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The Official Manchester United Thread [2006/2007]
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Essien was denied a work permit and United released him back to Lyon. Henry was a so-so winger at Monaco and struggled at Juventus. I hate giving Wenger credit, but it was he who freed Henry's potential and allowed him to play as a striker for Arsenal - like the way Portugal use Ronaldo sometimes. At the time Henry was breaking through at Monaco, United already had one of the best midfields in the world in Giggs,Keane,Scholes,Beckham - backed up by Blomqvist, Butt, Phil Neville etc. As a winger he wasn't that attractive to them.
If he had come to United, I doubt he would ever have improved so much as he did at Arsenal as he would have probably been restricted to the wing. IMO.
Mike
If he had come to United, I doubt he would ever have improved so much as he did at Arsenal as he would have probably been restricted to the wing. IMO.
Mike
A funny thing happened today during Madonna's concert at the Amsterdam Arena, I was standing next to Abramovich and he greated me, he hired one of the skyboxes together with his family
Other news: There's a big chance that Trezeguet will be joining us in January and Senna has extended his contract till 2010
Other news: There's a big chance that Trezeguet will be joining us in January and Senna has extended his contract till 2010
Nah man, I didn't want to bother him. But he was hard to notice, it took a while for me to recognize him, he isn't as flashy as you would expect from someone with that kind of money. His bodyguard was everywhere even when his daughter had to go to the bathroom the bodyguard waited infront of the toiletdoor and gave the people (including us) a scary face. But is was funny though you don't see a billionaire every day
AlienSeafood
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hows his daughter? 
jefferson goh
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Why didnt you ask him to treat u dinner?? since he is so so rich.. LOL
I ruled out United move - Mascherano
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1778_1473561,00.html
veron
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1778_1473561,00.html
veron
d3adly said:I ruled out United move - Mascherano
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1778_1473561,00.html
veron
It's nonsense, Fergie doesn't like Argies? Then what about Heinze? That's bollocks, things the media try to do lately to get a story?
SlowSilver
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"Veron has different stories" 
It seems he 'wants' to believe Veron. Heinze has been nothing but successful, but yet he is listening to what Veron said? Exactly what has happened to Veron? Since he has gone back to Italy, he hasn't exactly set the world alight. But yet he's taking advice off that clown?
Right. It doesn't really make sense to me, it most probably is media bullsh*t....again.
It seems he 'wants' to believe Veron. Heinze has been nothing but successful, but yet he is listening to what Veron said? Exactly what has happened to Veron? Since he has gone back to Italy, he hasn't exactly set the world alight. But yet he's taking advice off that clown?Right.
It doesn't really make sense to me, it most probably is media bullsh*t....again.CarlosDanger
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Veron is back in Argentina now.....talk about rapid decline...
Torres has also signed a new deal
Good read about the whole Tevez/Mascherano situation
http://www.redcafe.net/showthread.php?t=127269
Good read about the whole Tevez/Mascherano situation
http://www.redcafe.net/showthread.php?t=127269
FERGIE SLAMS UNITED FANS
http://www.redissue.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=296634
It seems he’s getting more than a little confused in his old age.
Speaking in `The Official Manchester United Diary of the Season,' (a bargain £16.99 to relive the nightmare of last year!) the supposed Socialist Ferguson questions United supporters’ audacity in wanting a say in how the club is run. On the successful blocking of the Sky takeover back in 1999:
"They (the fans) felt they were responsible for stopping the BSkyB deal, which is not true. Absolutely not. They may have made their voice heard but they were not responsible. It was the Monopolies and Mergers Commission (MMC) that stopped that.
"They carried on to the degree where they actually thought they should have a say in the running of the football club."
Just imagine that! The people who pay his wages wanting input into the running of THEIR club! Meanwhile, his comments on the MMC fly in the face of the MMC’s own acknowledgment at the time of the role the fans played in the blocking of the takeover. And it all sort of ignores the fact that Ferguson was in regular contact with – offering support – to those who were fighting the Sky takeover, but sadly he didn’t have the balls to come out and say so publicly.
Meanwhile Ferguson has more criticism in the same book:
"I'm sorry about that [the formation of FC United]. It is a bit sad that part, but I wonder just how big a United supporter they are.
"They seem to me to be promoting or projecting themselves a wee bit rather than saying `at the end of the day the club have made a decision, we'll stick by them.' It's more about them than us."
Ferguson also reveals that anti-Glazer supporters had phoned him and urged him to resign when the takeover occurred:
"They seemed to forget that I have brought at least ... well, I've brought everybody here! The likes of Les Kershaw has been with me 18 years, Dave Bushell, Jim Ryan, Tony Whelan, Paul McGuinness, Mike Phelan, Brian McClair, they have been here with me virtually from the beginning, or at least over 10 or 12 years and I said `What happens to my staff if I go?' I feel that I have a responsibility to them.
"Need them to stay in a job, not me. So, therefore, there was a lot of hot air and a lot of unfair criticism because nobody actually knew the people. I can understand people thinking they have to protect the club, and I am fully aware of that, but all these protests should have been done when they went plc.
"That was the time to protest because thereafter Manchester United was never going to be the same."
