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Updated online roster
- Thread starter stonecold_jpm
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stonecold_jpm
Youth Team
paramex said:
Stop whinging and get used to it cos PES6 will have updated team transfers as well.
I believe u guys (stonecold, gta) meant this as a good thing, BUT:
in online play, standards are the most important thing, that's why they invented PUNKBUSTER.
And if this post means anything:
gotta say: there goes the standard :X
but seriously, I can tell (or feel) there is obvious difference in playing against patched player, like the ball somehow bounces magically towards their feet. Takes the fun out of it, really.
For offline, I couldn't care less, online, I'm against it.
in online play, standards are the most important thing, that's why they invented PUNKBUSTER.
And if this post means anything:
Aix said:
gotta say: there goes the standard :X
but seriously, I can tell (or feel) there is obvious difference in playing against patched player, like the ball somehow bounces magically towards their feet. Takes the fun out of it, really.
For offline, I couldn't care less, online, I'm against it.
gotta say: there goes the standard :X
but seriously, I can tell (or feel) there is obvious difference in playing against patched player, like the ball somehow bounces magically towards their feet. Takes the fun out of it, really.
For offline, I couldn't care less, online, I'm against it.[/QUOTE]
How can you tell or(feel) there is obvious difference when nobody changed the stats for the players? You CAN NOT play with other players who have changed the stats for the players and updated them. I don't get it! I think it's your imagination. I am playing against guys who doesn't have the patch and they are kicking my ass. So please don't post these stupid comments. Just go practice. It's not the ''ball somehow bounces magcally towards their feet'', it is the part of the game...
Have a good day now...
but seriously, I can tell (or feel) there is obvious difference in playing against patched player, like the ball somehow bounces magically towards their feet. Takes the fun out of it, really.
For offline, I couldn't care less, online, I'm against it.[/QUOTE]
How can you tell or(feel) there is obvious difference when nobody changed the stats for the players? You CAN NOT play with other players who have changed the stats for the players and updated them. I don't get it! I think it's your imagination. I am playing against guys who doesn't have the patch and they are kicking my ass. So please don't post these stupid comments. Just go practice. It's not the ''ball somehow bounces magcally towards their feet'', it is the part of the game...
Have a good day now...
lazoli said:
Hoho, think u're smart eh, obviously u don't know first thing about programming language. If u wanna mess with a program, u gotta do it using the source code, not by hacking it. Many things can go wrong by doing it, in this case:
u do this patch, what happened?
lazoli said:
as a workaround, u do the kitserver, what happened?
GTA.utd said:
my point is the effect of these changes (patches, kits, etc) could create other issues, and while I cannot prove (yet) that my rant above is true, you CANNOT prove I'm wrong either. But bottom line is the standard is violated by using this patch.
Btw, quoted from konami website:
ONLINE USER AGREEMENT
(WORLD SOCCER Winning Eleven 9)
....
2. GRANT OF LICENSE.
.......You may not (i)
sublicense the Online Game, (ii) modify, adapt, translate, reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble the Online Game, (iii) attempt to create the source code from the object code for the Online Game, or....
nuff said.
stonecold_jpm
Youth Team
There's absolutely nothing else modified in the transfer file except the clubs the players who have been transfered to. Any kits, balls, nets, etc have nothing whatsoever to do with the player roster. If you don't want any of these modified then don't patch them and just use the transfer update on its own. NO STATS HAVE BEEN MODIFIED BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T WORK ONLINE IF THEY WERE CHANGED.
Updated transfers to July 9th:
http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=217617
Updated transfers to July 9th:
http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=217617
stonecold_jpm
Youth Team
nonghaofa said:
There won't be that much difference at all, cos i've been updating the transfers of footballtransfers.net which has near enough all the European transfers on there when they have been confirmed. The only differences would be if Konami change players stats and details and add new players not in the game of which i have done absolutely none of. If i have only changed which club the transfered player plays for, how exactly have i messed the game up if there is absolutely nothing else edited by me? Any kits, nets, balls etc is your own choice to update and has nothing whatsoever to do with me, applying the transfer patch won't change anything else.
