In response to an earlier thread praising the efforts of easports and fifa 2005 , well i must admit to being a pes3 fan first , and also i must admit to wanting the new fifa 2005 to be a better game than all previous fifa games which i think it probably is, well apart from worldcup 98, but after playing fifa 2005 for a season i have to agree with the remarks of DI SMITHIO about the scripted gameplay, deep down i knew inside that although the kits and player names were correct it would still be plagued with terrible gameplay, offcourse pes is the greatest soccer title ever to grace the pc or console's, to be honest i feel a little guilty for ever trying to believe fifa would be anything else than it is the pretender pes really does rule the roost!