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This is Football/Soccer (again)

ZZUB

Youth Team
Sorry to bring this up again but Im still enjoying Sony's This is Soccer on the playstation. I havent had a single 5-5 draw in over a weeks play. There are parts of the game that are not as good as the Fifa series (choice of camera angles, management options etc) but the gameplay is much better than FIFA 2000. Im used to the look and feel of the game and I tried Fifa 2000 again a few hours ago and didnt bother to finish the game I was playing, I took the disc out and went back to T.I.F Its not the perfect game but on world class level it isnt high speed ping pong and it is really tough to win on that level.
Hire it and see if its worth a go
 
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PolishPower

Guest
Dude where the heck did you get this game? I also started playing a game in FIFA 2000, and didnt even bother to finish it, (it was so bogus watching Cruyff score a hat-trick vs Germany 74 before the 20th minute).

Also what do you mean management options are not as good?
 
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Cecco

Guest
I bought a copy of This Is Football last weekend and I must say that it's way way better than Fifa 2K, the only problems that I'm having is crossing the ball in the penalty area, most of the times that I do this the ball ends up in the goalkeepers arms. And one more thing, I've noticed that the opposing team usually scores the same way over and over again, in the lower left or right hand corner, do you have the same problems, can you let me know how to cross the ball with more precision?

P.S. Uefa striker is also brilliant!

Thanks
 

ZZUB

Youth Team
Polish Power I will tomorrow try and write a decent (amateur) evaluation of the game and try and point out all the good bits and bad bits in it. With respect to management oprions, you only get to choose a formation and either balanced, attack or defence styles. There are no other things apart from putting players in positions you want. Im in New Zealand and it was released down here on December 2nd.
Cecco, with respect to the crossing, yep thats one of the dumb things, a cross automatically goes to the goalmouth within reach of the goalie if crossed from the "autocross zones" Try crossing from areas not quite so wide out and not so deep down the pitch, for example just near the corners of the penalty box. Use the R1 and circle buttons to cross and you retain a little control. The problem then becomes that its hard to get enough power to score from a header.
Also Cecco for a laugh try this....In custom section take a couple of players and drop their hieght and weight to the minimums, then take another player and put everything to maximum. You end up with dwarfs and giants on the pitch. Its hilarious.
Mike
 
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GROBAR_OTAGO

Guest
ZZUB,

I also live in Aotearoa, but I cant find the game anywhere to rent out, I looked in Video Ezy and United Video and neither have it.
P.S I'm in Palmerston North
 
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Mark

Guest
Has anyone in Australia seen this game? I rang my local video store (Bondi) but they don't have it.
I aint tried the shops yet but might try tonight.
 

ZZUB

Youth Team
Grobar, your best bet might be to go into a playstation game shop and ask to try it out on their playstation for a while. I recommend trying it first because what appeals to me may not suit others. The other bonus is that because its a Sony game its about 30% cheaper than other games, I think it cost me NZ$69.
 

ZZUB

Youth Team
OK here goes an attempt to write some form of review to give those who havent tried this game an idea of what its like.
Firstly I think people need to try this game before buying, what appeals to me may not suit others.

Graphics.
At first I didnt like how the game looks but it has grown on me to the point now that when I look at F2K I am disappointed. The stadiums look better, the angles during cut pieces mean you get to see the stadium and sky etc which gives an atmosphere of a big occaision. The framerate is really smooth and again it is far slicker than F2K in this respect. The players look good as well and there is variation in size and weight among players which is clearly visible. This also means that defending against Norways Flo at corners is harder work if you have shorter defenders.

Sound.
Im not hugely fussed by music etc in these games and have turned this option off and I cant remember what the soundtrack is like. The crowd noises and sound effects are excellent and believable, the crowd appears to react when you make a break or when the final whistle is near the crowd whistles and jeers. Good atmosphere created. The commentary isnt that great but its not poor either.

Options.
TIF has a pretty cool customise option for players and teams etc. You can create custom teams or edit existing teams and players. You cant transfer players but you can "copy" players from one team to another. One amusing feature is the ability to adjust players so that they are either incredibly tall,short,fat,skinny etc. The results are hilarious when you have one striker who looks like a midget and the other striker as a giant. You have control over a wide range of player attributes, possibly 20 or more individual attributes but you only get so many points to play with. If you are a weener like me and like to put yourself into the game with the best possible attributes, one method is to copy across a great player with high attribute levels, and then alter him to suit etc.
One disappointing aspect for me are the camera angles you can play with, there are three versions of sideline camera and three versions of end on, thats all, no others. The replay options however are excellent. You can save any replay of any part of a game if you wish. Also when you score the replay starts early enough so you get a decent amount of the build up.
There are a good selection of leagues to play. English, Scottish, German, Italian, Spanish, Dutch, French, Belgian and Portuguese. The international selections enable you to play mini competitions with teams from all of Fifa's confederations. There are world cup and custom league options as well. To gain entry to some of the special competitions available you have to win a league or trophy in world class mode. After a couple of weeks Im still struggling to consisitently win in world class mode. This game is a challenge on world class mode for me.

Controls
TIF uses F2K's tapping of the triangle button to sprint and has a nice big range of passes,chips,shots,headers, through balls, tackles and one two type options available that are pretty straightforward to master.

