*THE FINAL* SG's Favourite Actor - JOHNNY DEPP or Carlos NICHOLSON?

[ShiftyPowers]

im sorry, am i just blind, or does anyone else think Mars Attacks! should never be used to back up any actors credentials?

I definitely agree with you. I think it came out when I was like 13, so the only memorable thing for me was Natalie Portman.

 

[Callan]

Nope. Never even heard of them. Don't ask me why. I love a good movie and I got a nice dvd collection too, but the only movie I've seen with Carlos is The Shining, which is awesome. I saw batman once, but I was a kid back then so I don't remember it.

So don't say "I don't know why people vote for Carlos" and state that his last great role was "the Shining" when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Write something like, "I voted for Depp because I have only seen one film with Carlos in it". That to most people would be a fair enough reason as to why you voted for Depp. You should think before you post dude.

 

[Sir Calumn]

Depp is great, and consequently will become one of the great actors of our generation, but please don't compare him to Carlos. That guy alone made me go see "The Departed", and love it. With Depp, I have not seen some of his latest works, and I don't think I will anytime soon.

I'm actually the opposite. I love Carlos, but when I saw him in the Anger Management or Something's Gotta Give trailers, he didnt entice me to to see the movies but majorly put me off them. Yes, he was the main draw towards the Departed, but to be honest I would have seen it just because it had a cool trailer and was a Scorsese movie - the only reason Carlos was such a draw is because I am not abig fan of Damon or DiCaprio and thus would have been worried about the quality of the cast had he not been there. Depp on the other had is enough to draw me into ANY film - if I see Johnny Depp's name on the poster, I see the movie. I'm guessing it's because we're witnessing him in his prime, during the early days of DeNiro or Pacino or Newman or Nicholson I would have felt exactly the same about them, but at the moment he is probably the actor with the single biggest draw for me

I honestly think this is a great final - the greatest actor of all time vs the greatest actor of out generation - and even though Carlos is comfortably ahead, Depp has a sizeable count. I dont think anyone else would have got as many against Carlos, based on his performance in previous rounds.

 

[Yossarian]

I'd actually write a huge ass post, ranting about your utterly annoying, piss poor uninformed opinions, if I could be arsed.

As you wouldn't understand half of it anyway I'll just say YOU SUCK and move on to something more productive.

Thank you for your attention, you can go back to sucking David Lynch's c*ck now.

Quoted for truth and more truth.

 

[Yossarian]

because I am not abig fan of Damon or DiCaprio and thus would have been worried about the quality of the cast .

They're two of the better young actors around, I'm curious as to why you don't like them? Damon is probably one of the best supporting actors at the moment, capable of making himself fit seemlessly into just about any role and succeed at it, and Leo hasn't stepped in many landmines that you'd expect 'em to since he shook off his teen idol image .......much akin to Depp in his very astute and careful selection of roles, man. I see a great parallel between their careers.

 

[Sir Calumn]

They're two of the better young actors around, I'm curious as to why you don't like them? Damon is probably one of the best supporting actors at the moment, capable of making himself fit seemlessly into just about any role and succeed at it, and Leo hasn't stepped in many landmines that you'd expect 'em to since he shook off his teen idol image .......much akin to Depp in his very astute and careful selection of roles, man. I see a great parallel between their careers.

Actually I am warming to DiCaprio more and more as his career develops, especially under Scorsese. When they first worked together on GONY, I was surprised at Scorsese's choice and, although he did get a decent performance out of DiCaprio, I wasnt particularly impressed - for such a down to earth and grubby character, he really didnt shake the prettyboy image. The Aviator was the next step forward, DiCaprio was again much improved and put in a good performance, but still I felt like I was watching Leonardo DiCaprio rather than Howard Hughes, and there were other aspects of the film which let it down also. However, in The Departed, for the first time I feel that DiCaprio has really gone from being a movie star to a great actor - he genuinely fulfils the hardman role very well for the first time and is extremely watchable, bringing real depth to his character. I doubt anyone would have done that so well, but dont forget that I hadnt seen the film before making my decision whether or not to see it Anyway, my opinion of him is vastly increasing I think he has now changed from being a put off to being a draw.

