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UCL: Chelsea FC - FC Barcelona [P+R]

thelordspawn

Starting XI
1st one was correct decision player is allowed to grab players shoulder a tiny bit but not excessive and the grabs in box werent sufficient enough to be called a penalty also that last suposed arm in face thats bollocks as you aw in replay maloudas face was way off camera so who the ****a re they to say if he had his arm in his face or not. Also if he was in box it was a small little footstep and it would be very harsh.

Also frankly i think ref saw the inital grab push outside the box and decided to see if there was an advantage and see if defender continues to grab push etc player which he did so he called it back.

also in my opinion if the player with ball is in the bo by a couple inches or friggin very barely in box why should a pk be called on such little contact thats total rubbish he was totally clear in bo where minor contact ok would warrant a pk. but giving a pk which si very debatable if player was in bo or nto in the replay was very barely in is being harsh correct decision was a fk on line.

2nd one is a 50-50 yes he had shirt but the shirt pull as you saw didnt slow drogba down at all and wouldn`t of made any difference if defender was or wasn`t grabbing shirt which in the box isn`t enough to warrant a foul then drogba falls down like the little bitch he is from no contact as you saw there a small shirt pull wont make you fall down.

oh and not only that GK would`ve saved it anyway as you can see drogba knocked ball to far ahead and gk grabbed it drogba didnt have remotely close to a clear scoring chance or denied one and that is biggest reason why ref didn`t call pk also cause of his reputation (and throughout the game he dived and faked injuries like he usually does) also that shirt tug was very minor it was clear but as a i said earlier didn`t impede drogba at all or at least enough to deny drogba a clear scoring chance.

3rd piques arm was there long before the ball was kicked so how can anyone say ti was deliberate it wasn`t like player kicked ball then pique moved his arm there his arm was already there long b4 ball was kicked then player kicked ball into his arm to try and get a penalty.

rule is if ball played the hand its not a pk and if hand plays ball its pk no matter what reason his arm was there it was there long before ball was kicked and clearly the ball hit the armo and not arm hit ball so therefore PK cant be called. Also it is a good strategy for defenders for that reason. 1. it makes it a little harder for opposing player to get past defender (not much though) you see defenders armos like that all the time.
2. i know its cheap but its LEGAL way to get away with a had ball you stick your arm out clearly b4 ball is kicked and if it hits your arm you mess up the play without giving away a pk as te ball hit his arm and not other way around Very cheap yes but smart.

So as the rules go no PK. doesnt matter what his intent was. the rule is ball plays hand no foul or pk hand plays ball foul or pk.

4th etoo was trying to turn his back to the ball and also when they turn there back to the ball they raise there arms like that to try to avoid ball hitting there arm not to intentionally stop ball with hands. you can tell if it was deliberate or not. he knew ballack was going to kick it so he tried to turn his back to it and get his arms as high as possible to avoid ball hitting his arm but ballack was to close and didnt have enough time and ball hit his arm. to eb fair etoo isnt sueprhuman and had very very little time to react.

NOt only that when that supposed hand ball happened it was 7 minutes into injury time when it was supposed to be only 4 so right when the ball was cleared to ballack final whistle shouldve been called. so as far as i am concerned Chelsea were lucky to even get that corner in first place. So they should be greatful to even get that corner chance.



To be fair i`ll say Chelsea Deserve 1 Penatly but all 4 definetly werent clear pks

Barca had a clear pk denied where it was massive shirt pulling and threw henry to ground that was WAY WAY to much shirt grabbing.

And also had Abidal Red carded for an Anelka dive which if ref wasn`t so gullible and believed anelkas super dive. Anelka would`ve been red carded for diving (cause if that was an actual foul defender wouldve been red carded)

Regardless Barca completly dominated possession and chelsea were lucky alves had a **** game with all those crappy crosses.

im not going to lie despite barcas possession dominance Chelsea has amazing chances to score goals (other than pk appeals) and i hate to admit deserved to win and go through.

