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The 4-5-1 The killer of entertaining football?

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Dreath

Senior Squad
Lets face it. The 4-5-1 is killing entertaining football. Teams care more about not losing than winning. No-one is willing to take a risk anymore. What kind of entertainment is that? It seems to me that teams don't care about entertaining anymore, they forget that is what they're paid to do. Last year chelsea won the league playing (lets be honest here) apart from a few entertaining matches they were winning games 1-0. Juventus the same and Greece did it in Euro 2004. What happened to the time when attacking football that would get you off your seat and make you gasp would win you stuff. Arsenal a few years back did it, Brazil did it. But the 4-5-1. The evil of boring football is creeping in.

No longer is football a game where you play the ball around and score a great goal is praised. Now it's whethher you can pack the midfield and stop a team from crisp entertaining football. Now it's more important that you manage to play anti-football (Blackburn for instance). Has football becomce less important than the trophies assosiated with it?

I'm gonna rally a movement against boring football. Football should be stunning attacking football, scoring goals where every team member gets a touch, or a 40 yard drive after 3 1-2s in a row. Not hoofing the ball up the field hopnig your player manages to tap the ball in after kicking the defender in the bollocks and bouncing off his shin.
 
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Virgo

Guest
it's not about the system is the mentality of the team. Portugal and Holland (at least till the Euro) play 4x5x1, and they are among the most entertaining NTs.
 
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untouchable

Senior Squad
I agree fully with you. What happened to the swashbuckling Man Utd from the 90s? What happened to the team whose motto was "You score 3 we score 4"? Now it's all about being 'safe', being cautious. I hate what football is becoming and its all because of money. Money is the root of all evil, now that there's so much money in the game, results are tied to money, therefore teams do anything to get a result, so they can get money, so they can go to some rich, fat, old, ugly, impotent, greedy men.

Why do you think Man Utd vs Arsenal matches are probably the most exciting matches around? Constant, pulsating, nonstop action with quality football.
 
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Rob

Mourinho’s Assistant
Dreath said:
Lets face it. The 4-5-1 is killing entertaining football. Teams care more about not losing than winning. No-one is willing to take a risk anymore. What kind of entertainment is that? It seems to me that teams don't care about entertaining anymore, they forget that is what they're paid to do. Last year chelsea won the league playing (lets be honest here) apart from a few entertaining matches they were winning games 1-0. Juventus the same and Greece did it in Euro 2004. What happened to the time when attacking football that would get you off your seat and make you gasp would win you stuff. Arsenal a few years back did it, Brazil did it. But the 4-5-1. The evil of boring football is creeping in.

No longer is football a game where you play the ball around and score a great goal is praised. Now it's whethher you can pack the midfield and stop a team from crisp entertaining football. Now it's more important that you manage to play anti-football (Blackburn for instance). Has football becomce less important than the trophies assosiated with it?

I'm gonna rally a movement against boring football. Football should be stunning attacking football, scoring goals where every team member gets a touch, or a 40 yard drive after 3 1-2s in a row. Not hoofing the ball up the field hopnig your player manages to tap the ball in after kicking the defender in the bollocks and bouncing off his shin.
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You talk about boredom, and 1-0s being against the good of football.

Mind you have you heard of a chap called George Graham? He managed Arsenal once and was the king of boring. Just because you now have a few Frenchman playing 1 touch football does not give you a god gifted right to talk about entertainment and make stupid posts that disregard and defame the way other clubs play, esp. when you follow Arsenal of all clubs.

You only hate boring football because Chelsea is winning, never bothered an Arsenal fan when it was Arsenal playing boring? Aye? And you never heard Chelsea fans complaining about Arsenal being boring, did ya?

The most prolific killer of entertaining football was George Graham, he managed Arsenal.
 
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valioso

Fan Favourite
Barcelona uses a 4-5-1 or 4-2-3-1 as commonly used these days. you can play a 4-3-3, and play counter-attack and boring football as well..
 
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jani

Fan Favourite
Its not about the formation but the mentality itself.

2002/03 Milan played the Christmas tree and damn, that was champagne football.

AC Milan 1-0 Real Madrid at the San Siro was a masterclass of a game.
 
Zlatan

Zlatan

Fan Favourite
Every system can be defensive or attacking a 4-5-1 with two attacking mids and two wingers is quite offensive which makes it entertaining football in normal ways. 4-3-3 can be defensive aswell if you play a defensive mid instead of an attacking mid.

It depends on how it is played.
 
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IceBlu

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Vagegast

Banned for Life [He likes P. Diddy]
Virgo said:
it's not about the system is the mentality of the team. Portugal and Holland (at least till the Euro) play 4x5x1, and they are among the most entertaining NTs.
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Are you sure you've seen Holland play with five midfielders? It's a classic 4-3-3 with wingers that Holland play. Ruud may be our only striker but that doesn't mean we play a 4-5-1. Ruud plays on the same line as Robben and Kuijt on the wings. It's a 4-3-3 because our wingers add up to being forwards.

If you watch Chelsea, Robben is plays more near the midfield line because Mourinho never commits less than 10 men behind the ball when not in posession of the ball. It's efficient as **** but it hurts the eyes. Robben is the only reason I watch Chelsea, he's by far the most entertaining player on the damn team. Makelele is a great player but seriously, do you watch Chelsea because of his nice, clean tackles? To be clear, Chelsea isn't exactly killing football. Better examples: What did Benitez do during the semi-final of last year Champions League? What did Bolton do all season long?

Also, Italian teams aren't crowding the midfield, they're just playing with a defensive mindset. It's boring as hell but quite efficient.
 
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