Why I Think Fifa Is The New Pes!!!!

[raffupperv12]

FINALLY I GOT MY Xbox 360 back from Repair and was able to tryout Fifa 07, My firts impression was how incredible the graphics were and then on the loading menu I can already see that the shooting in the game is the best I have seen in soccer gaming to date, it feels real and has logic to it, not like in past FIFA installments where I could have my back turned to goal and simply take a shot and have it go in the upper corner of the goal. Just to say it again, the shooting is better then past fifa's and even current Pro Evo's, it simulates the precision that it really takes in real life to get a great strike on target. (Also thee goalkeepers seem to be better as well) Also I like how the CPU also has trouble get a shot on target.
Then I got to playing an exhibition match, I immediately saw the difference but had one nagging feeling, that the players were not moving as freely as in the loading screen and that was frustratig me (they seemed to be limited), the players seemed to be like robots but then thanks to this forum and the wonderful people here that post, I realized that its exactly like Pro Evo, in that you have go to the settings menu and controller seting and move the assisted CPU slider and asssisted passsing all the way to zero (Or all the way to the left). WOW what a difference that made my players were cutting more precise and my passing was more on and controlled.
The AI is very interesting in like OVNY and LUVPES stated in past threads, it seems that you never play the same type of game twice even if you play the same opponent again and again....let me explain. It all depends on how you set up your formations and how you change your tactics within the game, the defenses move very well as well as the players seem to support the attack very well. They also tend to pick up on your attackin tendencies.
Scoring, the few times I got to score I felt the same excitement that I did when I purchased my first Pro Evo and saw how difficult it was to score and life like, and in turn celebrated enthusiastically because of how complicated it was to score and how when I did score it actually felt like an accomplishment.
To sum up in on the positives of the game, I feel that FIFA finally is getting it right and as I play more and more and get better at the game I know will discover more things about the game that I like as I did with Pro Evo, I can't wait to get online and get some matches, but first I have to improve.
Some complaints that I heard were about things outside the game which really don't bother me (Like More Leagues, Stadiums, Cuts scenes) b/c I know that FIFA will fix them, but complaints about game play such as the crossing, to me it seems pretty spot on, of course its hard to get a header in the game, its not that easy like in real life, maybe the headers can be a bit more powerful, but I think if we play more we will find the right way to get a perfect header, remember practice makes perfect. (Well actually thats something that bothers me, no practice mode.)
Finally what I like is that the game has, is that its not predictable, like in past FIFA you knew where to go to always to get a goal on the field or how when you did score the CPU came back through the middle of the field and score with ease.(Rubbish). All in all great game which will hold me over hopefully to next year. If you guys know anything else oabout settings type things to improve teh game let me know.

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

Nice raaffup! Glad you like it. Actually, yesterday, Robinho crossed to Ronaldo and Ronaldo actually attempted a header even though the ball landed where his foot would have been. I didn't expect that and it gave me more proof of very little scripting. It was very spontaneous. Love it! I'm doing manager mode now and am doing very well so I'll have to step it up to pro level for the next season. Anyway, I really can't understand all the bad reviews. I guess these were reviewed by non football people who had a quota/deadline, were handed this game to play once or twice and got fed up with it cause they weren't into it or didn't have the open mind or patience to dig in and understand the nature of football physics.

 

[raffupperv12]

Your right OVNY, a great game cannot be reviewed by just a glance, I think people that reviewed the game (IGN) had a preconcieved notion of FIFA (Negative feelig towards the game) and they just decieded to slam it. But their loss. I am enjoying it, am belive me I can be just as crtical as the next guy but I have to give FIFA credit good game, with the potential to be a great installment in years to come, the only thing is I want to see how it plays online, we'll see I imagine good?.

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

I gave up on Fifa since I picked up my first WE/PES 2 years ago. I thought I never go back to fifa. Hated 2006 PS2/Xbox versions. I thought I was missing out on soccer games for years. Now I picked up this 360 version and it's not even close to previous fifa's. They started off the next gen phase with a bang.
Ohhhh, online? perfect. Lag free, easy to setup games. "I likee eets very nicee!"
This is the foundation for next gen fifa and it's solid. I'm already looking forward to next years.

