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Who'll win the champ.league?

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GALATASARAY

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Ukrainian:
RR seems a nice guy. i don't mean that i hate the russian people.


RR:
you guys have a strong european team. i am wishing spartak moscow the best luck
 
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Ukrainian

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2GALATASARAY
I don't know RR,may be he is a nice guy.Anyway I've never said he isn't.
As to the russian people-you wouldn't like them if you knew them as well as we do.wait until russian fans come into Turkey and you will see yourself!
you should read what russians think about your nation.I bet you wouldn't like it.
 
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Russian Rocket

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Ukrainian, here's a number one thing -- I am not the fan of Spartak Moscow. Here's a number two thing -- I like both SM and DK. Here's number 3 thing -- I like when at least Spartak went to the next stage of the CL. Here's number 4 thing -- nonetheless we are great this year, once in a while. Here's number 5 thing -- I say we are great when we are great.


Here's number 6 thing: this what I wrote:
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Manu will win it for sure.... as for that Arsenal fan -- you posted your message after Spartak beat you 4:1... And why are they outsiders? The lost to mighty Real and Bayer Leverkusen, but that's it 'cause we have won all other matches......
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I just wanted to ask that Arsenal fun (not Gunner) why he put SM as outsiders when we beat Bayer, Sporting Lisbon 3:1 at hom 3:0 away, and his club Arsenal 4:1. Then you came in and said that we will be fucked in the remaining matches. THAT IS JEALOSITY. IF YOU WOULDN'T SAY ANYTHING, IT WOULDN'T BE. JUST THE FACT THAT YOU WANT SM TO LOOSE ALL THE REMAINING MATCHES UNLIKE I DID WHEN DK PLAYED IN QF WITH JUVE..

And about those Spartak fans -- they are wild. Most of them are violent. Thank god I am not one of them. And I only support my HOME country club, country where I came from. And if you want to know, I NEVER EVEN BEEN TO ANY CITY THAT IS LOCATED IN EUROPEAN RUSSIA. As for Sheva -- I have never ever seen journalists say that he is Russian. But for sure he speaks Russian as he speaks Ukrainian, even better.


So it was you who started it. But you know, you weren't the first. There was a DK fan who called me a piece of russian shit for nothing. You are not alone. I don't care what you think about russians, but the problem is that I know what evry single Ukrainian thinks about them. Youg got this all wrong, man.
 
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Gunner

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RR:
I know your last post was addressed to the other Arsenal supporter and not me, but I'll reply to it anyway....
I reckon,(Ukrainian's gonna kill me for this), that Spartak Moscow will top the group. They will definately, repeat DEFINATELY, go thru to the next round. Arsenal will come 2nd
while Bayern will come 3rd thanks to a mysterious glut of injuries sustained when they came to Highbury

As for RR saying I did'nt see the game, press conferences, didn't know anything bout footy, blah blah blah.....
I watched the game, press conferences etc like any true fan of his club and maybe it would help explain our loss if I told you that Arsenal have failed to win a match in November apart from a fluky 1-0 win v Boro in the Premier League (Boro r 3rd Bottom)
So the loss was more or less in the script for Gooners to be honest.

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Russian Rocket

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I just didn't like the way you described Spartak (f*cked pitch, etc)... There are reasons why Arsenal lost. And pitch is not one of them -- it was hard for Spartak too. And weather was not the problem -- Henry still was flying, maybe not he usually does, but still.. And we had 3 black players playing for whom the weater should have also been a dissadvantage (for some reason it wasn't).

Arsenal lost because you did not have Bergkamp and Vieira, because you played a lot of games when Spartak was resting for the whole week, and because over 80,000 screaming fans came to see the game and root for Spartak. Also, Arsenal had the chances, had the possetion, but could not capitalize on that (like they do lately)...


Personally, I was grim coming to this CL. And I still think that it is a challenge for Spartak to get at least 2nd place. But they are not outsiders for sure.


as for Ukrainian -- that is jealosy. I was also jeaulous and happy for DK before. But I never wanted them to loose. I never said that Spartak qualifies to the next round every year, unlike DK used to do. I am just happy for my country club, the best from my country and I don't give a shit about who hates themm who doesn't.
 
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Russian Rocket

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"...As to the russian people-you wouldn't like them if you knew them..."


that is what he thinks about Russians.

[This message has been edited by Russian Rocket (edited 11-27-2000).]
 
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Ukrainian

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2 GUNNER
Why are you so sure about SM?

Let's have a bet

I'm SURE that Spartak Moscow won't qualify for the next stage.If all the matches were played in the autumn they would manage to do it.as they say,their team is "on the way" now.But the point is that only one match is left to play NOW.the rest of them will take place in spring.And in spring russian teams are in terrible form,due to lack of practice.
I don't think they'll be able to gain a single point in those matches

So,LET THE "MEAT" SUCK!!!!!
 
