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Why people play FIFa?Its a game for the kids,see atachments to get proof.

ranabir

Club Supporter
Why people waste money in buying FIFA?Year after year they produce the same horrible gameplay,and whats more the game graphics rendering engine is one of the worst that I have ever seen.Yes,PES doesn't have full licenses but what about FIFA?They inspite of having licences,have wasted them.The fifa licensed kits are too bad to comment anything.Let it be adidas,Nike,puma,or anything,not a single kit has proper collar.And is that the way players sprint?Sprinting in FIFA looks like ants running.And there's a million of bugs in the game.Right from FIFA 2005 I am seeing when the ball comes near the screen(Tele or Sideline camera) the ball vanishes.The keeper comes out through the nets!Suddenly the referee starts moving around a circle fanatically for no reason.And have you seen what Drogba does with his face in FIFA 07??And the latest bug,ball goes through Robinson's leg bone only to concede a goal.My oh my God,please make me a fool or else stop EA producing FIFA!
Yes,for you guys,who like great Menu,huge glamour,big ambience,do play FIFA,but those who love football,then FIFA is not recommended!!
In FIFA you have sweet spots,special zones from where you can score goals everytime.In WC2006,I found once I cross all defenders and its a One to One case,I go at one side of the net and shoot at the other end,and its a GOAL always.And there are other tricks that would reward a goal using the same tactic again and again.FIFA gameplay is one of the worst and mostly the moves are expected.I intercept their passes in most cases because keeping an eye on the player's position,what is to be done can easily be predicted.Add to it the fact that is that the way a player dribbles?Which player in the world makes dribbling so fast?Dribbling in FIFA looks like a game for the kids.

And for PES,I agree,it doesn't have full licences(that too because of some other brand who has taken full endorsements only to produce foolish,kiddish football game),but those which have licences aren't pathetic like FIFA.It has correct collar,great grahics engine,and a superb gameplay.Once you are in the game,you will feel you are watching a real football match.The players look like real ones and so are everything.The game is not something where you can predict things.Freekick at the same position with the same player and same shooting power applied may not give you a goal second time.ANd thats the beauty,nothing can be predicted.There are no sweet spots from where you can score goal freely.PES is all about football gameplay,its all about constructing the game from the defence to earn a goal,and NOT mere banging of balls at the nets.If you are patient enough you can change to formation and role of each player to the last screw.Which players are to marked,to what extent,which should be the line of attack,what should be attacking strategy,how the individual players would run in the specified directional formation,how the keeper should tackle players,how aggresive the players should be,and the list continues.That's called making to the last screw.If licenses are of major concern,then there are ways to get full licences,its only a matter of patching.And once patched,FIFA in no terms comes close to PES.

I had been playing FIFA since FIFA 98,but except World Cup Korea Japan 2002 no FIFA made me happy.Then I came across PES,and from then on I am Playing PES,with all patches inserted,I get peace of mind;at least I play a football game,not a game for kids.
And thats the only one reason all major gaming tournaments that features football now uses PES and NOT FIFA.

Here are some screen shots,check out to get the difference of the two.
ANd a link for PES goals,(I scored those);I think that would clearly give an idea how good PES is.Have a look how players should sprint.
 
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elhelmiey

Guest


lol

 

easyeasyeasy

Senior Squad
Its amazing to think that even FIFA 2003 has better graphics than FIFA 2007 :|

PES graphics have always been better though some of the kits in PES6 looked terrible!
 

Soovija

Youth Team
elhelmiey;2325429 said:
HE POSTED NICE IMAGES


I am Sorry , but think with your brain not with your ....

FIFA pictures are rendered it is for sure. Pes6 pictures hasnt AA and AF turned on ant they are taken on low resolution. I managed to check and the FIFa pictures had AA and other stuff on.

SO DOnt make such compares that cannot be right :)

ONE MORE THING:
I can make some pictures. I have HD kits and AA /AF max with 1280x1024

With HD kits and AA on - PES WILL BEAT FIFA !
 

ranabir

Club Supporter
Soovija;2325602 said:
I am Sorry , but think with your brain not with your ....

FIFA pictures are rendered it is for sure. Pes6 pictures hasnt AA and AF turned on ant they are taken on low resolution. I managed to check and the FIFa pictures had AA and other stuff on.

SO DOnt make such compares that cannot be right :)

ONE MORE THING:
I can make some pictures. I have HD kits and AA /AF max with 1280x1024

With HD kits and AA on - PES WILL BEAT FIFA !

