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Ultima 2004 News Thread
- Thread starter schmeichel01
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well, so far there are three of us MLS fiends who propose the Galaxy's inclusion. you can say big clubs will be ignored, but hot darn, Holland, Czech Republic, Scotland, Israel and Columbia missed the World Cup. and oh my, Argentina flopped, Senegal beat France, the US went to the quarters beating Portugal and Mexico...
*ULTIMA 2004* The best clubs from around the world fight for the ultimate prize.
"around the world" implies outside of the UEFA Champions League and the rest of Europe, by the way. 4 Italian teams may be world class, but thats 1/8th of the teams from Italy alone. not counting Spain, England, Germany and Holland. The world is round, but. It doesn't end at that ocean, though you acknowlegde Latin America's existence.
"around the world" implies outside of the UEFA Champions League and the rest of Europe, by the way. 4 Italian teams may be world class, but thats 1/8th of the teams from Italy alone. not counting Spain, England, Germany and Holland. The world is round, but. It doesn't end at that ocean, though you acknowlegde Latin America's existence.
you have got your league already in the game some of us want teams that are not in the game - it will (hopefully) be easy enough to change one team and replace it with Galaxy once the patch is completed (wouldnt you want teams that are not in the game included)
Before you say well why Roma Milan Madrid and the like understand this patch is being made by Europeans for the world (Isreal is middle-east but i think its more european) and thous are fanatical about those teams and so are many in the USA about those teams.
There will always be disagreements about teams but this is True's patch not yours.
Originally posted by The True
I've read your and your mate's posts in the other ULTIMA topic,
but I've chose to reply here, so you'll see the post asking for Chelsea...
and Chelsea is out...
However-1: the patch will be partially with the CC
so you can always put in/out any team you want.
However-2: I still got lots of work on it,
(just to mix & edit the chants takes lots of time)
so I still have time to changes, but you can see that other big teams are out.
(and we only have 32 slots)
if more people would ask for an MLS team, I will include it.
fair enough?
I think that is fair.
Thanks for your consideration.God you idiots shut the hell up your so stupid no one give a flying hell about the LA Galaxy ok???You have your damn team in MLS just play with them in any other tourny in the game.There are teams from africa,latin america,north america,europe and i think oceania in the Ultima cup that is the whole world.BTW world cup has sh*t to do with clubs.USA did great in the world cup but face it................your clubs suck you dont even have real stads not to be harsh but dont go saying Shlomys work is crap just cause your crappy club isnt in the game.Chelsea isnt in the game so why the hell would galaxy be in the game?????Why dont you guys be like Universel and just chill out.
Indeed, but there is quality soccer going on all over the globe, not just in Europe; this argument parallels UEFA's lack of commitment to the notion of a Club World Championship (or a Confederation's Cup, about which I agree with UEFA btw)...Europe has this sense that the Champions' League is the de facto Club World Championship, as the best clubs in the world are known to reside in Europe. Oh, they'll deign to play ONE South American club in the Toyota Cup, but what Europe fail to realize is that everyone measures themselves by testing themselves, and what better test than Europe? In addition, Europe has never been a "lock" against teams from other confederations. Yes, they've won most, but they haven't really been in competitions that matter, except for the inaugural World Club Championship; and, if you recall, Man United abdicated the FA Cup to go and play, and were crushed in Brazil, plain and simple.
How do we REALLY know that this year's version of Jubilo or Kashima Antlers is - or is not - better than Corinthians, or Sociedad, or Chelsea?
Since FIFA Marketing AG has failed in their bid to promote the Club World Championship (actually the marketing partner TRAFFIC failed, but that's beside the point), one of the few ways we'll find out whether or not, for example, Galaxy match up against Hearts of Oak or Esperance or Arsenal is...
(drum roll)...
ULTIMA 2004.
It is True's patch, that's correct; but I thought he was wise and magnanimous in asking for club-related feedback from this community, so there it is.
Thanks again.
I have no problem mate, I was willing to "sacrifice" my own fav team,
(maccabi Tel-Aviv) to put in another team from another country,
but I can't see much of a fuzz around it.
anyway, since it's not like the last ULTIMA where no team was present at all,
this year we have most clubs, so beside the clubs added,
I'm trying my best to add some "color" to the ones which are present,
with searching the net to see how it's real flags look like,
with searching for chants, and mix them.
so even if the MLS is present in the game, I have no prob to add LA,
but I need to add it not cause 1-2 persons asked (with all the respect)
but, cause it have a demand from variety of people.
I think it's fair enough.
Easy there!
Whoa, slow down there...!
Our clubs suck? The whole point of this is, how do you know? Everything is talk, and talk ain't ****, until it is settled on the pitch, you agree?
