Arnau;3025960 said:El meu país és tan petit que des del campanar, veig el campanar veí. Pep Guardiola.
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Arnau;3025960 said:El meu país és tan petit que des del campanar, veig el campanar veí. Pep Guardiola.
Xifio;3026178 said:it was a f*cking disgrace ... f*ck the result too; the ends don't justify the means, not for me ...
Xifio;3026178 said:and it wasn't due to that?! Pepe and Lass kept the creative players quiet ... take Pepe out of the equation, and that makes a HUGE difference ... don't pretend like the red card didn't change anything ...
Xifio;3026178 said:Madrid clearly didn't want to give away an early away goal, and would look to score one or two later on, leaving little or no time for Barça to reply ... the strategy was clearly working, coz Barcelona didn't look like they were on the cusp of scoring or anything ... it was only after Barça got Pepe sent off did they score; not a coincidence ...
Xifio;3026178 said:and was it Pep's "tactical genius" to have Sergio B. and Pedro hold their faces and roll and around like little bitches to try get a Real player sent off? what about Dani Alves rolling around like he had his leg broken to succeed in getting that red? or does Pep just implicitly condone such behaviour, with the excuse that his players can pass the ball around when they aren't rolling around?
Mourinho: "Podíamos jugar aquí tres horas y el partido hubiera quedado 0-0" ("We could have played here three hours and the match would have stayed 0-0")Xifio;3026178 said:it was a f*cking disgrace ... f*ck the result too; the ends don't justify the means, not for me ...
and it wasn't due to that?! Pepe and Lass kept the creative players quiet ... take Pepe out of the equation, and that makes a HUGE difference ... don't pretend like the red card didn't change anything ...
Madrid clearly didn't want to give away an early away goal, and would look to score one or two later on, leaving little or no time for Barça to reply ... the strategy was clearly working, coz Barcelona didn't look like they were on the cusp of scoring or anything ... it was only after Barça got Pepe sent off did they score; not a coincidence ...
and was it Pep's "tactical genius" to have Sergio B. and Pedro hold their faces and roll and around like little bitches to try get a Real player sent off? what about Dani Alves rolling around like he had his leg broken to succeed in getting that red? or does Pep just implicitly condone such behaviour, with the excuse that his players can pass the ball around when they aren't rolling around?
I have never liked Afellay, but he proved me wrong today.Arnau;3026185 said:Sergi Roberto! Afellay all times most impressive player
Sevillista;3026155 said:Mourinho and Madrid fans will surely chalk the loss up to the red card, but there was only one team out there playing football. How can you play at home in a CL semifinal and be proud to defend all match?
Just so you know, in English it's "sue", not "demand."Arnau;3026223 said:He crossed the line. Barça its going to demand him.
Oh, AS did it again
how can such behaviour fit into a pure philosophy of football? they were both a disgrace, and there is no place for such behaviour ...Dytza;3026181 said:Pedro and Busquets' acts didn't change anything neither on the scoreline nor in the referee's pocket.
why not?Dytza;3026181 said:Can't say anything about Dani Alves.
so you want to see me in a parallel universe where I'd be a Barcelona player, charged with the responsibility of upholding a pure philosophy of playing, and you'd want to know how I'd react if I got challenged with a high foot?Dytza;3026181 said:I would be very interested to see you acting after Pepe's foul.
centre it? centre what?ArgVega;3026198 said:Love how you center it around Barcelona and act like it doesn't happen anywhere else in the world.
Ringhio is thug, and I understand such players' role in a team ... but how is that relevant to people holding their face and rolling around?ArgVega;3026198 said:Gattuso would never fall into that sort of category, he has great sportsmanship . Please every team has those players.
yeah, it was a terrible call: it was a high foot; it should have been a yellow, not a red ...ArgVega;3026198 said:Was it a terrible call???? Look at Pepe's stupid and uncesseary lunge, he has only himself to blame.
it doesn't take a psychic to read a manager's possible moves once you've watched him for several years ...ArgVega;3026198 said:Way to speculate on the future, you must be psychic, I bet Mourinho would have scored 2 goals in the 89th and 90th minute, haha wtf??? He send his team to defend the 0-0, I would believe you if you said he was waiting for the second leg.
have you heard of the expression "knocking on the door"? that's what "on the cusp" is ... Pedro's half chance was a half chance; it took some acrobatic athleticism to attempt what he did, and it would have been more of a surprise if managed to control it and guide it in ...ArgVega;3026198 said:What about Pedritos header that snuck outside of the post after Villa's shot, I guess that doesn't fit in your definition of cusp??? What the hell does then?
