He didn't exactly win the ball cleanly, he essentially jumped on Vieira's back. And intentionally, or not, his studs were up.
But that's still no excuse for Vieira to kick out, or to attempt to kick out.
And what, you think Man Yoo are a team of hot male models. Oh Please, the topic is football, not how sexy you think the players are.
Which is why I said my first 'reason' was stupid.
At least "having no class" is better off than "sissies"
Let's just say that when the gloves are off, nobody would touch Roy Keane.
Is kicking Viera in the ribs considered "fair"?
I've looked at that picture quite a few times. Obviously, it's quite blurred but for me that's inconclusive. I was trying to look at the tautness of the shirt, and to see whether the area where van Nistelrooy's boot seemed to have contacted it made any difference, and I can't see the boot making any creases in the shirt, which must have happened if the boot had made contact. As I said, that was based on the picture which isn't the clearest in the world, but at this moment and time I'm not convinced.
He didn't engage in an air battle and he certainly wasn't the weaker of the two
You're right. He didn't. He set himself up and was doing an old defender's trick by backing into the jumping opponent. If done correctly, the opponent will lever off your back and fall onto the other side of you, potentially doing himself plenty of damage. I've done it enough times before.
Alex Fergie is a complete nutter. I was listening to a documentry of him today when he was managing in Scotland. Just beats Rangers in the Scotish Cup and he was angry and furious with his players. They won the title.
That is the sign of a true winner. Roy Keane was disgusted at some of his teammates who claim that they'll substitute everything else in their future career for this moment, after they had won the Treble. Both Ferguson and Keane hates complacency, as do I.
I loved his new version of 'I didn't see the incident though' lol
I was lost for words when I read that. He is either blind or very blind.
It's a known fact that it's difficult to see the truth at Old Trafford, look at Sir Alex, he actually believed he saw his team fighting back against Madrid, when all of us watching on tv saw the tie over in the first fifteen minutes.
Obviously not all, and I don't think I even have to explain why. But let's not forget United actually won the game at Old Trafford, and that's a fact.
And about the penalty, I have yet to see, hear, read anyone who thought it was clear cut.
I can agree to the fact that it wasn't clear cut. I think Forlan was definitely encroached in some form, but I've seen many of those not given.
Forlan isn't even looking at the ball, hahaha.
Forlan wasn't looking at the ball because the ball has just gone past him when he was trying to get it. During which Keown had contact with his back. I personally think Forlan was unlikely to get to the ball and if Keown had done nothing there would never have been a penalty. But the Arsenal man did have an arm on Forlan's back which was a slight error of judgement.
Nah....its his attitude,he's very inconsistant.He all ways loses the ball.
First of all, Phil Neville really isn't a 'hard-man'. In a proper fight I would probably take him to the cleaners.
Phil Neville is never a great user of the ball, but his industry is his strength. Most games he's anonymous, because he's doing things that you won't see on camera, such as tracking back, marking up, and now and then again you'll see him tackling. Every time he tackles he gives 100%, whether he's up against somebody smaller than him, or much bigger. That's the commitment everyone should have.
Not that most Man Utd fans will care, but Neville actually INJURED Dennis Bergkamp, who played fair the whole game.
And there I was thinking football was a non-contact sport. These things happen. It wasn't the greatest of tackles but at least one happen every game. I don't think there was any intent, it was just a cack tackle.
