No problem with the first half at all.......none at all......But the second half when Sven played the misfits............laughable.Still if this means goodbye to James,Hargreaves and well,Johnson still needs time to improve.....then this loss was worth it.Surely now Sven will admit that James is a joke........i'm gonna forget the second half even happened and think only of the first 45 minutes.Nice to see Rooney score though,and he also kept his cool when provoked,so thats a plus.
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The England National team thread
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Johnny_Big
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What the...?
Just saw now on eurosport.com, that england got completely dominated by a Denmark in risk of not qualifying...O_O
I wanna see that first goal, looks like D.James made crap again. I am sure that if David James hasn't done that, the game wouldn't go like this. And I always said, and I keep saying...D.James is just "gaffes". Reminds me of Portugal's Ricardo sometimes...makes a great game...the next games does sh*t.
With Gerrard, Owen, Rooney, Beckham, Terry...and lose 4-1? Not saying Denmark plays crap, cause they are a good team (showed it on Euro 2004). But with those players, England has to do better.
Just saw now on eurosport.com, that england got completely dominated by a Denmark in risk of not qualifying...O_O
I wanna see that first goal, looks like D.James made crap again. I am sure that if David James hasn't done that, the game wouldn't go like this. And I always said, and I keep saying...D.James is just "gaffes". Reminds me of Portugal's Ricardo sometimes...makes a great game...the next games does sh*t.
With Gerrard, Owen, Rooney, Beckham, Terry...and lose 4-1? Not saying Denmark plays crap, cause they are a good team (showed it on Euro 2004). But with those players, England has to do better.
the solid players were taken off at half time so this is down to the misfits....James/Johnson and Hargreaves.They spread a feeling of uncertainty through the rest of the team.Still no more James so its not all bad.I quite enjoyed it really.....I think its really big of us to let Denmark win so big, to boost their confidence before they have to play Turkey in the qualifiers.............. 
TheBlueBalla
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What about LeGuien? I know it might rub many an Englishman the wrong way having a Frenchman coach the NT, but the guy was good, said he was moving to a new club, and then I never heard about him signing anywhere.Dazmania said:Allardyce for England Coach!
Anyway, if I can take two things from this match:
1. Its clear that Johnson is not an international calibre defender, but while he has put the odd solid performance in for Chelsea, its clear the guy just doesnt have the requisite defensive ability to be a rightback. I was hoping before Wright-Phillips was signed that he would be used in a few meaningless games as a fourth winger, as he is very dangerous going forward, but that wasnt to be, and for England he would be wasted in such a position.
2. Paul Robinson should be England's number one keeper, without question. Why he would use james is just as obtuse as using someone as unremarkable and average as Owen Hargreaves in place of a developing international for whose talent the sky is the limit. Oh wait...
By the way, I read a quick 606 comment that said something like "Its clear that Sven needs to decide between Lampard and Gerrard". Was either of them unusually bad/out of place?
Bah, that was pathetic. If the FA doesnt fire him now, then Im pretty sure the job is his for life.
TheBlueBalla
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:fool:
Heh, yah, so I figured: still, I think the guy has to be on his way out, and the lure of coaching England must be something very few club managers would pass up. The question is, who could actually get this squad to perform to the level it should. Most English managers in the game today are fairly unremarkable, so I think another foreigner would be the way to go, but to get a really good coach, the FA would probably have to do like Australia did with Hiddink and let someone part time between club and country....though I dont think the FA would ever be so desperate as to resort to that.
Heh, yah, so I figured: still, I think the guy has to be on his way out, and the lure of coaching England must be something very few club managers would pass up. The question is, who could actually get this squad to perform to the level it should. Most English managers in the game today are fairly unremarkable, so I think another foreigner would be the way to go, but to get a really good coach, the FA would probably have to do like Australia did with Hiddink and let someone part time between club and country....though I dont think the FA would ever be so desperate as to resort to that.
they wont fire him this close to a world cup.Anyway lets keep this is context.This was a meaningless FRIENDLY.All our friendlies are crap games because we never keep the same team on the pitch for both halves,whereas the opposition do.It is entirely meaningless as everyone knows.The English media will make a meal of it but to be honest i couldn't give a s.h.i.t about it.The whole point of playing friendlies is to take a look at players and systems and combinations of certain players,so as to evaluate said players and player combinations.The problem with all National teams when they play a friendly with England is that they always gotta treat it like a WC final.Why?Because a teams progress is measured on how well they can do against England Nobody likes to lose a game but i shouldn't think the players or Sven are that cut up about it.In the scheme of things it really means f.u.c.k all.How some dumbasses even think this is a blip to Englands World Cup campaign shows how dumb their asses are.Denmark have beaten us 3 times.All in friendlies,never in competition.The last time we played them in a serious game we whupped them 3-0,in the WC 2002.sure its nice for the Danes but in competition it just aint gonna happen........... 
i can't believe a professional keeper said thatHaha, another one of those James' excuses.ngyc said:
Can't believe that wanker Brian complained and ridiculed on Smith's decision to play in the United reserve game, this game is crap, useless and was ridiculously **** for england, United's reserve game looked more important than this friendly.
I don't post much in this section, and I'm not going to comment on the England-Denmark game. I just found some interesting news, from an Argentine newspaper and I thought I'd share because I haven't seen it reported anywhere else.
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2005/08/17/um/m-1035408.htm
The story says Argentina has agreed to play a friendly against England on the 12th of November in Zurich, Switzerland. The game is contingent on England's qualification to the WC. Should England not be qualified by the date of the game, another opponent will fill in for them.
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2005/08/17/um/m-1035408.htm
The story says Argentina has agreed to play a friendly against England on the 12th of November in Zurich, Switzerland. The game is contingent on England's qualification to the WC. Should England not be qualified by the date of the game, another opponent will fill in for them.
Cool so Heinze and possible Gaz, Becks, Rooney and Smith are coming to Switzerland - in that case I'm going to attend the game no matter what.
ETA:
I just got a mail stating that if England has NOT to go to the play offs they'll play a friendly on the 12th Nov - no opposition has been selected....
to Switzerland - in that case I'm going to attend the game no matter what.ETA:
I just got a mail stating that if England has NOT to go to the play offs they'll play a friendly on the 12th Nov - no opposition has been selected....
Great that James had a bad game - last time he did that for England, he followed it up with a stunning performance for CITY! 
He isn't a bad keeper, it just seems that he lacks some consistency for England, but then outside of Cech and van Der Saar I can't think of any keeper in the premier league who is safe hands...
He isn't a bad keeper, it just seems that he lacks some consistency for England, but then outside of Cech and van Der Saar I can't think of any keeper in the premier league who is safe hands...
Internazionale
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I don't like David James. He didn't perform well in the big stage (EURO 2004). Eriksson should drop him the next time England play in a friendly match.