The English Premier League Discussion Thread

[Xifio]

not a fan of B teams playing in lower divisions, especially if they would be excluded from the tier just below top flight football ...

reserve teams + spots in the Cup competition (like they used to do in Holland) is a much better model ...

 

[Mandieta6]

As a supporter of a big club I want B-teams that can play in the CL.

 

[Bobby]

If I got relegated I'd try to buy a B-team's spot in the league.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Why? Do you have an article?

Series of Honigstein tweets:

Re Dyke: Bundesliga clubs are currently moving away from B teams (seen as too expensive) and towards the loan-system....

BL 1 & 2 clubs had to have B teams but this requirement no longer in force next season.

B teams are U23 and cannot be promoted to BL 2. But gap between 3rd divi and top flight now seen as too big, very little benefit...

It looks as if most BL clubs will cease operating B team over the next few years

B teams: comes down to size of club. If you're Bayern, Dortmund etc you don't care. Much more diff for mid-table and 2nd divi clubs

If you want more background on B teams in Germany, read this excellent Uli Hesse piece: http://www.espnfc.com/blog/_/name/bundesliga/id/647?cc=5739 …

He also retweeted this:

@honigstein Plus B teams have nearly killed the leagues below the 3rd division.

 

[Xifio]

As a supporter of a big club I want B-teams that can play in the CL.

Vitesse almost made it ...

 

[Mandieta6]

They'll make it next year. We need one of Mou's disciples to take over there. Rodgers would be nice, he can choke on the title so long as he gets 2nd.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Mou disciple? Vilas Boas will probably be available next summer.

 

[Mandieta6]

I don't want someone who will need to be sacked after 6 months.

 

[Bobby]

John Terry.

 

[Mus]

Vitesse almost made it ...

They'll make it next year. We need one of Mou's disciples to take over there. Rodgers would be nice, he can choke on the title so long as he gets 2nd.

Chelsea blocked vitesse of qualification

 

[Mandieta6]

That makes no sense, we WNT them to qualify, it's better for us. Piazon's drop in form was shocking, though.

 

[Mus]

That makes no sense, we WNT them to qualify, it's better for us. Piazon's drop in form was shocking, though.

No you don't, or else they and the next lot over there would be cup tied next season if you need to recall them for any reason

 

[yoyo913]

How often does that happen though?

 

[Mandieta6]

We never recall any of Vitesse's players. We never recall ANYONE on-loan. We want to give our players a full year of consistent playing time and if they play CL they play at a higher level. Why would we risk Vitesse's long-term future, as well as the future of dozens of our players, on the off-chance that someone who we send to Vitesse (rather than a better league) we might want to recall, which has never happened. Your logic is so fault I'm shocked the username is Mus rather than Xaviesta.

Besides, don't Europa players get cup-tied for the CL, too?

 

[Mus]

You can transfer one Europa player, anyway it wasn't my idea - Chelsea are under investigation for it, they will get away with it though guilty or innocent but, it's not Italy

 

[Mandieta6]

Chelsea are being investigated for the overall relationship with Vitesse, not for telling them to lose matches. It simply makes no sense for us to want them to lose. If Vitesse win the title we can offer our youth players CL minutes, playing time and titles as they develop and that is our aim. The higher the level Vitesse play in, the better equipped they are at improving our players.

 

[Mus]

It doesn't fully make sense, but neither did anything from calciopoli - and I just want to see an English club go down

 

[Pogba4Now]

I congratulate City for winning the league and thank that Sheikh from Abu Dhabi for preventing Liverpool from winning the EPL.

Can't believe I'd ever be so happy for City to win the EPL. I was backing Chelsea though but they've been useless, especially with their sorry "strikers".

 

[Mus]

A massive congratulations to Manchester City for winning their 2nd title in 3 years. I may be speaking out of genuine hate but the only reason that City have gotten into the top four, let alone, won two championships is because they did not work hard to get to where they are today, I'm talking of course about getting a rich owner to buy success.

I think football club owners have the fantasy football team mentality, all for the sake of making money. They haven't worked as hard as Arsenal, United and Liverpool because of the simple fact that they've brought in a owner with a lot of money and have literally bought a superstar team, which in my opinion, is another form of cheating. Yes clubs with owners, have bought players over the years, but not as much as City and Chelsea have.

Clubs like Arsenal, Liverpool and United have gotten to where they are because they have worked hard over the years. The way you actually earn a trophy is to work hard, the theory of getting a billionaire to buy out your club and buy superstars is not what I call, hard work and furthermore promotes a bad ethos that if your club is lingering in mid table mediocrity, all you have to do is get a billionaire to take over the club, Chelsea being the original bad influence back in 2003.

I might be speaking out of jealousy and or frustration, and I know it makes the league far more exciting and unpredictable but it doesn't set out a good president.

I believe a for a club to be great they should be owned by the supporters and the club establishes great foundations and all assets from the club should be attained through gate receipts, sponsorships and TV rights. That income should be put into buying new players, improving stadia, training facilities and not be a quick fix by a billionaire owner.

As much as City have fought hard to win this trophy, it could be said that if they had never been taken over by a rich owner, they would still be lingering in mid table and the glory of winning a league title would not be stolen from clubs that are funded by rich owners. If you have an owner that makes the club better than it was before, in my opinion, without piling debt onto the club and a fantasy football quick fix mentality, then you are buying your trophies, not earning them.

You can say what you want, but that is my opinion. You are denying glory to those in history books, who could have actually won trophies without a rich owner.

As much as I didn't want Liverpool to win it, I think they have conducted their club in the right and proper way. They have owners but they do not use their wealth to buy a fantasy football team ergo, buy success. To me, all of City's recent trophies are plastic.

they stole from noone, they deserve it more than the other teams, especially teams that have won it in the past, are only 4 clubs allowed to win the title?

 

[Mus]

Tottenham or Everton have never even gotten close to the points total to win a league, it's not like they came second or third to Chelsea and City