Gameplay.
This is the hard one to describe. Firstly there is no speed setting, its a set speed and it feels just perfect. Its not fast and frantic, its simply like normal pace. The pitches are of a decent size so that the play doesnt feel cramped. Passing and accurate passing is down to the user, the ball doesnt automatically go straight to the player and i often end up over passing or being too short on the pass. The through ball is excellent but to add realism it doesnt work every time you use it. Tackling is more realistic than other games and fouls etc occur at a more realistic pace, not every tackle or never at all. The only real complaint I have with the gameplay is with the crossing of the ball, it usually ends up in the goalkeepers arms right on the goal line if crossed from what sony refer to as the auto cross zones. Shooting requires lots of practice to get the amount of time holding the shoot button just right. Sadly there is no practice option. The game also tracks the history of your playing so after you have been playing a while you can see how many games you win, how many goals you score etc. The stats on goals scored by players isnt that great however. On world class level the AI doesnt simply speed up, in fact it doesnt increase its ability that way at all. It marks tighter and closes you down quicker. World Class level for me is really tough at this point, its a real challenge. Pro level is at this point just right for me but that will hopefully improve. You can beat defenders with various shimmies, twists, one two passes etc. Defending is also equally as good once you work out whether you prefer the AI to control which defender you get control of next or whether you do it yourself.

Overall I simply dont play F2K anymore on the playstation, Im playing this game. There are lots of little things where F2K is better (ie: things like team management of tactics etc and better choice of playing camera angles) but for me this game in terms of gameplay and realism is miles better than F2K.
Again try the game before you buy and also try and take into account that this game gets better the longer you have been playing.
Hope this helps.
 
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PolishPower

Guest
Few more questions:

Are there injuries in this game?

Do players get tired, and does the computer substitute for those players automatically?

Are there suspensions for yellow and red cards?

Can you control more than one team in a league?

But all this might be moot because i dont think this game will be released in USA!
 

FIFAfreak

Youth Team
This game sounds interesting, a few tweaks here and there in the next version and maybe you have a great game better than FIFA.

Only problem is whether Sony will release it under the title "This is Soccer" in the states? I doubt they will.
 

ZZUB

Youth Team
Players get tired and injured, you have control over replacing these players. The computer controlled team replaces its own. You have three options of referee strictness. Yellow and red cards are issued as well as resulting suspensions for too many yellow cards during a season or tournament. You can control more than one team in a season.
Finally my own personal opinion that may not be what other people who play the game will share is that This Is Football/Soccer is already better than the Fifa 2000 without the tweaks. The key thing for me is the gameplay, its already miles better than Fifa 2000, where it can be tweaked is in the other areas of the game. (Camera angles, transfers etc etc)
 

ZZUB

Youth Team
Cecco,
I also had problems at first with the computer team scoring in the near post all the time. It hasnt happened in ages now because I now know how to defend for that situation. I think that angle of attack is the computers first line of attack. The best way around that is to take manual control of which player goes to defend so you can choose another player to close down the winger.
 
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Cecco

Guest
ZZUB, thanks for the tip.

P.S. You're right, this game is miles and miles ahead of Fifa..it's great to be in the 90th minute and the score 0-0 or 1-0, very realistic game.
 
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PolishPower

Guest
Is there a web site for this game?

If this game was here in USA i would buy it tomorrow. My advice is if you get FIFA 2000 for Christmas, don't even open it! return it for your money back or get another game cause FIFA 2000 is a stinker.

Please someone find out if this game is being released anywhere besides new zealand! Also what is the tv system in new zealand? is it NTSC? if it is we might be able to play this disc on american playstation.
 
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GOONERBHOY

Guest
ZZUB,
Well fantastic review maybe you have a career in gaming reviews ahead of you. Anyway you sold me it sounds Brill. I`ve just got a few questions.
What do you mean by "copying" players instead of transfering?
Can you tell me what stadiums are in TIF especially if Parkhead is in it?
And i would also like to know where i can find some screen shots etc on the web?
I shouldn`t have any prob getting it if you did i`m just in Australia.
THANKS
Mark,
Don`t worry i`m just an arsehole. I used to live in sydney but i was so young it`s been a long time since the sydney days i got manly main and Bondi beach mixed up.
 
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PolishPower

Guest
I got this off their web site, what do you think:

This is Football allows you to customise almost every aspect of the game. There are options to tweak practically everything from the amount of stubble on your centre-back's face to your team's home stadium.

Choose from over 2 000 possible kit designs (both home and away strips) and 30 club flag templates. You can tweak over 26 individual player attributes from height and weight, through to attributes such as passing vision, stamina, and grace under pressure. There are also over 5 000 player faces to select, with options to change skin colour and hair style as well as facial hair, and of course player names. Follow the transfer market by updating your team with new signings, or strengthen your squad with the players you would love to have. . . With the additional option of creating completely new players from scratch there are now no limits to team selection.

Tactically, you can select team formation and strategy, both before each game and in-game.

Also it doesnt say this on English version web site, but I went to the French language version and from what i could make out this game includes 13 real(classic?) stadiums, about 250 teams, 5000 players(international and clubs) major cup competitions, international and club(though doubt this means Libertadores is here), and most of the major leagues in Europe, they mention the European big 5. Also they have pics and it looks definitely better than FIFA 2000, you can see your clubs flags being waved in the stands! also the ball looks better.

Also this game must be better as far as realism cause some magazine gave review which said they played it for three hours and could not score once! which sounds like FIFA 99 a bit huh?
 
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GOONERBHOY

Guest
Been to the site now, it looks good!
Couldn`t find the cheats everyone in their forum were on about what are the cheats?
 


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