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The UEFA Champions League 2010/11 Thread
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nikolapfc89
Youth Team
Great Partizan,amaizing Paok !
Partizan 3:0 HJK Helsinki
Easy win for us,great game,we played good,i remember only 1 chance for HJK.
1-0 Ivica Iliev (Great first match,at back in his old club)
2-0 Sasa Ilic
3-0 Cleo (Amaizing shot,nice goal)
We have huge addvantage before 2nd match...
Partizan 3:0 HJK Helsinki
Easy win for us,great game,we played good,i remember only 1 chance for HJK.
1-0 Ivica Iliev (Great first match,at back in his old club)
2-0 Sasa Ilic
3-0 Cleo (Amaizing shot,nice goal)
We have huge addvantage before 2nd match...
you obviously didn't watch the match ... should have been a blowout, with Luis Suárez grabbing a hat-trick (and if you think Luis Suárez is sh!t, then you can stop reading right here; there is no point in continuing) ... Ajax paid the price for not taking more from the boat-load of clear chances created ... PAOK had one shot on goal, and it went in ... just one of those days ... Ajax have more than enough quality to progress with a result in the away leg ...$teauA;2914985 said:
hahaha what?! if you are just entering secondary school, I can understand you having such an antiquated perception of philosophy, usually brought on by exposure to the general ignorance [sadly] inherent in vox populi ... but from someone who is likely an upperclassman in college/uni or has recently graduated? come on ...$teauA;2915100 said:
please do look up the definition of "philosophy" and get back to me ...
fact$teauA;2915100 said:
philosophy$teauA;2915100 said:
1-1 is 1-1, nothing more or less. A team can not qualifie only by playng better than the other, but needs more goals. If a team has 15 opportunities to score and scores only one, then sorry but this team has problem (6% success), and this does not depend only to luck. on the opposite side, if a team scores in the only opportunity given that means ability with or without luck nevermind. Teams in all soccer history qualifie or win throphies by getting results. in history's books are written only the winners names and of course the results, that's why soccer is played for (a simulation of war with a lot of war symbols, where the goal is to win and not to have a nice war!!!), the beautiful parades are for Circus and excibition shows and the justice is for the courts. in soccer games wins the able to get the score he needs to. Simple.
Anyway, as greek I am happy for this result, although I am Olympiakos fan, but I deeply believe that Ajax are better and they are closer to qualify if they intend to be serious in Salonica.
Anyway, as greek I am happy for this result, although I am Olympiakos fan, but I deeply believe that Ajax are better and they are closer to qualify if they intend to be serious in Salonica.
Xifio;2915134 said:
I could just as easily tell you that a final score doesn't matter at all if you're gonna look at it that way buddy.
You said it yourself, the final score is a fact. Saying that it's the only thing that matters is not fact by strict definition but I wonder what the players said after the match...
I think this paragraph below is pertinent in replying to both of the above posts ... so I request you both to read it:
if you look at the stats in Formula 1, Michael Schumacher is the best racing driver of all time ... but ask almost anyone who knows the sport who they think the best driver of all time is, and they'll tell you it is Ayrton Senna ... in a sport whose point is to win it all or not at all, Senna's global veneration comes not from winning more than anyone else, but from the manner in which he drove against what is considered to be the most talented generation of F1 drivers ... if you ignore the story, and focus just on the results, you will miss out on what makes great things great!
and I felt it pertinent to point it out because you said the 1-1 scoreline showed that the Dutch league is sh!t ... but, in fact, Ajax dominated the match, and it was a star player (whose quality has been recently proven on the world stage) who fluffed the chances to bury the match ... like I said, it was one of those days -- for star man Luis, and therefore for his team ... ignoring the story of the match makes for nonsensical conclusions ...
I always think it is so untrue when someone says that people "only remember the winners" in football ... nothing can be further from the truth!
after Greece's EURO 2004 victory, they were referred to by most [non-Hellenic] fans as the "winners of EURO 2004", and not as the "European Champions" ... why? because the statement "European Champions" carries with it the tag of being the best team on the continent ...
when France won EURO 2000, they confirmed their status as the best team on the planet, and went into the next world tournaments (Confed and WC) as favourites ... France would ultimately go onto a humiliating exit in 2002, but it was one of the all-time biggest shocks in World Cup history ...
when Spain won EURO 2008, everyone finally acknowledged that the perennial underachievers had finally converted their ubiquitous world class potential into actually winning a trophy ... they too would go into the next tournaments as favourites ...
but did the EURO 2004 winners go into the next tournaments as favourites? emphatically no! was the general footballing fraternity surprised when Greece failed miserably at the Confederations Cup in 2005? nope ... were they shocked when Greece failed to even make it to WC 2006? nope ... why? because those people remembered the story of EURO 2004! and not just the result ...
