The AC Milan Thread [2006/2007]

[jani]

dude Ive done that like once, the 4-0

meh, just cause Sheva leaves you aint gonna support Milan nemore? Man, come on....

 

[rony31]

it's not because of Sheva. I'm basically just sick of Italian football in general, too corrupt. and Milan are in the middle of all the corruption as well

 

[jani]

you are following the case through the English media, who know bull about the whole thing.

how are we corrupt? tell me what you understand of the case? I can explain further.

 

[Stephan_BEL]

I started supporting Milan back when they were in Serie B The new Milan fans are used to win and cry their eyes out if we don't win silverware in 2 years, pathetic.

In a way I hope we go back to Serie B, to seperate the men from the boys bye bye gloryhunters, I hear Chelsea has still some room...

And no we are not corrupt, or else the whole football world is, including the Fifa, UEFA and every other football federation in the world. I can come up with examples of blatant match fixings dating back from 1982 world cup in Spain till today, if needed with images and the whole chabang and only the fanatics or blind would deny there would be no cheating pattern.

Besides, if we are corrupt our system sucks monkey balls, we would have a lot more silverware in the closet right now and not be without anything for 2 years

Milan needs the real fans and players now, the ones that have red & black hearts, the rest may dispose.

 

[TheBlueBalla]

jesus, you guys are in meltdown and there hasnt even been a decision handed out. Loan your best players for one season, recall them next year, and youre back where you started, except everyone is a year older

 

[jani]

get real. why would top class players simply want to "go on loan". Its impossible.

Im quite confident that we arent gonna get relegated. But that shows Im really not prepared for it if it happens..


Some transfer news..

Massimo Donati looks to be back at Milan. The lad looks good. Was with us in the 2001/02 campaign and played a few games. I guess he's mature now. At 186 cm, I think he can be the "wall" we've been lacking for so long. Another to add if we go to B, I guess..

 

[TheBlueBalla]

get real. why would top class players simply want to "go on loan". Its impossible.

This coming from the guy who so confidently trupets that Kaka will be loaned out to Lyon in the coming weeks. Nice to see your confidence has evaporated and reality has set in

If your players really care about the club, and id say most of them do, then im sure its a price they would willingly pay. Its a good think your defense is older than dirt, because losing them doesnt kill you all that much.

 

[rony31]

heh, I love how I'm dubbed a glory hunter because I don't want to support a team that hasn't won anything in 2 years. dudes, I'd support Milan more if they were **** and got relegated to Serie B (through the league, not through punishment) than if they were to be found innocent and be rewarded the Scudetti for the last 2 seasons. it's not about the silverware. seriously I don't know how to explain it. leave me alone, assfaces

 

[jani]

Yeah, the Lyon thing was just to piss them Madridistas. haha. I dont want to think about anything. Lets just wait till Monday..

 

[TheBlueBalla]

Rony, im with you brother. I often feel VERY conflicted by the actions of the "new Chelsea". Tapping up, playing on the edge of the rules, the diving, etc. Just because we are winning everything in sight it doesnt excuse actions by my club and especially by Jose alot of times that I have to hang my head in shame over. I know too its extremely tough to see your club, who you know is good enough to win on calss and talent alone, have to resort to underhanded crap. Match fixing is a little different than mind games and simulation, but still

I find it funny how with alot of Chesea's "new" fans that come along, they attempt to be the most rabid and dogmatic. They will follow anything the club does blindly and scream "fu*k em all" when we are slagged by other fans and the media. You know I often argue against both of those, but dont forget it takes a real principled fan, one who you could say holds the badge to a higher degree of reverance than most, to feel so conflicted when it becomes tarnished.

Be strong dude, this too will pass

 

[Lean]

btw, Stephan, you gonna post here often? Good. I cant depend on rony and grunge. Those bastards never post

Lies. On the Kaká subject, well, he wont play in Serie B huh? Then we can loan him to some club and get him back once we gain promotion. I'm against it though. You either stay on the good and bad times, or you wont stay at all. Not playing for us in Serie B is running from the bad ones.

 

[sprada]

This has been my team since 1989, i would stay with the club until the end, it doesnt matter if it is on seria A or B.

 

[jani]

Kaká posted this on his blog

Minha vida, meu amor!