 

[raffupperv12]

ONLINE SOUNDS GREAT, wil try probably in a week, thanks OVNY

 

[RicFlair]

In fairness to PES....FIFA has taken almost all of their innovations....movable players in formation editor going to the PES gamepad having a choice I should say of "New(PES) or classic ...and just the overalll feel....

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

In fairness to PES....FIFA has taken almost all of their innovations....movable players in formation editor going to the PES gamepad having a choice I should say of "New(PES) or classic ...and just the overalll feel....

Very true. Raff and Ric, have gamer tags? Let me have it so we can coordinate matches. I'll send you messages.

 

[RicFlair]

Very true. Raff and Ric, have gamer tags? Let me have it so we can coordinate matches. I'll send you messages.

kocur26

Won't be until about 7PM tonite US time..

 

[raffupperv12]

Ricflair, your exactly right, it is a knockoff of PES's breakthrough innovations, but its what I always wanted:the innovations and gameplay of PES and the authenticity and graphics and great online play of FIFA, best of both worlds in my opinion. I am not dissing PES as it has given me great joy, but the truth be told PES has been on a stale mate for the past 2 years, in my opinion, still a great game but needs to give us a bit more in where it lags, i.e. graphics & online play (A lot of lagging!!). I am not saying I will not be picking up Winning Eleven in January when it comes out in US but just saying that FIFA is catching up, big time!

Gamertag: raffupperv12, won't be up and running until thursday online. Have a business trip coming up.

 

[SYMO]

I agree REAL MADRID FIFA is catching up bigtime, lets not forget what they are catching up on tho, its not the whole game its only part of it and that was the gameplay and ball physics, PES dominates there, but it fails BIGTIME in every other area in the game, PES provides a realistically free feeling world to play football in, but that world is in fairyland, a drab, blandy, boring one.

Now as far as FIFA07 360 goes replace that noddy world with reality, and a vastly improved physics system, along with some style and you end up with not only a catch up, but an overtake, PES's shamefull next-gen title was a foot on the brake, while FIFA had their bigfoot on the gas, its easy to see, i really really like this game, there are things that can be improved certainly but the more you play this game the better you get at creating that freedom in an exciting enviroment, PES has to boot it hard for next year, it can be their only excuse for a poor showing, its a good gauge on PES's future.

 

[LuvPES]

I agree REAL MADRID FIFA is catching up bigtime, lets not forget what they are catching up on tho, its not the whole game its only part of it and that was the gameplay and ball physics, PES dominates there, but it fails BIGTIME in every other area in the game, PES provides a realistically free feeling world to play football in, but that world is in fairyland, a drab, blandy, boring one.

Now as far as FIFA07 360 goes replace that noddy world with reality, and a vastly improved physics system, along with some style and you end up with not only a catch up, but an overtake, PES's shamefull next-gen title was a foot on the brake, while FIFA had their bigfoot on the gas, its easy to see, i really really like this game, there are things that can be improved certainly but the more you play this game the better you get at creating that freedom in an exciting enviroment, PES has to boot it hard for next year, it can be their only excuse for a poor showing, its a good gauge on PES's future.

It's like you reached into my head and just pulled the words out, it's true what they say, "Great minds do think alike"

 

[raffupperv12]

SYMO,
I agree on every level what you said, especially about playing the game more is how you get more freeedom. The more you play the more you improve, but not in that arcade way as other games were in the past, b/c then all you had to do was play the game a bunch of times to see where the tendencies are in the defense so you can pretty much score everytime, thats what PES always had (NO TENDENCIES) and what FIFA is obtaining, no tendecies in the game (Or if any very few) every match feels different; even every attack seems different, last night I played Liverpool vs. Werder Bremen and I saw some space on the right side and attacked it but a minute later that same space was not there anymore and I had to be more creative and alert to find new gaps, just like in PES and in Real Life. I like the direction that FIFA is taking hopefully it keeps that momentum for next year and keeps PES more on its toes so that they keep up as well, so we can have 2 great football games to choose or even play.