We don't have real stadia? Whoa, easy there...coming from an Ajax fan (last time I was there, you had crazy stuff like the Amsterdam Admirals of American football and concerts playing there - and the consequent layout not of a "pure" football stadium, but one of - gasp! - an American multi-purpose complex, 17 grass field changes in the first 4 years of the Arena, and one was forced to buy these stupid Arena tokens to get anything to eat or drink there; in addition, ALL of the Ajax fans I know over there pretty much HATE the Arena as is gave up sightlines and seating positions to corporate hospitality suites where people leave before the match is over anyway...), that's dicey talk.
To just contrast, the Galaxy's new field at the Home Depot Training Centre will have NOTHING but football played on it. Period. So in terms of a "pure" football environment, which stadia is closest to the mark?
Remember, just because we live in the States doesn't mean we don't love, live, or maybe even work in the Jogo Bonito. The best of us know how life is in your neck of the woods too, and are not just reflective of the stereotypical myopic self-centered American image projected elsewhere in the world...in fact, one has to work so damn hard in America to be a part of the global football community in terms of access to information, matches, community interaction, etc., that often you will find that the Americans you might come across who do know something about football know an awful lot; they've had to work to find out, so they're committed.
No slight against you or Ajax, but it seems that you were submitting that the U.S. has all the stadium problems when I know that there are these issues all over the globe, and I was particularly aware of them on Arena Boulevard in Amsterdam...
I look forward to the patch; its been an invigorating discussion!
Whoa, slow down there...!
Our clubs suck? The whole point of this is, how do you know? Everything is talk, and talk ain't ****, until it is settled on the pitch, you agree?
We don't have real stadia? Whoa, easy there...coming from an Ajax fan (last time I was there, you had crazy stuff like the Amsterdam Admirals of American football and concerts playing there - and the consequent layout not of a "pure" football stadium, but one of - gasp! - an American multi-purpose complex, 17 grass field changes in the first 4 years of the Arena, and one was forced to buy these stupid Arena tokens to get anything to eat or drink there; in addition, ALL of the Ajax fans I know over there pretty much HATE the Arena as is gave up sightlines and seating positions to corporate hospitality suites where people leave before the match is over anyway...), that's dicey talk.
To just contrast, the Galaxy's new field at the Home Depot Training Centre will have NOTHING but football played on it. Period. So in terms of a "pure" football environment, which stadia is closest to the mark?
Remember, just because we live in the States doesn't mean we don't love, live, or maybe even work in the Jogo Bonito. The best of us know how life is in your neck of the woods too, and are not just reflective of the stereotypical myopic self-centered American image projected elsewhere in the world...in fact, one has to work so damn hard in America to be a part of the global football community in terms of access to information, matches, community interaction, etc., that often you will find that the Americans you might come across who do know something about football know an awful lot; they've had to work to find out, so they're committed.
No slight against you or Ajax, but it seems that you were submitting that the U.S. has all the stadium problems when I know that there are these issues all over the globe, and I was particularly aware of them on Arena Boulevard in Amsterdam...
I look forward to the patch; its been an invigorating discussion!
As true said you can change the teams in CC
once the patch is completed we will tell you how (if you can if not me or anyother Access editor will figure out how and modify it on personal request).
everyone happy now
the only thing you miss out on is Trues excellent flags and kits but wait and maybe things can change.
once the patch is completed we will tell you how (if you can if not me or anyother Access editor will figure out how and modify it on personal request).
everyone happy now
the only thing you miss out on is Trues excellent flags and kits but wait and maybe things can change.
Well, True there's no need to fuss or interupt your development of the patch over it. It's your patch; you'll neglect who you will and include who you will. The dominance of European clubs is noted, yes, but the rest of the world seems to be ignored (minus Latin American clubs of noriety). Honestly, 4 Italian clubs, 3 English teams, likely 3 German teams, and another probably 3 Spanish plus 2 Dutch, a Turkish, perhaps Scottish makes up at least half of your "Best Clubs From Around the World", making it seem contradictory that th majority reside in Europe. Granted, this is attributed to the quality of teams and your potential audience. Well, I can cry and bitch as much as I please, I suppose, only to no avail. I do feel it's a shame the league is ignored. Yet, continue with your patch, as it looks to be very polished and well-done. I especially like the flags you've made. It's too bad that the Galaxy are unable to recieve the same treatment.
Good luck with your patch!
Good luck with your patch!
abdu-milan2002
Club Supporter
Awesome!!!
Great flags
But there is somethimh about AC Milan flags, they don't have two stars, but that is still cool, great job!!!
Great flags
But there is somethimh about AC Milan flags, they don't have two stars, but that is still cool, great job!!!