Damon on the other hand, I just dont like him. I dont find him to be a very talented actor, I dont find him watchable, to me he just looks, how should I put it, goofy. I really didnt like him in the Bourne movies, he was quite good in the Talented Mister Ripley because it required a character like him, but I actually felt that he was the worst thing in the Departed by a long way. Apparently, Brad Pitt was originally signed on to play the role of Sullivan and I cant help feel how much better the movie would have been with him rather than Damon. I dont find Damon convincing in a hardman role, nor as a romantic lead or a particularly deep character. I also totally disagree about him fitting seemlessly into any role - to me his face is so distinctive that he sticks out like a sore thumb in every single film. I recently saw the trailer for DeNiro's new movie, the Good Shepherd, for the first time and really liked the look of it, all except for Matt Damon. He has majorly dampened my desire to see that movie which is a shame because I bet it will be otherwise good. Neither have I seen any level of improvement as his career has gone on - I just dont like watching him and do not think he is very talented.

However, I must add that for him to have been cast by the likes of Scorsese, DeNiro, Greengrass, Gilliam, Soderbergh, Spielberg etc shows that I am probably in a minority.

 

[Virgo]

I definitely rate Damon higher than DiCaprio. DiCaprio just whines too much in every movie for my liking.

Damon has shown that he's capable of delivering very good performances although he hasn't given a masterful one. He even overshadowed someone like Ed Norton in Rounders for instance. On top of that he's a very talented screenwriter.

No talent pretty boys for me are the likes of Ashton Kutcher or Josh Harnett.

 

[Yossarian]

Damon on the other hand, I just dont like him. I dont find him to be a very talented actor, I dont find him watchable, to me he just looks, how should I put it, goofy. I really didnt like him in the Bourne movies, he was quite good in the Talented Mister Ripley because it required a character like him, but I actually felt that he was the worst thing in the Departed by a long way. Apparently, Brad Pitt was originally signed on to play the role of Sullivan and I cant help feel how much better the movie would have been with him rather than Damon. I dont find Damon convincing in a hardman role, nor as a romantic lead or a particularly deep character. I also totally disagree about him fitting seemlessly into any role - to me his face is so distinctive that he sticks out like a sore thumb in every single film. I recently saw the trailer for DeNiro's new movie, the Good Shepherd, for the first time and really liked the look of it, all except for Matt Damon. He has majorly dampened my desire to see that movie which is a shame because I bet it will be otherwise good. Neither have I seen any level of improvement as his career has gone on - I just dont like watching him and do not think he is very talented.

However, I must add that for him to have been cast by the likes of Scorsese, DeNiro, Greengrass, Gilliam, Soderbergh, Spielberg etc shows that I am probably in a minority.

hmm.....I really dig 'em both and consider them to be near the upper echelon of their profession (age wise) interms of ability and work produced at the moment. It's pretty weird that you're this bugged and turned off about his looks and that you're unable to allow yourself to separate his "goofy" features (LOL) from his acting chops, because, to be so turned off by someone's outlook appearance from just a ******* trailer is a strong level of intolerance and annoyance, man.


I'm really astonished and shocked that you feel that Pitt could've played the Sullivan character from The Departed any better than Damon did and believe that he was the weakest link of that all-star cast...........I couldn't disagree with those sentiments of yours more vehemently, man. I thought that not only was he dead on and outstanding in his portrayal, but also Oscar worthy. I just can't fathom in the slightest how that role could've been improved on by any other contemporary actor going right now, man. He couldn've been more brilliant and compelling, man. His most seminal acting job so far in my opinion.

I've really gotta get a consensus on his performance from those who have seen the movie, man. Because I'm seriously WTF-ed by your assessment, man.


