centric. I want the fullbacks to do this more often and central midfielders a little bit less. When my central midfielders run in the top, and i loose the ball, im completely open in my defense.

Beside that, i really like your gameplay. Some results of todays game with 7 min. half-time length:

ME - CPU
FC Bayern - Dortmund 2:0
FC Bayern - Dortmund 5:2
FC Bayern - FC Arsenal 3:1
Brasil - France 2:2
France - Brasil 3:2

Yeah, understood, you have a good point here. I'm retweaking the styles to have less attcking work rate for defensive and support midfield, and better attacking work rate for fullback that over-run the respective midfielder.

A little description of the player styles and how they work is here, i took this page as a basis: http://www.guidetofootballmanager.c...instructions/choosing-roles#tactical-analysis

 

[dalb2k]

Yeah, understood, you have a good point here. I'm retweaking the styles to have less attcking work rate for defensive and support midfield, and better attacking work rate for fullback that over-run the respective midfielder.

Yeah, this would be great !

Honestly, i had my doubts about what you did with the acceleration and top speed of the players, but it does work well for me. It makes the players so much more individual.

Beside that support/attacking rate thing, im very satisfied with your gameplay.

A little description of the player styles and how they work is here, i took this page as a basis: http://www.guidetofootballmanager.c...instructions/choosing-roles#tactical-analysis

Thanks for sharing with me !

 

[Hijikata]

Hey Fifacitiu.
I tested your gameplay and it is great as always, much more harder now...

I still have a problem, every player has random shoes every game. When I check my db, I see that shoes in the 200' are assigned to players...
How could I fix this?

 

[dalb2k]

I´ve played career for one season and some things really need a fix:

.) Referee is messed up! I dont know, what you have done, but it was better before. CPU is always making little fouls, but as soon as i just touch him, i get a yellow card. It´s hard enough to defend with your gameplay, so this just drives one crazy. Especially players without the ball get blocked and shoved without consequence.

No red card for CPU in a complete season. (except of simulated games) Only 1-3 fouls per game for CPU.
One penalty for me in a complete season. At least 5-8 were not given.

.) Big players are way too fast. Like Ibrahimovic is with ball faster, then Lahm without
ball. Big players with high balance/strongness ratings, are pressing resistent.

.) CPU reaction time is ridiculous. He gets the second ball too often.
There´s always a second player who will go for the ball. On the other side, if i dont controll my players, they just stand there and dont move at all. Even if i call a second players. There must be much more aggressivity and movement.

I think this has much to do with the wrong Attacking/Defend working rate for so many players.

.) CPU offensive nearly never loose ball while dribbling. The only way CPU loose the ball, is a bad pass or because my defense worked well. It feels like he always make the right decision in 1on1. Should use more tricks too,......and not only change directions 5-6 times. Also too many good passes while turning. It´s like CPU has eyes in the back of the head.

.) CPU defenders are too good at crosses. He nearly always finds the striker waiting in the top. My defender is standing 3 meter away from him. Dont understand why?! Playing high pressure and offside trap, still the defender do this. He could easily put the striker in offside.

.) Corners are very hard, as CPU just push me away and i can do nothing about it.

.) Some teams with wrong individual tactics.

.) The few things, i´ve mentioned before. (growth for cpu players, transfer budget, tranfers in generally, youth players.....)

Dont take me wrong, still nice gameplay mode and many things you have done right.
The direction is the right one, but above mentioned things need adjustment in my point of view.

 

[fifaCCitiu.com]

Hey Fifacitiu.
I tested your gameplay and it is great as always, much more harder now...

I still have a problem, every player has random shoes every game. When I check my db, I see that shoes in the 200' are assigned to players...
How could I fix this?

I haven't touch boot assignment, maybe is a moddingway / revolution mod issue

 

[fifaCCitiu.com]

I´ve played career for one season and some things really need a fix:

.) Referee is messed up! I dont know, what you have done, but it was better before. CPU is always making little fouls, but as soon as i just touch him, i get a yellow card. It´s hard enough to defend with your gameplay, so this just drives one crazy. Especially players without the ball get blocked and shoved without consequence.

No red card for CPU in a complete season. (except of simulated games) Only 1-3 fouls per game for CPU.
One penalty for me in a complete season. At least 5-8 were not given.