 

[SYMO]

Yes guys 2 great football games is what most of us true football fans want, i dont care who makes it, in my mind i have the perfect game, just counting down the years till im playing it lol.................what im am most pleased about tho is the efforts FIFA make, ya gotta give them credit for that, they have really made a playable game and my hat is off to them well done, i wont take my hat off to PES tho, my pants will do instead.

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

Yes guys 2 great football games is what most of us true football fans want, i dont care who makes it, in my mind i have the perfect game, just counting down the years till im playing it lol.................what im am most pleased about tho is the efforts FIFA make, ya gotta give them credit for that, they have really made a playable game and my hat is off to them well done, i wont take my hat off to PES tho, my pants will do instead.

I take my hat off to Fifa too. I have been boycotting them for a few years because their gameplay, especially ball physics were shyte. I always felt as if I was being held back. With this 360 version, I feel pretty free. Still needs work but the foundation is there and I'm sure it'll be easy to fix the gameplay for next year. At least they won't spend the whole year developing an engine. They've done that and now hopefully they can spend a year maxing out gameplay, adding leagues, etc.

 

[LuvPES]

I take my hat off to Fifa too. I have been boycotting them for a few years because their gameplay, especially ball physics were shyte. I always felt as if I was being held back. With this 360 version, I feel pretty free. Still needs work but the foundation is there and I'm sure it'll be easy to fix the gameplay for next year. At least they won't spend the whole year developing an engine. They've done that and now hopefully they can spend a year maxing out gameplay, adding leagues, etc.

Don't forget graphics, when I see games like Gears of War and Mass Efeect, I know this game can look a hell of a lot better, at least add better textures, when I zoom in on the soxs the cloth texture is not there, don't belive me? look for yourself and if you have a Madden game or NHL 07, zoom in on their sox and and unis and you will see a huge difference, just that little thing can add a lot to the graphics, making a more realsitic look.

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

Don't forget graphics, when I see games like Gears of War and Mass Efeect, I know this game can look a hell of a lot better, at least add better textures, when I zoom in on the soxs the cloth texture is not there, don't belive me? look for yourself and if you have a Madden game or NHL 07, zoom in on their sox and and unis and you will see a huge difference, just that little thing can add a lot to the graphics, making a more realsitic look.

I totally agree with you. I give the GFX an 8.5 I've seen the crowd in NHL 2K7 and it makes ours look very bad. I am not totally convinced by the graphics. I've read many people rave on and on about them but to me it's not overly impressed. But then again, they rushed this game anyway. At least next year, they'll have no excuse. Now that they have the foundation, they can build upon it. By the way, I keep hearing about GOW, I hear it has the best GFX ever seen. Have you played it yet? I'm waiting for my copy from Gamefly

 

[Miki23]

I totally agree with you. I give the GFX an 8.5 I've seen the crowd in NHL 2K7 and it makes ours look very bad. I am not totally convinced by the graphics. I've read many people rave on and on about them but to me it's not overly impressed. But then again, they rushed this game anyway. At least next year, they'll have no excuse. Now that they have the foundation, they can build upon it. By the way, I keep hearing about GOW, I hear it has the best GFX ever seen. Have you played it yet? I'm waiting for my copy from Gamefly

Mate, saying that graphics in GoW are best ever seen is understatement. It is THAT good!!! Every other game now looks like crap... (gameplay is awesome too)

 

[deftonesmx17]

By the way, I keep hearing about GOW, I hear it has the best GFX ever seen.

I've seen better graphics out of the 360 than GOW, its not as impressive as people want to make it out to be. Sure its better than FIFA's graphics but there are other 360 games that look just as good and sometimes better.

 

[LuvPES]

I've seen better graphics out of the 360 than GOW, its not as impressive as people want to make it out to be. Sure its better than FIFA's graphics but there are other 360 games that look just as good and sometimes better.

May I ask what game?

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

I've seen better graphics out of the 360 than GOW, its not as impressive as people want to make it out to be. Sure its better than FIFA's graphics but there are other 360 games that look just as good and sometimes better.

Just as I thought...Deftones just loves to disagree. You can tell him he's the coolest bloke on the planet and he'll argue with you. You can tell him that life exists and he'll take the contrary just to disagree.