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The UEFA Champions League 2010/11 Thread

ArgVega

Yellow Card - Racism; Exp. 31/08/2013
Xifio;3026178 said:
it was a f*cking disgrace ... f*ck the result too; the ends don't justify the means, not for me ...

Love how you center it around Barcelona and act like it doesn't happen anywhere else in the world.

Gattuso would never fall into that sort of category, he has great sportsmanship :innocent_smile_1:. Please every team has those players.

I agree it is a shame, but you seem to center it around us like we are the only one, maybe Mou has passed you the virus called 'Barcelonitis'

Xifio;3026178 said:
and it wasn't due to that?! Pepe and Lass kept the creative players quiet ... take Pepe out of the equation, and that makes a HUGE difference ... don't pretend like the red card didn't change anything ...

Was it a terrible call???? Look at Pepe's stupid and uncesseary lunge, he has only himself to blame.

I have never seen someone criticize for a correct :biggrinx:

Xifio;3026178 said:
Madrid clearly didn't want to give away an early away goal, and would look to score one or two later on, leaving little or no time for Barça to reply ... the strategy was clearly working, coz Barcelona didn't look like they were on the cusp of scoring or anything ... it was only after Barça got Pepe sent off did they score; not a coincidence ...

Way to speculate on the future, you must be psychic, I bet Mourinho would have scored 2 goals in the 89th and 90th minute, haha wtf??? He send his team to defend the 0-0, I would believe you if you said he was waiting for the second leg.

What about Pedritos header that snuck outside of the post after Villa's shot, I guess that doesn't fit in your definition of cusp??? What the hell does then?

Xifio;3026178 said:
and was it Pep's "tactical genius" to have Sergio B. and Pedro hold their faces and roll and around like little bitches to try get a Real player sent off? what about Dani Alves rolling around like he had his leg broken to succeed in getting that red? or does Pep just implicitly condone such behaviour, with the excuse that his players can pass the ball around when they aren't rolling around?

I guess Mou's tactical genius is to have constant fouling, Arbeloa and Marcelo stomping on our pleayers or hitting players off the ball, Adebayor pushing in the face with his arms. Wow Xifio you are truly a mastermind of tactics....

either Mou has stolen your computer, or you have turned into a whiny little prick :clapwap:


BTW, LOLOLOLO dame una Mou cinco estrellas!!!
 

Sevillista

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Xifio;3026178 said:
it was a f*cking disgrace ... f*ck the result too; the ends don't justify the means, not for me ...



and it wasn't due to that?! Pepe and Lass kept the creative players quiet ... take Pepe out of the equation, and that makes a HUGE difference ... don't pretend like the red card didn't change anything ...



Madrid clearly didn't want to give away an early away goal, and would look to score one or two later on, leaving little or no time for Barça to reply ... the strategy was clearly working, coz Barcelona didn't look like they were on the cusp of scoring or anything ... it was only after Barça got Pepe sent off did they score; not a coincidence ...



and was it Pep's "tactical genius" to have Sergio B. and Pedro hold their faces and roll and around like little bitches to try get a Real player sent off? what about Dani Alves rolling around like he had his leg broken to succeed in getting that red? or does Pep just implicitly condone such behaviour, with the excuse that his players can pass the ball around when they aren't rolling around?
Mourinho: "Podíamos jugar aquí tres horas y el partido hubiera quedado 0-0" ("We could have played here three hours and the match would have stayed 0-0")

I think that pretty well sums up Madrid's strategy. Of course the red card changed the match, but it was not a bad call, and it is hard to sympathize with a home team that had no intention of attacking.

Arnau;3026185 said:
Sergi Roberto! Afellay all times most impressive player
I have never liked Afellay, but he proved me wrong today.

Btw, Mourinho's post-game comments are just terrible :nape:
 

Arnau

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He crossed the line. Barça its going to sue him.


Oh, AS did it again

 

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Sevillista;3026155 said:
Mourinho and Madrid fans will surely chalk the loss up to the red card, but there was only one team out there playing football. How can you play at home in a CL semifinal and be proud to defend all match?

When will you learn that this is exactly how you beat Barcelona? You defend defend defend, tire them out or get them complacent at the back and then hit 'em on the counter when they least expect it. Why are you so adamant on having teams beat Barcelona by attacking like Barcelona? There are other football styles than just constantly attacking.


From the sounds of it, Barcelona players were diving and whining all over the place. I'm not surprised because I've seen it many times, but I've also seen it done by Real, Chelsea, United, Arsenal, Milan, Inter you name it. That's what the game turned into.

Pepe's challenge did look like he was going for the ball, but I don't think anybody can say that it was DEFINITELY not a red card, seemed like Alves acted a bit, but you can easily break a leg like that too.

Overall, this game was a ****ty bitchfest.