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Charlie Firpo

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Bayern München & SS Lazio are the best clubs.
English and french teams are shit....just shit....they will never win !!!
 
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Gunner

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I was actually being sarcastic, the group is pretty certain to have Arsenal and Bayern go thru from it, while RR is going out of his way to insist that, no, Arsenal weren't irretrievably crap,(which at the mo, they r), but that somehow SM actually had the SKILL to win!!!!! SM did not play that well, Arsenal were shite, Pitch WAS shite, and DID affect AFC more than SM, while the crowd didn't play a part at all, because our team of world-beaters are used to that when they play for Ukraine, France, Holland, England, Rep. Of Ireland, Austria, Cameroon, Nigeria, Argentina, Sweden, Brazil, Wales, Latvia and Ivory Coast. (Well, maybe not the last two!)
Honestly, I hope to GOD that this run of bad form for AFC is just for November.
BTW one of the goals was OFFSIDE.
At the mo, LJUNGBERG is our best player, and WENGER won't bloody pick him!!!


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Jari Litmanen

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Yeah RR don't make it such a big deal that it was -10. Of coarse we have colder temperatures I am sure Russian fans go to matches when it's colder. Gotta go to hockey!!!
 
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Russian Rocket

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I never made a such a big deal of it. I just posted ONE message saying that we are NOT an outsiders in the group. After that the Ukrainian began to tell how Ukrainians and other world hate Russians, how Dynamo Kyiv has a better record in the CL, and, of course, how Spartak will get fucked in the next CL games. Also, he said that Ukrainians as whole arre tired of us Russians making the fuss our Spartak's good campaign. I DID NOT MAKE A DEAL OF IT.


I JUST POSTED ONE MESSAGE WHEN I GET ATTACKED BY YOU ALL. I NEVER SAID SM WILL GO OUT OF THE GROUP, AND I EVEN SAID THAT IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE.


Gunner -- no, the pitch affected both teams. Spartak's style is not crosses and heading in the net. Spartak's style is passing on the pitch, short passing, and many complicated combinations from it. On the pitch that was in Luzhniki it was not possible... Arsenal just got tired from 4 matches in 1 week and they missed their players like Vieira and Bergkamp. That's all.

Jari -- Spartak had 3 black-skinned players on the pitch. Both teams were in equal conditions, but the crowd, Ginner, mattered.... it did (80,000 people cheering for the opponents is a lot)
 
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Gunner

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RR;
Your last post was b*llocks, start to finish.
Also, I watch every AFC game I can, and I definately know WHEN they play, thus I can tell u that we only played 2 matches that week, not 4!! R U ON COKE?!?!?!

Question: I read that Spartak usually play in the Lokomotiv Stadium, (30,000), so why did they play at the Luzhniki Stadium (80,000), in midweek?

Finally, SM played rubbish; It's just that AFC played worse than rubbish.....

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Russian Rocket

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My post was bulshit? I am just telling you all here that YOU attacked me, and it was NOT me who was making something of it. I definately did NOT want to read how Ukrainians hate Russians, ok? And did not want to hear that Dinamo Kyiv had a better CL history than SM just because I know it. And, of course, I did not want to hear how you Gunner explained the Spartak Moscow's game style to fuck the pitch and get luck on the road.
WHY IS IT BULLSHIT????


As for what other Arsenal fans think about the game, go to http://www.anr.uk.com/articles/m-2000-11-23-21-51-42.html


here's a part from it:

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Spartak varied their points of penetration often enough to avoid predictability.


They attacked and defended in packs, winning the ball and slicing forward at speed, especially when they were trying to equalise. Most of the match was played at a furiously fast pace, and the maestros of Mockba alternated between working the ball through the middle and feeding the overlaps of Baranov, which Pires did not track.


Their style combines the scientific and the artistic, with invidividual improvisations often so subtle as to be almost invisible within a highly-defined and repetitive team pattern.


The geometry of their possession & support is wonderful, reminiscent of Dynamo Kiev, whose energy, intelligence and technique make the beautiful game look simple. You think : why can’t other teams play like that?
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Apparently you are the one who is thinking differently...


P.s.

Spartak played on Lokomotiv about 2 years ago, but this was the second season they played on Luzhniki, starting from Spring 99.
 
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Russian Rocket

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Also, just because I messed up the fixtures, doesn't mean I am on coke... I just heard the press-conference on Sky Sports News where some player said "Spartak had one week off since their season ended, but for us it was 4th game in a week"....

Sorry for that..
 
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