if that's what you think "tactics" are, then I suppose Dani Alves constantly fouling Ángel di María would be "tactics" as well? and that would make Pep a similar "tactical genius", right?ArgVega;3026198 said:I guess Mou's tactical genius is to have constant fouling, Arbeloa and Marcelo stomping on our pleayers or hitting players off the ball, Adebayor pushing in the face with his arms.
first he brought on Adebayor, then he had Ricky Kaká warming up as the hour mark approached, with Benzema still an option as a third and final move, depending on the scoreline ... but Pepe was sent off on the hour mark, and it deprived us the chance of seeing any potential pre-planned strategies for a late assault unfold ...Sevillista;3026207 said:Mourinho: "Podíamos jugar aquí tres horas y el partido hubiera quedado 0-0"
I think that pretty well sums up Madrid's strategy.
Marcelo slipped without much/any help from Afellay ... once the door was open, he ran down the line and squared the ball; ok, it's good that he kept his cool, but it was Marcelo's unforced error, not Afellay's intelligence or skill, that opened up the chance for an assist ...Sevillista;3026207 said:I have never liked Afellay, but he proved me wrong today.Arnau;3026185 said:Sergi Roberto! Afellay all times most impressive player
Sevillista;3026227 said:Just so you know, in English it's "sue", not "demand."
And there are other ways to play Barcelona than just constantly defending.Help?;3026226 said:When will you learn that this is exactly how you beat Barcelona? You defend defend defend, tire them out or get them complacent at the back and then hit 'em on the counter when they least expect it. Why are you so adamant on having teams beat Barcelona by attacking like Barcelona? There are other football styles than just constantly attacking.
And there are other styles than just constantly defending. Where's the pride in that?Help?;3026226 said:When will you learn that this is exactly how you beat Barcelona? You defend defend defend, tire them out or get them complacent at the back and then hit 'em on the counter when they least expect it. Why are you so adamant on having teams beat Barcelona by attacking like Barcelona? There are other football styles than just constantly attacking.
Sevillista;3026235 said:And there are other ways to play Barcelona than just constantly defending.
Sevillista;3026236 said:There are a couple of polls on Marca, which are dominated by Madrid fans, that I found interesting. 90% think Mourinho was wrong to attack so little, and 73% think he is wrong to complain about the referees.
Help?;3026237 said:Ok, I could be wrong, I don't watch them every week. What are they?
Arnau;3026242 said:Villarreal at Camp Nou made an excellent performance playing attacking football. They lost but they had no cristiano, higuaín, özil, Benzema, Kaka, di maría...
Xifio;3026228 said:centre it? centre what?
Xifio;3026228 said:Ringhio is thug, and I understand such players' role in a team ... but how is that relevant to people holding their face and rolling around?
Xifio;3026228 said:yeah, it was a terrible call: it was a high foot; it should have been a yellow, not a red ...
Xifio;3026228 said:it doesn't take a psychic to read a manager's possible moves once you've watched him for several years ...
Xifio;3026228 said:have you heard of the expression "knocking on the door"? that's what "on the cusp" is ... Pedro's half chance was a half chance; it took some acrobatic athleticism to attempt what he did, and it would have been more of a surprise if managed to control it and guide it in ...
Xifio;3026228 said:if that's what you think "tactics" are, then I suppose Dani Alves constantly fouling Ángel di María would be "tactics" as well? and that would make Pep a similar "tactical genius", right?
Help?;3026237 said:Ok, I could be wrong, I don't watch them every week. What are they?
Help?;3026237 said:From the sounds of it, Barcelona players were diving and whining all over the place. I'm not surprised because I've seen it many times, but I've also seen it done by Real, Chelsea, United, Arsenal, Milan, Inter you name it. That's what the game turned into.
Help?;3026253 said:the one on April 2nd, where Xavi and Messi didn't start and Barca only truly started controlling the game in their usual style once Messi came on?
you quote my post, but then you decide to make up a quote and put it in inverted commas, and then reply to that? haha ... guess that's what I get for discussing the mores of Barcelona's purported philosophy with a boor ...ArgVega;3026255 said:"A thug is ncessary to a team"???? Wow yeah being a thug makes the game so great, that is just stupid.Xifio;3026255 said:Ringhio is thug, and I understand such players' role in a team ... but how is that relevant to people holding their face and rolling around?
Xifio;3026267 said:Ringhio is thug, and I understand such players' role in a team ... but how is that relevant to people holding their face and rolling around?
Arnau;3026257 said:No, this one