that Greece used sucker-punch tactics at EURO 2004 was in itself a sucker-punch move ... it caught the big teams at the tournament by surprise, and they did not develop a gameplan to combat it fast enough ... so, Greece won the tournament! but once the secret was out, all of Greece's opponents for the World Cup qualifiers (which started a few months later that same year) were well-prepared, and the EURO 2004 winners were dealt with with consummate ease by nations who are hardly giants of the game ...
if you look at the stats in Formula 1, Michael Schumacher is the best racing driver of all time ... but ask almost anyone who knows the sport who they think the best driver of all time is, and they'll tell you it is Ayrton Senna ... in a sport whose point is to win it all or not at all, Senna's global veneration comes not from winning more than anyone else, but from the manner in which he drove against what is considered to be the most talented generation of F1 drivers ... if you ignore the story, and focus just on the results, you will miss out on what makes great things great!
whether it's you who says it, or the players, it still remains a footballing philosophy ...$teauA;2915432 said:
not at all ... you said the score is the ONLY thing that matters ... I showed my disagreement with such an ideology because I think there must be BOTH style and substance -- one without the other is useless to me ...$teauA;2915432 said:
and I felt it pertinent to point it out because you said the 1-1 scoreline showed that the Dutch league is sh!t ... but, in fact, Ajax dominated the match, and it was a star player (whose quality has been recently proven on the world stage) who fluffed the chances to bury the match ... like I said, it was one of those days -- for star man Luis, and therefore for his team ... ignoring the story of the match makes for nonsensical conclusions ...
I think it is appropriate that a Greek supporter should have spoken on this matter ... it will allow me to use their example to illustrate my points ...mogolos;2915143 said:
I always think it is so untrue when someone says that people "only remember the winners" in football ... nothing can be further from the truth!
after Greece's EURO 2004 victory, they were referred to by most [non-Hellenic] fans as the "winners of EURO 2004", and not as the "European Champions" ... why? because the statement "European Champions" carries with it the tag of being the best team on the continent ...
when France won EURO 2000, they confirmed their status as the best team on the planet, and went into the next world tournaments (Confed and WC) as favourites ... France would ultimately go onto a humiliating exit in 2002, but it was one of the all-time biggest shocks in World Cup history ...
when Spain won EURO 2008, everyone finally acknowledged that the perennial underachievers had finally converted their ubiquitous world class potential into actually winning a trophy ... they too would go into the next tournaments as favourites ...
but did the EURO 2004 winners go into the next tournaments as favourites? emphatically no! was the general footballing fraternity surprised when Greece failed miserably at the Confederations Cup in 2005? nope ... were they shocked when Greece failed to even make it to WC 2006? nope ... why? because those people remembered the story of EURO 2004! and not just the result ...
that Greece used sucker-punch tactics at EURO 2004 was in itself a sucker-punch move ... it caught the big teams at the tournament by surprise, and they did not develop a gameplan to combat it fast enough ... so, Greece won the tournament! but once the secret was out, all of Greece's opponents for the World Cup qualifiers (which started a few months later that same year) were well-prepared, and the EURO 2004 winners were dealt with with consummate ease by nations who are hardly giants of the game ...
props for this!mogolos;2915143 said:
Sevillista
Starting XI
If all that mattered was winning, why would you watch?
Congrats on Braga qualifying for the champions league. So how are they recieved in Portugal along with the elites? because I'm not gonna lie i've been impressed when they played against the other top clubs from all over Europe. How is Alberto Rodriguez CB of Braga progressing?
Braga did improve since last year, they finish 2nd in the league, and 2 years before they won Intertoto and they were well classified in Uefa Cup with our coach Jorge Jesus.
They lost some important players this season but im glad that they are playing good in the same.
Rodriguez said last year that he wants to leave, but... He's remaining in Braga and playing well. Its one of the good CB that we have in our league, but i dont know why he doesnt make the jump to other leagues or clubs. Its a matter of time i think. But hes OK in terms of skills.
They lost some important players this season but im glad that they are playing good in the same.
Rodriguez said last year that he wants to leave, but... He's remaining in Braga and playing well. Its one of the good CB that we have in our league, but i dont know why he doesnt make the jump to other leagues or clubs. Its a matter of time i think. But hes OK in terms of skills.
What's the deal with Mallorca not being let in the Champions League?
ShiftyPowers
Make America Great Again
Your team games are always exciting, even if your team is boring. Therefore, I'd much rather have my team play boring, terrible football and win, than play exciting, attacking football and lose.
Sevillista
Starting XI
They didn't make the Champions League because of this 94th minute goal by Sevillaskiptomylou;2915998 said:
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But if you're talking about why they aren't being let into the Europa League, it's because they are broke/in major debt.
Ouch. I missed that. I thought it was for the Champions League.