BIJHEE
WHY are you ****TING ON THIS THREAD?? For your info, the kit problems have been addressed with the release of kitserver 5.2.
If Konami wanted to prevent people from playing online using these updated rosters, they would have done so. Do you know why they are letting people play with updated rosters? Why would they NOT allow online play for modified stats, but allow online play for modified lineups? I don't know, you tell me. But stop telling us what we CAN AND CAN NOT DO. DID WE EVER ORDER you to start playing with updated rosters??? NO.
NUFF SAID
WHY are you ****TING ON THIS THREAD?? For your info, the kit problems have been addressed with the release of kitserver 5.2.
If Konami wanted to prevent people from playing online using these updated rosters, they would have done so. Do you know why they are letting people play with updated rosters? Why would they NOT allow online play for modified stats, but allow online play for modified lineups? I don't know, you tell me. But stop telling us what we CAN AND CAN NOT DO. DID WE EVER ORDER you to start playing with updated rosters??? NO.
NUFF SAID
Italianguy141
Club Supporter
Thanks. 
GTA.utd said:
come on now, I'm not telling you guys what u can or cannot do, I'm only trying to make you see, that in online play, all players need to have the same ground. Now if this patch were released by konami, and konami required all online players to have it installed, we wouldn't have this argument, wouldn't we? Now, tell me u don't agree with me concerning my point above. U do, right?
Now, u said the patch doesn't change the stat. But now this method is open to public, someone could go ahead and transfer, for example, Adriano, Ronaldinho and ..... (insert big names here) to Chelsea, or any team, right? Can we still call it not cheating?
I would say it's a weakness in the program that konami didn't realize. It's a good thing they prevented modified stat from being played online, tho. I'm sure a more strict screening method would be applied in the future (WE10, hopefully?). Remember that konami isn't exactly a seasoned player in online scene (u do remember WE8 and all its suckiness, right?), unlike EA (with battlefield series), or Valve (HL). Also, this might have to do with the pricing of WE itself. $20 is less than half of what we pay for those games above, it tells us something doesn't it?
But in any case refer to the online user agreement I posted above. This kind of agreement applies in all online games, seriously.
Peace,
Ben
paramex said:
OK Let me put it like this. Your most important priority is consistent standard in the online competition. Kind of like the consistency you may find in games such as Battlefield or Half Life. Correct???
Now
The main reason some of us are playing this game is a bit different. We play WE9 and not FIFA or some sensible soccer shat because this game and only this game provides the realism in simulating the goings-on around the pitch during a football match. Do you care about realism? Do you follow real life football in Europe? Do you care that Berbatov and Zokora will be playing in England with Tottenham now? Do you wonder about how the style of their play might be affected by the said transfers? Do you care about the ludicrous buildup of players by Abromavich that is happening as we speak? I guess not, cuz you are just some online gaming whore that only cares about ranks and how 'standardized' the competition is.
Additionally
If you are worried about some guy (how can this even enter your mind neway) making a special transfer patch for himself that has all the best players in the world, you are simply on the wrong page bro. Just think about it. That person will never get more than 1 game with me, or anyone else for that matter. Would you play him more than once if his innocently picked team turned out to be the World All star squad? Simply put, he will never last in this oh-so-important-to-preserve-the-standard WE9 online competition. His name will be shamed and bagged away. He will never get the hundreds of games required to climb up the ranks in this competition. I am sure he will get a few anti-climatic maturbation sessions out of it though.
Lastly
This is just my observation and may not be true. When I am playing a team with newly transferred players, their teamwork seems to suffer a bit. This is consistent with what would happen in real life.
stonecold_jpm
Youth Team
Updated transfers to July 13th:
http://www.zshare.net/download/updated-transfer-file-13th-july-dkz.html
http://www.zshare.net/download/updated-transfer-file-13th-july-dkz.html