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Ratinho

Club Supporter
Just out of interest, does anyone actually know Chammas, because it doesn't seem like he has ever played any of the PES or WE games, as he doesn't seem to know any of the main points about them correctly.

Just out of interest.

But no doubt I will get a 'shut up kid, Fifa has the best'

Or something of that ilk.
 

AndrewC

Youth Team
Originally posted by Chammas
The through balls it self are good but the bad play without ball is what ruins it. If konamo learn from fifa where you can make players run it will be a more deep in the play without ball.

Yes, this confirms that he has no idea about PES. PES off-the-ball is much better than FIFA's. And also, the same "trigger player runs" button for FIFA is in PES and does pretty much the same thing.
 

Chammas

Senior Squad
Originally posted by AndrewC
Yes, this confirms that he has no idea about PES. PES off-the-ball is much better than FIFA's. And also, the same "trigger player runs" button for FIFA is in PES and does pretty much the same thing.

On what grounds do you say off the ball is better than in Fifa?

This only confirms you have no idea about Fifa.

First of all what bugs me is the forward runs who is almost at zero and when you want to progresse (sprinting with the ball) on the wing eg the player who already stands at the wing is going back instead of taking a position in the deep or go wide the play up.
 

AndrewC

Youth Team
Originally posted by Chammas
On what grounds do you say off the ball is better than in Fifa?

This only confirms you have no idea about Fifa.

You really have no idea do you. Do you really think I have no idea about FIFA? I'm a regular in the FIFA 2005 forum, and in case you haven't noticed I've even previewed the game. I think FIFA 2005 is a great game. If anything users of this forum would think I'm biased towards FIFA.

If you really think off the ball is better in FIFA than PES then you really are biased. How many goals with midfielders do you score in FIFA compared to PES? In my time playing FIFA 2005, 90% of goals are scored with strikers, mainly because off-the-ball (which includes midfielders and defenders, not just strikers) could be improved.
 

ashrafwolf

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I agree with chammas i play we7i like 7 hours a day . sometimes i have the ball with me and one on one with a defender and there is a team mate beside me and he f****in stand still and never made a move to make my magic through .
 

Chammas

Senior Squad
Originally posted by AndrewC
You really have no idea do you. Do you really think I have no idea about FIFA? I'm a regular in the FIFA 2005 forum, and in case you haven't noticed I've even previewed the game. I think FIFA 2005 is a great game. If anything users of this forum would think I'm biased towards FIFA.

If you really think off the ball is better in FIFA than PES then you really are biased. How many goals with midfielders do you score in FIFA compared to PES? In my time playing FIFA 2005, 90% of goals are scored with strikers, mainly because off-the-ball (which includes midfielders and defenders, not just strikers) could be improved.

Hmm... You say it's better in PES but doesn't say why...

I score exactly as many goals with midfielders (not many at all) in PES as in Fifa. Maybe more in Fifa beacuse of the of the ball play but why I score few goals with others than the strikers is only beacuse of my style of play. I like to center it through fast forwards and counter with fast passes and invidual moves.
 

Hans

How big is YOUR penis?
Originally posted by ashrafwolf
I agree with chammas i play we7i like 7 hours a day . sometimes i have the ball with me and one on one with a defender and there is a team mate beside me and he f****in stand still and never made a move to make my magic through .
Ever crossed your mind that the CPU is makin` an offside trap so that your standing still teammate can`t just go all the way upfront ?
 

Chammas

Senior Squad
Originally posted by Hans
Ever crossed your mind that the CPU is makin` an offside trap so that your standing still teammate can`t just go all the way upfront ?

I don't say he should go to the other teams goal:kader:

He should take a offensive position even if it is sideways but he should go back or just stand still. And if you are 2vs1 or something and it is an offide that menas it suck. It's the easiest in the world to beat.
 

ashrafwolf

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I was watchin' a match for arsenal (as always) bergkamp had the ball he throughed it to henry and GOOOOAAALLL
i thought it was offside then at when the camera was changed i noticed HENRY looking at both sides to be as the same line as defence they take 1 step back he did also the time the through was done henry was a wind to the net .
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN' ABOULT
 

Chammas

Senior Squad
Originally posted by ashrafwolf
I was watchin' a match for arsenal (as always) bergkamp had the ball he throughed it to henry and GOOOOAAALLL
i thought it was offside then at when the camera was changed i noticed HENRY looking at both sides to be as the same line as defence they take 1 step back he did also the time the through was done henry was a wind to the net .
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN' ABOULT

Are you talking about Fifa? It sounds like it.


If it's PES you talk about I want a video or screen that can prove it cause I find it impossible for being PES 3
 

ashrafwolf

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NO i'm talkin' about real match i saw on t.v
and i'd like if pes had this kindda of thin'
 

Chammas

Senior Squad
I also think so. I surely will go to PES if they get more licenses and the spanish league availble to play.
 

gargoyle

Club Supporter
Originally posted by Chammas
I also think so. I surely will go to PES if they get more licenses and the spanish league availble to play.

the spanish league is fully licenced and completely implemented into pes4:rockman:
 

jsvensson

Club Supporter
Originally posted by gargoyle
oops spelled it wrong.
i meant: "ifpes gets the same licenses fifa has, fifa will lose 70% of its public."
A good example of proof for this is the Italian league licence. Konami have all 18 clubs in Serie A licenced, EA only have 9-10 in FIFA 2005.

That is a start, hopefully one day PES will have as many licences, if not more than FIFA.
 

Chammas

Senior Squad
Originally posted by jsvensson
A good example of proof for this is the Italian league licence. Konami have all 18 clubs in Serie A licenced, EA only have 9-10 in FIFA 2005.

That is a start, hopefully one day PES will have as many licences, if not more than FIFA.
Do you talk about PES4?

Cuase PES3 do not have all Seria A license?

In Fifa you can play in Serie A.
Hope you can in PES4?
 


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