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Winning Eleven 10 Thread

TristanAbbott7

Starting XI
Internazionale said:
have anyone heard rumorly PES6 (PS2) will be on the E3 ?! :o

could this mean North America will get a PES6 instead of waiting 4/5 months after European's PES6 ?

Basically no! And it's more like 7 months.
 

INFESTA

Official
There's one thing that absolutely ruins the game for me:

I play in 5 stars mode and you know when you work hard to save that 1-0 lead and then, right on the final minutes of the match, some bloke takes a weak shot at goal and my goalie lets the thing slip between his fingers - actually it's as if he had no arms - and BAM... there goes my PS2 out the window.
I understand goalies make blunders, but this happens way too much, and somehow it has a tendency to occur in the last minutes of the match. Coincidence? Hmm...

It's a shame Konami didn't try its own game before releasing it - how can you not notice the stupid gk blunders!? This is something we'd expect from EA, not the WE/PES series architects...

Besides that, I see very little changes in this new version. I honestly don't know how you can spend a whole year developing a game to come up with only slight improvements.


Having said that, we all know that whenever a new version of PES/WE is released it takes time to adapt to the gameplay. Take the pain to be rewarded later.
So far it's been only pain.
 

Mayor

Starting XI

faceNside

Starting XI
Mayor said:
:O wow, quite impressive
I guess it's just from cinematics and not ingame graphics, life couldn't be that good :P anyway, Gran Turismo looks stunning mostly because of replays so even it's "just" replay graphics it's a major step forward
I don't know, it could actually be ingame graphics... Have u seen NBA2k6 for instance?
 

The_Knight

Senior Squad
They ARE in-game graphics.

Intro CGI cinematics are MUCH better than that... just watch any WE/PES intro over the past years.

What worries me is that in both pictures there is no 'grass' or 'pitch'.... which is one of the best features of next-gen Fifa graphics... very very detailed...
 

samuelbarros

Banned [Life Threats]
Life Ban
C'mon guys, face it, WE10 is an embarassment. This is not what made us fall in love with PES. This game is so obviously a bridge too far that it makes me cringe. It offers nothing "new". It's just PES5 but with a slightly different flavour. I'm so glad the internet exists so I can download this game and not have to pay for it, because it's not worth 40 cents, let alone $40.

Konami, shame on you. PES/WE was once great, now it looks like a pathetic mess. Go and think hard about how you want to treat your loyal customers. In the future, I'm not paying for more of the same old scritped crap, so get your act together if you want my money.
 

Henry

Club Supporter
Well, I think its a well more balanced game then WE9 if you play it
with 5 stars. I know 3 stars or less sucks because you could just
dribble through the opponents like FIFA.
But in 5stars, the press gets harder and the cpu gets more intelligent,
way more then WE9. The offensive side of cpu in WE9 was just boring
and really su**ed. In WE10, there are more variations on how the
cpu tries to get a goal from you.
The downside of WE10 is the GK, which just boots the ball to the PA.
I know GK`s boot the ball often, but not so the ball would land in front of the goal
really often...Good GK`s mostly boot the ball so the ball would land
outside of the shooting course.
And about fouls, yes its got better because the refree doesn`t blow
the wistle often like he did in WE9, but now its on the opposite side.
There are sometimes ugly fouls that should be taken, but the
refree does nothing. I`ve felt this in every series, SEA BASS is just extereme.
There`s only "1" or "10", theres no "between" inside him.
But overall, I like the game better then WE9.
 

MightyTic

Senior Squad
just watched a could of gameplay vids there , and the defence even on 5star was poor. There was a player running up the wing out near the sidelines and even when he was level with the box, the defender that was running with him (I say with him) I mean at least 5 or 6yrds inside him and at no time did the defender veer his run towards the player on the ball, the defender just ran parallel with the player on the ball. As I said, the defender was at least 5 to 6yards inside on a parallel run.

looks to easy ...