He's been charming, intelligent, witty, believable and versatile in his roles as the punk anti-semite in School Ties, the very intelligent but newbie lawyer in Coppola's Rainmaker, the ambitionless math genius kid in Good Will Hunting, the snake bitten degenerate gambler in Rounders, the lost angel in Dogma, the envious, bittered and malicious psychopath in The Talented Mr. Ripley, the oil expert in Syriana, the amnesia stricken agent on the run in the Bourne Identity.........honestly, it seems as though we're talking about two completely different people here. I see a very consummate and fluid actor who's dedicated and tireless in his pursuit of great roles. I can't remember of a single part where he's been weak and poor to the point of ruining a movie for me, man. He's about as consistently solid, if not excellent, an actor at the moment that I can think of.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Yeah, I agree Yoss, Matt Damon is one of the better actors out there and I enjoy his movies probably more than anyone else out there right now. I also hold him in a high regard as an actor, although I think DiCaprio is a little better. I think as far as acting talent goes, DiCaprio was just born to act, he's phenomenal.

I also think Sir_Didier_Drogba must have Ben Affleck and Matt Damon completely confused. I don't even think he looks goofy, I think he's a pretty charismatic and attractive (in a non-gay way) guy. I just can't relate to anything you say about him.

You really go to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory because of Depp and ignore the Bourne Movies? Dude, seriously.

 

[Yossarian]

Well put, bro.

 

[nird]

So don't say "I don't know why people vote for Carlos" and state that his last great role was "the Shining" when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Write something like, "I voted for Depp because I have only seen one film with Carlos in it". That to most people would be a fair enough reason as to why you voted for Depp. You should think before you post dude.

Am I not allowed to ask why people voted for Carlos? And I didn't state that his last great role was the shining, I asked if his last great role was the shining.

And at the end I say: or perhaps I'm just blind?

Now, I seems to me like in my post I already state that I there is a good chance I have no idea what I'm talking about. So, to get a clue, I asked.

And my gift to you:

I voted for Depp because I have only seen one film with Carlos in it.

 

[Sir Calumn]

Yeah, I agree Yoss, Matt Damon is one of the better actors out there and I enjoy his movies probably more than anyone else out there right now. I also hold him in a high regard as an actor, although I think DiCaprio is a little better. I think as far as acting talent goes, DiCaprio was just born to act, he's phenomenal.

I also think Sir_Didier_Drogba must have Ben Affleck and Matt Damon completely confused. I don't even think he looks goofy, I think he's a pretty charismatic and attractive (in a non-gay way) guy. I just can't relate to anything you say about him.

You really go to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory because of Depp and ignore the Bourne Movies? Dude, seriously.

Well, I didnt ingore the Bourne movies because I wasnt really all that aware of Damon before I saw them, and I will still see the third one for the sake of completion, but Damon would in no way be an inticement to that. And yes, I did see Charlie and the Chocolate Factory pretty much exclusively because Depp was in it, and because it was by Tim Burton. I dont really like kids films so it needed something like this to draw me in.

What Yossarian said about me judging him by his looks is wrong, all the problems I have with him as an actor are as much reflected by his ability and his style than by his looks. I'm not confusing him with Ben Affleck, Ben is a far worse actor of course, but everyone knows that, atleast until Hollywoodland proves us wrong as it apparantly will. Matt isnt as bad as guys like that, but he is still, in my opinion, no where near the standard that many people rate him and no where near good enough to deserve all the great parts he's been getting.

And I totally stand by the fact that Brad Pitt, atleast the Pitt of a few years ago if not the Pitt of today, would have done a far better job of Sullivan than Damon. DiCaprio so totally outshone him that I cant believe you guys even think Damon's was the oscar worthy performance. He didnt look right, he didnt play it right and was without doubt the weak link in the film, in my opinion, which as I already said probably puts me in the minority.

 

[Callan]

I don't really think Matt Damon is a great actor. Everything I have seen him in I have completely disliked. DiCaprio on the other hand I think is fantastic and I am glad that he is taking the roles that he has. I have liked most of his films and in my opinion he is a better actor than Matt Damon.

 

[Sir Calumn]

Carlos Nicholson wins by a clear margin in the end, though Deep put up a decent fight, was neck and neck at one point. Deserved winner