An FC United spokesperson said of the comments:
"It's sad that Ferguson has chosen to make these comments because a war of words does no-one any good.
"When David Gill made similar comments it was easier to dismiss, but it hard to swallow when it comes from Sir Alex, who as a previous champion of supporters' rights should have a better understanding of the situation.
"The situation is that whether fans stopped going to Old Trafford on a point of principle or because they could no longer afford the prices, they did so with a heavy heart and remain Manchester United supporters. Those supporters deserve better than this."
IMUSA commented:
"Fergie is turning into the Marie Antoinette of Old Trafford, because the stuff he is coming out with is tantamount to saying `Let them eat cake.'
"Everyone associated with United has taken money out of the football club. The only people who have constantly given to it are the fans, and that gives them the right to have a say as to how the club is run."
Given Fergie's comments it’s strange that he didn’t just accept Coolmore’s decision on his horse with a meek `at the end of the day they have made a decision, I'll stick by them.' And when it comes to questioning how loyal some United fans are, well none of them ever threatened to walk out on the club the day before an FA Cup final against Liverpool did they? But of course Ferguson was entitled to do just that because it was about the thing closest to his heart – how much money he could get out of the club.
Meanwhile, his ludicrous comments about “his staff” ignore the fact that he didn’t care much for leaving them in the lurch when he was due to retire in 2002, and also appear to betray a fear that they wouldn’t be able to hack it in a post-Ferguson world. Why’s that then, would no one else be stupid enough to employ them?
http://www.redissue.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=296634
It seems he’s getting more than a little confused in his old age.
Speaking in `The Official Manchester United Diary of the Season,' (a bargain £16.99 to relive the nightmare of last year!) the supposed Socialist Ferguson questions United supporters’ audacity in wanting a say in how the club is run. On the successful blocking of the Sky takeover back in 1999:
"They (the fans) felt they were responsible for stopping the BSkyB deal, which is not true. Absolutely not. They may have made their voice heard but they were not responsible. It was the Monopolies and Mergers Commission (MMC) that stopped that.
"They carried on to the degree where they actually thought they should have a say in the running of the football club."
Just imagine that! The people who pay his wages wanting input into the running of THEIR club! Meanwhile, his comments on the MMC fly in the face of the MMC’s own acknowledgment at the time of the role the fans played in the blocking of the takeover. And it all sort of ignores the fact that Ferguson was in regular contact with – offering support – to those who were fighting the Sky takeover, but sadly he didn’t have the balls to come out and say so publicly.
Meanwhile Ferguson has more criticism in the same book:
"I'm sorry about that [the formation of FC United]. It is a bit sad that part, but I wonder just how big a United supporter they are.
"They seem to me to be promoting or projecting themselves a wee bit rather than saying `at the end of the day the club have made a decision, we'll stick by them.' It's more about them than us."
Ferguson also reveals that anti-Glazer supporters had phoned him and urged him to resign when the takeover occurred:
"They seemed to forget that I have brought at least ... well, I've brought everybody here! The likes of Les Kershaw has been with me 18 years, Dave Bushell, Jim Ryan, Tony Whelan, Paul McGuinness, Mike Phelan, Brian McClair, they have been here with me virtually from the beginning, or at least over 10 or 12 years and I said `What happens to my staff if I go?' I feel that I have a responsibility to them.
"Need them to stay in a job, not me. So, therefore, there was a lot of hot air and a lot of unfair criticism because nobody actually knew the people. I can understand people thinking they have to protect the club, and I am fully aware of that, but all these protests should have been done when they went plc.
"That was the time to protest because thereafter Manchester United was never going to be the same."
An FC United spokesperson said of the comments:
"It's sad that Ferguson has chosen to make these comments because a war of words does no-one any good.
"When David Gill made similar comments it was easier to dismiss, but it hard to swallow when it comes from Sir Alex, who as a previous champion of supporters' rights should have a better understanding of the situation.
"The situation is that whether fans stopped going to Old Trafford on a point of principle or because they could no longer afford the prices, they did so with a heavy heart and remain Manchester United supporters. Those supporters deserve better than this."
IMUSA commented:
"Fergie is turning into the Marie Antoinette of Old Trafford, because the stuff he is coming out with is tantamount to saying `Let them eat cake.'
"Everyone associated with United has taken money out of the football club. The only people who have constantly given to it are the fans, and that gives them the right to have a say as to how the club is run."
Given Fergie's comments it’s strange that he didn’t just accept Coolmore’s decision on his horse with a meek `at the end of the day they have made a decision, I'll stick by them.' And when it comes to questioning how loyal some United fans are, well none of them ever threatened to walk out on the club the day before an FA Cup final against Liverpool did they? But of course Ferguson was entitled to do just that because it was about the thing closest to his heart – how much money he could get out of the club.
Meanwhile, his ludicrous comments about “his staff” ignore the fact that he didn’t care much for leaving them in the lurch when he was due to retire in 2002, and also appear to betray a fear that they wouldn’t be able to hack it in a post-Ferguson world. Why’s that then, would no one else be stupid enough to employ them?
CarlosDanger
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Have another whisky Fergie....
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