Hopefully, the final won't be like that, but you gotta feel for Mourinho, even since Inter semi last year he has been on the receiving end of ref calls in games with Barca.
 

Xifio

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Dytza;3026181 said:
Pedro and Busquets' acts didn't change anything neither on the scoreline nor in the referee's pocket.
how can such behaviour fit into a pure philosophy of football? they were both a disgrace, and there is no place for such behaviour ...



Dytza;3026181 said:
Can't say anything about Dani Alves.
why not?



Dytza;3026181 said:
I would be very interested to see you acting after Pepe's foul.
so you want to see me in a parallel universe where I'd be a Barcelona player, charged with the responsibility of upholding a pure philosophy of playing, and you'd want to know how I'd react if I got challenged with a high foot?



ArgVega;3026198 said:
Love how you center it around Barcelona and act like it doesn't happen anywhere else in the world.
centre it? centre what?



ArgVega;3026198 said:
Gattuso would never fall into that sort of category, he has great sportsmanship :innocent_smile_1:. Please every team has those players.
Ringhio is thug, and I understand such players' role in a team ... but how is that relevant to people holding their face and rolling around?



ArgVega;3026198 said:
Was it a terrible call???? Look at Pepe's stupid and uncesseary lunge, he has only himself to blame.
yeah, it was a terrible call: it was a high foot; it should have been a yellow, not a red ...



ArgVega;3026198 said:
Way to speculate on the future, you must be psychic, I bet Mourinho would have scored 2 goals in the 89th and 90th minute, haha wtf??? He send his team to defend the 0-0, I would believe you if you said he was waiting for the second leg.
it doesn't take a psychic to read a manager's possible moves once you've watched him for several years ...



ArgVega;3026198 said:
What about Pedritos header that snuck outside of the post after Villa's shot, I guess that doesn't fit in your definition of cusp??? What the hell does then?
have you heard of the expression "knocking on the door"? that's what "on the cusp" is ... Pedro's half chance was a half chance; it took some acrobatic athleticism to attempt what he did, and it would have been more of a surprise if managed to control it and guide it in ...



ArgVega;3026198 said:
I guess Mou's tactical genius is to have constant fouling, Arbeloa and Marcelo stomping on our pleayers or hitting players off the ball, Adebayor pushing in the face with his arms.
if that's what you think "tactics" are, then I suppose Dani Alves constantly fouling Ángel di María would be "tactics" as well? and that would make Pep a similar "tactical genius", right?



Sevillista;3026207 said:
Mourinho: "Podíamos jugar aquí tres horas y el partido hubiera quedado 0-0"

I think that pretty well sums up Madrid's strategy.
first he brought on Adebayor, then he had Ricky Kaká warming up as the hour mark approached, with Benzema still an option as a third and final move, depending on the scoreline ... but Pepe was sent off on the hour mark, and it deprived us the chance of seeing any potential pre-planned strategies for a late assault unfold ...



Sevillista;3026207 said:
Arnau;3026185 said:
Sergi Roberto! Afellay all times most impressive player
I have never liked Afellay, but he proved me wrong today.
Marcelo slipped without much/any help from Afellay ... once the door was open, he ran down the line and squared the ball; ok, it's good that he kept his cool, but it was Marcelo's unforced error, not Afellay's intelligence or skill, that opened up the chance for an assist ...
 

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Help?;3026226 said:
When will you learn that this is exactly how you beat Barcelona? You defend defend defend, tire them out or get them complacent at the back and then hit 'em on the counter when they least expect it. Why are you so adamant on having teams beat Barcelona by attacking like Barcelona? There are other football styles than just constantly attacking.
And there are other ways to play Barcelona than just constantly defending.

There are a couple of polls on Marca, which are dominated by Madrid fans, that I found interesting. 90% think Mourinho was wrong to attack so little, and 73% think he is wrong to complain about the referees.
 

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Help?;3026226 said:
When will you learn that this is exactly how you beat Barcelona? You defend defend defend, tire them out or get them complacent at the back and then hit 'em on the counter when they least expect it. Why are you so adamant on having teams beat Barcelona by attacking like Barcelona? There are other football styles than just constantly attacking.
And there are other styles than just constantly defending. Where's the pride in that?

There are a couple of polls on Marca, which are dominated by Madrid fans, that I found interesting. 90% think Mourinho was wrong to attack so little, and 73% think he is wrong to complain about the referees.
 

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Sevillista;3026236 said:
There are a couple of polls on Marca, which are dominated by Madrid fans, that I found interesting. 90% think Mourinho was wrong to attack so little, and 73% think he is wrong to complain about the referees.

Of coarse every fan wants to see their team constantly attack, and neither Chelsea, Inter not Real fans are fond of Mourinho's style, but its his style and it worked with superb efficiency in the past.
 