Very lucky for barca it was only a matter of time b4 Barca capitalized on their possession domination and very lucky for them came last minute
 

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Luis Ah-Hoy;2662813 said:
...it became even more evident that Chelsea's only chance to outplay Barça is to conceed ball possession and then defend with all their 11 players behind the ball, and since Barça will always be the only team attacking ....

kp40;2662827 said:
1. 24th Minute - Alves on Malouda
2. 26th Minute - Abidal on Drogba
3. 57th Minute - Toure on Drogba
4. 82nd Minute - Handball Pique
5. 97th minute - Eto'o handball

That's 5 "attacks" on the Barcelona goal.

Let me correct your statement: Barça AND CHELSEA will BOTH BE attacking. What you chose to ignore is a COLD HARD FACT: The referee prevented 5 of those attacks from becoming clear-cut goal scoring chances. They may not have been goals, but they would ALL have ATLEAST been chances to score a goal. And I'm sure that THAT would have changed your opinion on which team/teams were attacking. I don't know about how many chances are required, by a team, for you to consider that team "attacking" but, for me, 5 chances definitely qualifies as ATTACKING. Hell, even if 3 of those 5 decisions were NOT penalties, there's a good chance that the other 2 could have been all that Chelsea needed to salt away the game.

Anyways, Barcelona do not have to feel guilty. They did nothing wrong and, like I mentioned earlier, I rather enjoyed the game. The referee/UEFA are to blame.
 

Arnau

NGR LVR
attacking in the meaning of play for score a goal (or more) than the rival, not block all rival creative fonts and surprise him at counter attack, its absolutely normal that bunch of chelsea chances, with 1-0 and at home, they are probably the best team of the world in counter attack.
 

Arnau

NGR LVR
this is a clear example about diferent football styles, our portuguese mates are defending barça style because looks like his one, and liverpool&co one do the replic with chelsea
 

vitu

Senior Squad
kp40;2662827 said:
Eurosport on Referee

26th Minute - Abidal on Drogba

Eric Abidal appears to tug and trip Didier Drogba in the box but the referee waves the appeal away.

Verdict: Has Drogba ever been told the story of the boy who cried wolf? A stonewall penalty for sure but perhaps years of 'simulation' have finally caught up with the Ivorian striker. It is hard to believe him whenever he goes down.

It's somehow payback for Drogba. He has been such a diving & whining cvnt for all these years which gave him a bad reputation with the refs.
 

Dytza

Banned - Playing with Fire
Socrates;2662809 said:
If you think that Henry was a penalty in the first leg than I don't see how you can say the one on Drogba is not? Abdial basically trys to tear Drogba's jersey off him and trips him in the process....how is that not a penalty?

I'm not going to argue in this discution anymore. Otherwhise "the opinions can't be discussed". I fyou have an opinion I respect it, if I have an opinion you must respect it ;). In refereeing on a decision it could be millions of opinions. but we must respect all of them. So, my opinion is: Penalty on Henry, no penalty on Abidal - Drogba, penalty on Pique ;).
 

Sevillista

Starting XI
You guys can debate penalties all you want. Iniesta's goal was sweet sweet justice for a team that has championed the art of beautiful soccer. The true injustice in this game would have been letting a team like Chelsea get through with the defensive/destructive tactics that they used. Regardless of how it happened, Barcelona deserve to be in the final. I celebrated that goal more than any non-Sevilla/Spain goal I've ever seen.
 
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Dipanjan

Guest
I always knew you were a Barca fan. Change your team dude. Nice opportunity to do so.
 

Dytza

Banned - Playing with Fire
Nady;2662948 said:
Barca fans here are so biased. Not worth it reading this thread. This thread SUCKS BIG TIME!

Ok . Useless post. If you think so you wouldn't have to post here.
 
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Dipanjan

Guest
I wanted a truce with you guys. But arnau rejected it. So you see who are arrogant here.
 

Luis Ah-Hoy

Senior Squad
cry me a river, Dipanjan... :sleep:


And Nady, i agree... some Barça supporters in here are a bit too biased. But some of them have strong reasons to be stubborn about their cases.
 

Dytza

Banned - Playing with Fire
Personally I don't have something with you :D I was not arrogant in the last post.
But all the users see Barcelona fans like Arnau. You are right to blame him for his arrogant mood but don't generalize it.