All I wanted was the fould toned down, through balls to work and few others, long balls to get over the last line of defence and my players (the ones with the correct stats ) to out sprint the cpu players with lesser stats.
 

Henry

Club Supporter
The same type of thing happened to me in WE9 too.
More then that, in WE9 the defense (CB) just opens a dribbling course....
The cpu was dribbling to the center of the PA and the CB which I wasn`t
controlling just ran towards the sideline and opened up a
dribbling (or a shoot) course.... So I think WE9 was more horrible
in that perspective. (I don`t know about PES5, btw.Only WE9.)
I WE9 the offense was really horrible and all fouls too.
I think WE9 was the worst in the series...

BTW, I`ve heard that 7International has the best gameplay in the series.
 

The_Knight

Senior Squad
MightyTic said:
All I wanted was the fouls toned down, through balls to work and few others, long balls to get over the last line of defence and my players (the ones with the correct stats ) to out sprint the cpu players with lesser stats.

They say that's exactly what's improved in WE9 Liveware Evolution Korean...

Konami is so messed up. Releasing different versions of the game to every country.

WE10 is just an attempt to lure Fifa gamers, by fast arcady gameplay.

Looks like the game I'll be getting will be next-gen WE11... when they have it properly balanced.
 

Henry

Club Supporter
The_Knight said:
They say that's exactly what's improved in WE9 Liveware Evolution Korean...

Konami is so messed up. Releasing different versions of the game to every country.

WE10 is just an attempt to lure Fifa gamers, by fast arcady gameplay.

Looks like the game I'll be getting will be next-gen WE11... when they have it properly balanced.
I don`t think that its really that acrade-ish.
But I do agree "compared" to previous versions (7 and after).
(6FE and before were more arcade-ish. So you could say Konami went back to there old style.)
I think WE10 is just well balanced between arcade-ish and a simulator.
But for core simulator fans who like 9 or PES5 might be disapointed.
But I like the agressiveness in WE10. If I were to make an example,
I would say, WE9 is like Serie A and WE10 is like Liga, because
9 is more defensive and 10 is more agressive and has more
variations.
 

MightyTic

Senior Squad
Henry .. I take it by your comments you have played WE10 ..


I would like to know a few things, Is there still a need for the Super Cancel buttons , as in your player(s) stopping mid run when a cpu player is going for the same ball, or players standing at the edge of the penalty box not moving toward a pass at them unless you use SC .. Is all that still there ??


Is the invisable wall still there at throw-ins , where you can't get within 10yrds of the throw-in .?


Do not if you play a 2 player game (2 player v cpu) but i do with my son , and the amount of time we have seen this .... I pass to him , he goes on a run I then press L1 to take control of a player on a run that is forward of my sons player , as soon as my control icon appears above the player , he turns from his run forward and runs towards my sons player with the ball. Its only after a yard or so that I can get him back under control and facing and running forward again ...

Do you know if this happens in WE10 ?
 

Henry

Club Supporter
MightyTic said:
I would like to know a few things, Is there still a need for the Super Cancel buttons , as in your player(s) stopping mid run when a cpu player is going for the same ball, or players standing at the edge of the penalty box not moving toward a pass at them unless you use SC .. Is all that still there ??
Yes, you`ll still need the Super Cancel Button.
For example, when you "through pass" to a player,
that player sometimes runs almost parallel with the ball.
And the CPU gets to it first. So you`ll need to press Super Cancel and get to the ball first. This has been in every series...
I don`t know why they won`t fix it.


Is the invisable wall still there at throw-ins , where you can't get within 10yrds of the throw-in .?
Yes, its still there.

Do not if you play a 2 player game (2 player v cpu) but i do with my son , and the amount of time we have seen this .... I pass to him , he goes on a run I then press L1 to take control of a player on a run that is forward of my sons player , as soon as my control icon appears above the player , he turns from his run forward and runs towards my sons player with the ball. Its only after a yard or so that I can get him back under control and facing and running forward again ...
Sorry, I`m not really familiar with this problem.
I`ve only played 1 player vs 1 player.
 


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