Arnau

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Help?;3026237 said:
Ok, I could be wrong, I don't watch them every week. What are they?

Villarreal at Camp Nou made an excellent performance playing attacking football. They lost but they had no cristiano, higuaín, özil, Benzema, Kaka, di maría...
 

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Arnau;3026242 said:
Villarreal at Camp Nou made an excellent performance playing attacking football. They lost but they had no cristiano, higuaín, özil, Benzema, Kaka, di maría...

the one on April 2nd, where Xavi and Messi didn't start and Barca only truly started controlling the game in their usual style once Messi came on?
 

ArgVega

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Xifio;3026228 said:
centre it? centre what?

Talking all about us, and acting like Madrid were playing clean and they're angels. I'm saying players like this are all over the world not just Barcelona.

Xifio;3026228 said:
Ringhio is thug, and I understand such players' role in a team ... but how is that relevant to people holding their face and rolling around?

Its equally as disgraceful to the game, his actions against Tottenham were a complete disgrace.

"A thug is ncessary to a team"???? Wow yeah being a thug makes the game so great, that is just stupid.

Xifio;3026228 said:
yeah, it was a terrible call: it was a high foot; it should have been a yellow, not a red ...

Haha high foot over Alves with studs up. Its not just Barcelona fans saying it was a red card, clearly it wasn't a terrible call. I don't know what kind of futbol you are used to, I watching Gattuso or Ibrahimovic makes this type of game seem clean :icon_spin:

Xifio;3026228 said:
it doesn't take a psychic to read a manager's possible moves once you've watched him for several years ...

Haha I guess you are the "puto amo" of sg forums. Clearly Madrid looked so likely to score 2 goals on us, they were controlling the game and I mean with Adebayor and Kaka they would be some much better than us..... :innocent_smile_1:



Xifio;3026228 said:
have you heard of the expression "knocking on the door"? that's what "on the cusp" is ... Pedro's half chance was a half chance; it took some acrobatic athleticism to attempt what he did, and it would have been more of a surprise if managed to control it and guide it in ...

If it would have been a couple of inches over it would have been a goal, I guess your game is of centimeters.... So it was a half chance, what about Villa's shot, or Xavi's shot which forced a couple good saves out of casillas were they 1/1000th chances??? :clapwap:



Xifio;3026228 said:
if that's what you think "tactics" are, then I suppose Dani Alves constantly fouling Ángel di María would be "tactics" as well? and that would make Pep a similar "tactical genius", right?

Look at your definition of tactics when sevillista pointed posted about being a tactical genius... The same bull **** that comes out your mouth can be applied to Mourinho.

Also Di Maria didn't dive at all it was all our players... Alves fouled 100 times and Lass only fouled a million times, so has Pepe over the last 3 games, but no let's focus on how its all Barcelona cheating...

Mou can only complain about Thiago Motta and kinda Del Horno red cards... Pepe/Ramos/Di Maria all got fair red cards, but he likes to b*tch and get attention, its pathetic
 

ArgVega

Yellow Card - Racism; Exp. 31/08/2013
Help?;3026237 said:
Ok, I could be wrong, I don't watch them every week. What are they?

Arsenal second half at the Emirites(Y)

The 5 games I've watched with Arsenal have been an absolute joy.

These Real Madrid games have been filled with more antics than futbol:md:

Help?;3026237 said:
From the sounds of it, Barcelona players were diving and whining all over the place. I'm not surprised because I've seen it many times, but I've also seen it done by Real, Chelsea, United, Arsenal, Milan, Inter you name it. That's what the game turned into.


Finally someone has pointed out it happens somewhere else than just Barcelon, the world can end now...
 

Arnau

NGR LVR
Help?;3026253 said:
the one on April 2nd, where Xavi and Messi didn't start and Barca only truly started controlling the game in their usual style once Messi came on?

No, this one


 

Xifio

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ArgVega;3026255 said:
Xifio;3026255 said:
Ringhio is thug, and I understand such players' role in a team ... but how is that relevant to people holding their face and rolling around?
"A thug is ncessary to a team"???? Wow yeah being a thug makes the game so great, that is just stupid.
you quote my post, but then you decide to make up a quote and put it in inverted commas, and then reply to that? haha (H) ... guess that's what I get for discussing the mores of Barcelona's purported philosophy with a boor ...

I've made my points in my previous posts, and there is nothing more to be said ...
 

ArgVega

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Xifio;3026267 said:
Ringhio is thug, and I understand such players' role in a team ... but how is that relevant to people holding their face and rolling around?

Haha I'm gonna make it easir to find for you, read the bold print dumb ass
 

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Arnau;3026257 said:
No, this one



I didn't watch the game, but by reading a few reports it sounded like Barca still control the game in their usual way and won quite comfortably. And that offside goal should have stood too to make it 4-1. Surely that's not a way to beat Barcelona?
 


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