I read your post in barcelona thread and arnau reply. sorry.
 
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Dipanjan

Guest
Ah, yes dude. I have nothing against Arnau as well. He is like that and I know it pretty well. But some times it just gets a tad too much.

Anyways, Hoping for a great final.


Btw..Thanks for the neg rep Luis. I don't mind it.
 

Paulo Da Silva

Starting XI
bybuti;2662857 said:
Look, man.

I'm understanding what you're trying to say. But, the point here is: You are a big team (you tend to be at the same level with Barcelona), you're fighting for CL trophy, how do you pretend to win it? By defending all the time? Nah, com'on. It works. It works plenty of time. I agree. But, this time football won. Barcelona deserved to win if we watch both games.

I accept that referee was a crap, too. But, you can't say he clearly helped Barcelona. He was stupid. He lost the control. He gave a red card that wasn't to Abidal. He just did his job as he knew (that's wrong, but :(). He didn't intend to help anyteam. It's your mistake that you put a lot of pressure on him from the beginning.



and again, and agian :sleep::sleep::sleep:

1. Ballack - Red Card (First match)
2. Henry - Penalty (First match)
3. Ballack - Hand Ball (Second match)
4. Abidal - Red Card (Second match)
5. Messi - foul 17m from goal (Second match)



Lol. Funny video.

From those you showed only that pique's handball is a penalty. ;)

1. Malouda first makes a foul in Alves but putting his hand on Alves' face.
2. That's funny. Really funny. That contact there is nothing. It isn't the same case with Henry. Drogba was running and Abidal couldn't stop him by dragging his shirt. You can't stop a man like that. While, Henry is stopped when he takes the ball, and that dragging puts him down.
3. Penalty! (Ballack did the same in the beginning. ;))
4. Funny again. Eto'o just rotates to put save his face.

btw, you didn't even comment Madrid - Barça game and now you tell us what was a penalty and what not. lol

wow you are absolutely ridiculous

1. Malouda makes a foul...good one both were shoving and making contact then they get in the box and ALVES (who is a bigger douchebag diver than Drogba) clearly holds Malouda back and knocks him down = PENALTY

2.Henry is a penalty but that one isnt...you my friend need glasses, maybe even new eyeballs cuz your obviously arent working properly...you should take your Barca cloured glasses off cuz its clouding your judgement

LOL ETOO protects his face lol...that is just a retarded comment. Im gonna try that all the time, you know protecting my face while sticking my arms right out while blocking a potentially dangerous scoring opportunity

This is the last time I will even visit this thread...atleast to preserve any respect that I have for Barca...cuz it shouldnt be some biased people that change my views of this amazing club...expecially people who arent even from Catalonia let alone Spain
 
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Dipanjan

Guest
Dipanjan;2662710 said:
Let me reveal this here, I have lost my love for Barca because of arrogant Barca fans like bybuti and arnau.

night;2662717 said:
Same here man. Their replies are simply unbearable during times when Barcelona are doing well..

Nady;2662948 said:
Barca fans here are so biased. Not worth it reading this thread. This thread SUCKS BIG TIME!

Luis Ah-Hoy;2662985 said:
And Nady, i agree... some Barça supporters in here are a bit too biased.

Paulo Da Silva;2662998 said:
This is the last time I will even visit this thread...atleast to preserve any respect that I have for Barca...cuz it shouldnt be some biased people that change my views of this amazing club...expecially people who arent even from Catalonia let alone Spain

Barca fans just read them. You will understand that you guys are doing great service for your club.
 

Dytza

Banned - Playing with Fire
Dipanjan;2663005 said:
Barca fans just read them. You will understand that you guys are doing great service for your club.

I don't understand what you are trying to say.
 

Sevillista

Starting XI
Dipanjan;2662947 said:
I always knew you were a Barca fan. Change your team dude. Nice opportunity to do so.
You figured it out dude. (Y)

I have never hidden the fact that I am a Barcelona fan. But "my team" is and always will be Sevilla, even if they are relegated to 2a B.
 


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