Amigos,

Hoje, tenho uma boa notícia para os meus fãs do Milan e tenho certeza de que também é para todos os que gostam de mim. Renovei meu contrato com o clube até 2011.
Isso me deixa muito feliz, pois é um clube que me recebeu muito bem e que eu aprendi a amar. Estou feliz em Milão, tenho um grande carinho pela torcida e ela por mim. Não conseguiria nesse momento ficar sem ouvir o San siro gritar meu nome.
Toda a negociação foi feita por meu pai e isso garantiu meu foco total e minha concentração na seleção. Sei que todos estão muito felizes e curiosos, mas eu só vou falar sobre meu dia de folga e sobre a grande vitória de ontem mais tarde.

Obrigado pela torcida e um grande abraço!!!!

http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Home/0,,6084,0.html


Translation

My Life, My Love!

Friends,

Today I have good news for my Milan fans and I'm sure also for everyone who likes me. I've renewed my contract with the club until 2011.

That makes me very happy, as it's a club that welcomed me and that I have learned to love. I'm happy in Milano, I have great affection for the fans and they feel the same for me. At this moment I couldn't give up listening to the San Siro screaming my name.

The whole negotiation was made by my father and that allowed me to focus totally on the National Team. I know that everyone is happy and curious, but I'll only talk about my day off and about yesterday's great victory later.

Thanks for the support and a big hug!!!!



I dont think he is leaving. Words like these are gold at these times. But remember the certain English student..? Meh..

 

[mex.popae]

Rony, im with you brother. I often feel VERY conflicted by the actions of the "new Chelsea". Tapping up, playing on the edge of the rules, the diving, etc. Just because we are winning everything in sight it doesnt excuse actions by my club and especially by Jose alot of times that I have to hang my head in shame over. I know too its extremely tough to see your club, who you know is good enough to win on calss and talent alone, have to resort to underhanded crap. Match fixing is a little different than mind games and simulation, but still

I find it funny how with alot of Chesea's "new" fans that come along, they attempt to be the most rabid and dogmatic. They will follow anything the club does blindly and scream "fu*k em all" when we are slagged by other fans and the media. You know I often argue against both of those, but dont forget it takes a real principled fan, one who you could say holds the badge to a higher degree of reverance than most, to feel so conflicted when it becomes tarnished.

Be strong dude, this too will pass

Wow, that is one really great post man. I am Madridista since 3 years ago, when I "discovered" European football... yes... the very same 3 years we have been silverless. Yet, during the 3 years I have learned to laugh and cry Madrid, and I have worn my jersey both when we beat Barca 4-2 and also when we lost 'em 3-0.

This phenomenon you talk about is pretty clear in my college in Mexico. Throughout the season, during important CL matches, everyone wears football jerseys. 4 years ago (when Madrid used to rule the world guided by Del Bosque), every CL match was white.

But now, what has happened now??? All is blue and red. Both Barca and Chelsea. For the "new" fans (the question is intrascendent for the old), where were you 5 years ago, when the Russian hadn't arrived? Also applies to Barca "new" fans... weren't you used to wear Madrid's white jersey at Barca's darkest our??? (Indeed it was dark, that van Gaal dude was... (fill the blank))...

Even though it is the most undesirable situation for any fan, it opens a window to see who is up to the challenge. To see who will continue buying season tickets even though those tickets are for Serie B matches. This "pouring" (if well written) phenomenon is remarkable and you guys, true Milanistas and Juventinos should be proud of being so, for the true fan true glory isn't the silverware per se, but the road to it. The road will be hard, but I'm pretty sure that 4/5 years max you'll be back in Europe's elite football.

Congratulations you all TRUE fans.

 

[TheBlueBalla]

I know what you mean dude. With European supporters in the New World and im sure in Asia, football blows whichever way the wind blows. I cant tell you the number of people ive gone up to in a footy kit to ask about their love for whatever team and they just stare blankly and say something like "oh yeah, Ronaldinho is so sick, dude". You know instantly they dont even care about football

When I was young, this is how I was. People asked which club I liked and I said Chelsea. I didnt know much except the games I had seen as a kid, a few players and what the shirt looked like. But when you begin to really care about a club, nothing else matters on saturday morning but that result. It will make or break your weekend. Its little things like this that not many people can relate to over here, the fact that the passion of a club is a hobby unlike any other, that make me treasure football and my club.

im sure EVERY non European can relate to this

 

[Stephan_BEL]

When I was young, this is how I was. People asked which club I liked and I said <fill in your club>. I didnt know much except the games I had seen as a kid, a few players and what the shirt looked like. But when you begin to really care about a club, nothing else matters on saturday morning but that result. It will make or break your weekend. Its little things like this that not many people can relate to over here, the fact that the passion of a club is a hobby unlike any other, that make me treasure football and my club.