Whats AA?? Anti Aliasing?
And does AF mean?
 

easyeasyeasy

Senior Squad
AF means Anisotropic Filtering, which enhances the image quality of textures of surfaces that are distant, which makes the scene renders more realistic (at the slight expense of performance). I've got PES6 with AA and AF at maximum and it looks better than normal albeit you can still see some jagged edges on the player models when close up. But it still looks far better than FIFA on the PC, which isn't helped by the horrible "plasticine-like" player models and terrible font rendering on kits reminiscent of dodgy 3DFX rendering of the late 90's!! :D

I am still amazed that FIFA 2003 on the PC was the best looking, graphics-wise, of the FIFA's on the PC platform. Really don't know what EA's graphics designers did from 2004 onwards, it still doesn't look right in FIFA 07, and unless they start changing things dramatically for FIFA 08 (and making it more aligned to the 360 version) then PES will still look the better (and in some respects play the better) game I'm afraid.
 

ranabir

Club Supporter
easyeasyeasy;2343092 said:
AF means Anisotropic Filtering, which enhances the image quality of textures of surfaces that are distant, which makes the scene renders more realistic (at the slight expense of performance). I've got PES6 with AA and AF at maximum and it looks better than normal albeit you can still see some jagged edges on the player models when close up. But it still looks far better than FIFA on the PC, which isn't helped by the horrible "plasticine-like" player models and terrible font rendering on kits reminiscent of dodgy 3DFX rendering of the late 90's!! :D

I am still amazed that FIFA 2003 on the PC was the best looking, graphics-wise, of the FIFA's on the PC platform. Really don't know what EA's graphics designers did from 2004 onwards, it still doesn't look right in FIFA 07, and unless they start changing things dramatically for FIFA 08 (and making it more aligned to the 360 version) then PES will still look the better (and in some respects play the better) game I'm afraid.


Yea I got it the meaning of AF and AA right after posting the query from the Graphics Card menu.
However when turned on I find PES to be blacked out with miserable slow performance on the pc.
Anyway I personally feel the best FIFA game was World Cup Korea Japan 2002 if I consider the the graphics rendering system,the kits,the AI.
But with 2003 onwards they started to follow KONAMI's technique of creating a face model and superimposing a real photo.That was not the case with WC 2002.The entire model was created by some 3D studio,no superimposition of images over the player model.
In the process the faces of the FIFA consists of the face the hair and the neck.
The neck can move in sideways and up down movements are made at the joint of the shoulder and the face. Thats the reason the player look down in doggy style.
FIFA are not keen to change so many player face model,so you can take it from me that for some more years they would keep their "doggy style look down" mode.
And the biggest of all FIFA is said to be licensed but is this how license kits looks like?Adidas has round collar,brazil has round collar,the adidas 2006 fonts are not present in FIFA 2007,Netherlands black fonts are not there.Its horrible in one word.God knows why they say FIFA are licensed.
And the pathetic part is the gameplay.
When I play in World Class mode I always feel that I am made to play bad and the computer is set to play well.
Ronaldinho cannot overtake a player from Pakistan during sprint in WC 2006 is not at all justified.
Just a few days back I sent a pass to the keeper and the keeper went inside the goal post to get the ball,only to concede a same side goal.
A defender of the opponent team kicks the ball towards its goal line and the ball shoots over the center line.
I have already posted how the ball goes through the body of Robinson and these errors are not justified.
I try for through pass and in world class mode I have seen again and again that the ball does not go in the direction I intend for but to some other direction and opponent player intercepts to get the ball.
This is not done.
IN world class mode If I play well then I must be given fair chance as it happens in PES,but in FIFA the game is set in such a way that you will be made to play badly.
Its pathetic for any game.
 

Napoleonic_sp00

Club Supporter
elhelmiey;2325429 said:

that was a BAD WAY to support the argument

FIFA has.....

relatively better lighting
Depth of Field
better shadowing
sharper ground textures
and more polygons

than PES.
that way, you were making silly attempt.
 

flyinfifa

Club Supporter
how to view all the pictures ?

by the way,i think pes is no way to lose to fifa except for licesens.

Anyway,patches make pes much more better and i now cant think of a pes version without kitsever.
 

snoppf1

Senior Squad
ranabir i saw the photos, this is really realy biased

a fully patched pes vs dodgy fifa pics

e.g. your camparing steve finnan on both games where finnan doesn't even have a face

ill do the comparing since im not biased and i love both games
 

elhelmiey

Reserve Team
snoppf1;2385520 said:
ranabir i saw the photos, this is really realy biased

a fully patched pes vs dodgy fifa pics

e.g. your camparing steve finnan on both games where finnan doesn't even have a face

ill do the comparing since im not biased and i love both games

haha they really love and have to do that so they can say they are right. it's totally unfair for comparing in that way. oh btw may be they're just too young to think wisely. egocentrics. 12-year-old maybe... :funny:
 

Styphelus

Youth Team
Again I must ask, why do PES owners always have to try to reassure themselves that they are indeed playing the better game?
 


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