.) Big players are way too fast. Like Ibrahimovic is with ball faster, then Lahm without
ball. Big players with high balance/strongness ratings, are pressing resistent.

.) CPU reaction time is ridiculous. He gets the second ball too often.
There´s always a second player who will go for the ball. On the other side, if i dont controll my players, they just stand there and dont move at all. Even if i call a second players. There must be much more aggressivity and movement.

I think this has much to do with the wrong Attacking/Defend working rate for so many players.

.) CPU offensive nearly never loose ball while dribbling. The only way CPU loose the ball, is a bad pass or because my defense worked well. It feels like he always make the right decision in 1on1. Should use more tricks too,......and not only change directions 5-6 times. Also too many good passes while turning. It´s like CPU has eyes in the back of the head.

.) CPU defenders are too good at crosses. He nearly always finds the striker waiting in the top. My defender is standing 3 meter away from him. Dont understand why?! Playing high pressure and offside trap, still the defender do this. He could easily put the striker in offside.

.) Corners are very hard, as CPU just push me away and i can do nothing about it.

.) Some teams with wrong individual tactics.

.) The few things, i´ve mentioned before. (growth for cpu players, transfer budget, tranfers in generally, youth players.....)

Dont take me wrong, still nice gameplay mode and many things you have done right.
The direction is the right one, but above mentioned things need adjustment in my point of view.

No no, feedback like yours are good, so i can check what i've to improve in next release, about referee carding is a matter of fifa 13 engine.

PS You play in legendary difficulty?

 

[dalb2k]

No no, feedback like yours are good, so i can check what i've to improve in next release, about referee carding is a matter of fifa 13 engine.

That the carding is bad is one side, but it´s like referee dont give foul for extreme use of body. Here i can give you two examples, happened in the same game:

For me a clear penalty. In previous version of gameplay, referee would rather call the penatly here. On the other side CPU gets penalty just for pulling or pushing him a little.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMjdWVghGYo

Here i think referee could also call penalty, but animation looks strange, so i dont really know. But exactly this happens too much. Strong players can push me away, as they want. What you can also see in this video is, that Müller on the right side, needs to much time, to run in the centre. I mean, he was keeping off the defender from centre, but he literally sticks on his position. Also strange, how his defender decided, not to go with him, instead of double me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V-5WkpnT9E

PS You play in legendary difficulty?

No, i play in wordclass, because of the cpu cheating in legendary.

 

[Hijikata]

It's ok Fifacitiu, I fixed the problem

Your gameplay is really good, as the others told. But it needs some updates.
About the referee, I've got as many fouls as the computer. The problem is about the yellow/red cards: I always have at least 2 yellow cards per game for a ridiculous foul while the CPU doesn't. Also, the referee say foul when there is not, you know when you make a great slide tackle and you touch the ball first, but the opponent falls and the referee say foul. It happened even without your gameplay, so I don't know if you can fix this though.

The other big point is defense. All goals that I concede is because of a wrong positioning of my players, like big big spaces. And I don't if you could do it but I would like to have the whole team defending (forwards too) as a block/unit instead of individual marking. I mean like the players defend together and attack together. Just like Bayern last year, Dortmund this year, or Barca from the old times (Pep team). The whole team is pressing but smartly, not like the whole is going on the ball and leave holes behind. I don't know if this can happen in Fifa though...

If you can fix those 2 issues, I think we would have a hell of a gameplay... But don't lose too much time with this, Fifa 14 is coming xD

I have another issue, my cmsettings does not work anymore, even when regenerating. I save my changes, I regenerate, but the game won't take the changes. I only have trouble with the cmettings, not the others...

PS: I play in legendary

 

[dalb2k]

The other big point is defense. All goals that I concede is because of a wrong positioning of my players, like big big spaces. And I don't if you could do it but I would like to have the whole team defending (forwards too) as a block/unit instead of individual marking. I mean like the players defend together and attack together. Just like Bayern last year, Dortmund this year, or Barca from the old times (Pep team). The whole team is pressing but smartly, not like the whole is going on the ball and leave holes behind. I don't know if this can happen in Fifa though...

Therefore you have to adjust the individual tactics a little bit. For example Fifaccitiu set a ball positioning tactic for BAYERN. I also had problems with very big spaces, so i put a higher pressing and more aggresivity.Works better for me.