This is incredibly well written. It describes exactly the feelings of a true club fan. One should stand by his club in good but especialy in bad times. You can compare it to life itself, when you're successful and handsome, you have many many friends. But when you're broke and average looking you can count your friends on one hand, but be sure that those friends are faithfull and those you can trust.

Concerning the rossoneri and the other trialed clubs I expect the sentence not to be as harsh as to meet the request of the prosecutor, I expect to contend for the title in Serie A again next year (if the point deduction penalty isn't too big that is), let's keep our fingers crossed, the first sentence is due this monday or tuesday normaly, then there will be possibility for one appeal.

 

[shrekiejai]

I think the penalty will be quite harsh.
It will be a show of force, to show that they are serious on the issue.
Failure to act and their credibility is shot. The Italian football scene is tarnished enough as it is, they cannot afford to be shown as weak to act.

And its probably one of the rare times where they can hit both Juventus and Milan in one go, so they won't be accused of favouritism.

I hope I am wrong (well except we need some players :P) ... because Serie A and CL will be poorer for the lack of Milan and Juventus.

Good Luck!

 

[Stephan_BEL]

I think the penalty will be quite harsh.
It will be a show of force, to show that they are serious on the issue.
Failure to act and their credibility is shot. The Italian football scene is tarnished enough as it is, they cannot afford to be shown as weak to act.

And its probably one of the rare times where they can hit both Juventus and Milan in one go, so they won't be accused of favouritism.

I hope I am wrong (well except we need some players :P) ... because Serie A and CL will be poorer for the lack of Milan and Juventus.

Good Luck!

If Italy brings the cup back home, it will influence the verdicts in a positive way, if France wins it might just be the contrary.

I think Juventus will be the "sacrificial scapegoat" as they have the most "evidence" or "feelings of possible guilt" against them, and of course Moggi not showing up in court doesn't help, so to make the example you refer to I think they will verdict them to go to Serie C in the first verdict, which will later be diminished to Serie B with point deductions in appeal.

Lazio and Fiorentina will face a Serie B verdict in the first verdict but will recieve Serie A + points penalisation in appeal.

As for Milan where they have the least "evidence" against, we are talking ONE phonecall on 49,000 recorded ones!

This phonecall goes out from Meani (the Milan referee contact) to a linesman taking one minute and 45 seconds total where Meani accuses the referees to disadvantage Milan vs. Juventus and he requests "better" linesmen to be assigned for future matches because Galliani is severely pissed of with the Siena-Milan result, a match were a perfect valid Sheva goal was annulated for imaginary off side and Siena scores two on blatant offsides (the "better" part is subject to interpretation and is what all the fuzz is about)

He also says he can get Galliani to offer a hair transplant to the linesman he is talking withon the phone (this, according to Meani, is a joke with the linesman they know each other over 20 years, and if you know Galliani or have seen his pic, you'll know that he is the one that could use a hair transplant, however the court could take this joke as an "offer of payment" to assign "better" linesmen to Milan)

I see Milan remaining in Seria A but with a hefty point deduction and no CL or UEFA qualification in the first verdict, in appeal I see them being qualified for at least UEFA cup football or the preliminary stages of the CL.

We'll see, let's hope the Azurri win now, else the judges will be in a (very) bad mood...

 

[Stephan_BEL]

K Italy won the cup, it will influence the judges somehow, sending World Champions to Serie B or C won't be appreciated I think.

BTW, RAI teletext says the judgement will be delivered wednesday. Appeals should be filed before the next monday.

 

[jani]

The verdicts are out latest on Wednesday.. Ahhh. I cant stand waiting anymore..


Latest rumour is Buffon. I am convinced if Juve are relegated and we stay up, he along with Zambrotta will come to us, no matter what the Spanish press claim.

What I, in a way, hope happens is that we help Juve out similiarly to how we helped Fiorentina a few years ago. Maybe we can do the loan thing and all.

Basically the Juve team now is not at fault, it was all Moggi. Its really unfair to the players and fans.