I also had to change my style of play in defense a little bit. I used to work a lot with "call a second player", but meanwhile i try to fill the spaces and try to attack the ballleading player with second player.

The problem here is, in that moment i change the control to the other player, the player i´ve controlled before, just stops his action/running and need a moment to realize what his objective is.

 

[Serr77ano]

I hope it won't interfere with your mod.

 

[Proof983]

good mod

 

[grandegabi]

this works for the new moddingway 1.9.8? or some errors will be noticed?

 

[fifaCCitiu.com]

this works for the new moddingway 1.9.8? or some errors will be noticed?

Use the Gameplayzer 3 to make the moddingway db (the 5.db in moddingway directory of db) compatible with the gameplay

 

[grandegabi]

Use the Gameplayzer 3 to make the moddingway db (the 5.db in moddingway directory of db) compatible with the gameplay

Ok...but, isnt the 8.db the last update? why the 5.db? will still works with gameplayzed database 5.0 wich is the 8.db?

 

[ttlove17]

This 3.0 mod is really really good.
I remember your first gameplay and now when I look at this I think you brought the most realistic gameplay on FIFA flatform.
CPU possession and intense midfield battle and tough marking all that.
BTW I also noticed career mode player valuation is a bit off unlike real life football..
I know we have 14 coming in a month but I was wondering if you could make a change on that.
Really appreciate your work!

 

[mrgoldengun]

Use the Gameplayzer 3 to make the moddingway db (the 5.db in moddingway directory of db) compatible with the gameplay

I opened "FIFA 13 Moddingway Selector" and I only saw Database 2.0 - gameplayzed, Database 4.0 - gameplayzed, Database 5.0 - gameplayzed. Where is Database 3.0 - gameplayzed and why not use the Database 5.0 - gameplayzed instead of Database 3.0 - gameplayzed ?

 

[fifaCCitiu.com]

I'm work on gameplayzer 3.5, this will solve some bugs and will improve some others area of the game... (tanks dalb2k)

) Referee is messed up! I dont know, what you have done, but it was better before. CPU is always making little fouls, but as soon as i just touch him, i get a yellow card. It´s hard enough to defend with your gameplay, so this just drives one crazy. Especially players without the ball get blocked and shoved without consequence.
[COLOR="Red"]I'll restore referee severity, seems to work only on user and not on cpu, damn EA[/COLOR]

.)No red card for CPU in a complete season. (except of simulated games) Only 1-3 fouls per game for CPU. 
One penalty for me in a complete season. At least 5-8 were not given. 
[COLOR="red"]Same as above[/COLOR]
.) Big players are way too fast. Like Ibrahimovic is with ball faster, then Lahm without 
ball. Big players with high balance/strongness ratings, are pressing resistent. 
[COLOR="red"]Improved the algorithm for caluclating physicals value by height,weight and playing style (is not a easy task , but now it will be better)[/COLOR]
.) CPU reaction time is ridiculous. He gets the second ball too often.
There´s always a second player who will go for the ball. On the other side, if i dont controll my players, they just stand there and dont move at all. Even if i call a second players. There must be much more aggressivity and movement. 

I think this has much to do with the wrong Attacking/Defend working rate for so many players. 
[COLOR="red"]I've done some edits, defensive workrate are a bit high  now[/COLOR]
.) CPU offensive nearly never loose ball while dribbling. The only way CPU loose the ball, is a bad pass or because my defense worked well. It feels like he always make the right decision in 1on1. Should use more tricks too,......and not only change directions 5-6 times. Also too many good passes while turning. It´s like CPU has eyes in the back of the head.
[COLOR="red"]I don't think i can do so much here...[/COLOR]
.) CPU defenders are too good at crosses. He nearly always finds the striker waiting in the top. My defender is standing 3 meter away from him. Dont understand why?! Playing high pressure and offside trap, still the defender do this. He could easily put the striker in offside. 
[COLOR="red"]Intercept values are too high, now will be leveled[/COLOR]
.) Corners are very hard, as CPU just push me away and i can do nothing about it.
[COLOR="red"]I don't know hot to solve it, maybe i'll give forwards more jumping and strength[/COLOR]

.) Some teams with wrong individual tactics.
[COLOR="red"]I need your help to fund the right tactics for atleast top teams.[/COLOR]
.) The few things, i´ve mentioned before. (growth for cpu players, transfer budget, tranfers in generally, youth players.....)