You can change the FIFA bodies! NEOGB!

[The Don't]

Well it's obviously really, any RAV files can be changed whit rhino by using neovico's invention. It looks interesting, because you can change the sock height, boot size, leg width and chest size!!
Plus more!
This is a new era in FIFA editing!


STILL CAN'T GET NEOGF TO WORK: NUMBERS WRONG ORDER DAMN

 

[Nebo]

Coooooooooool!!!!!

 

[BolzerMike]

resizing the bodys and parts of the bodys isnt new at all, as its possible with convrav for more than a year now !

3D editing (adding, changing and moving polygons) of the original EA rav-files (stadiums, bodys or whatever) might be a big step forward, but anyway it works with FifaManias Rav Files

 

[emmer]

how many .RAV files exists in FIFA? i mean, changing one body, how many player will have their bodies changed?

 

[BolzerMike]

exactly this is the main point, all players will be changed when you change the players bodys or parts of the body !

So it makes no sense e.g. to change the socks, because all players would have changed socks.

 

[Alenitchev]

Well, when I wanted to make a small 70's patch for FIFA 2001 (never released), I could have used tighter jerseys, higher shorts, and thinner socks (no pads).

For classic patches, it will be a usefull resource.

 

[hiryuu.com]

Originally posted by Alenitchev
Well, when I wanted to make a small 70's patch for FIFA 2001 (never released), I could have used tighter jerseys, higher shorts, and thinner socks (no pads).

For classic patches, it will be a usefull resource.

yep it will be useful, like having longer shorts for a World Cup 30 patch...

 

[Number9]

Cool, I agree that this could be a good recource.
Plus, would it be possible to use FifaFX to be able to put the .RAV file into a seperate teams folder?
It would be great to be able to have a retro looking classic team, (with its rav in its folder), playing against a modern team which uses the default one!
Cheers
Nath

 

[hiryuu.com]

Originally posted by Number9
Cool, I agree that this could be a good recource.
Plus, would it be possible to use FifaFX to be able to put the .RAV file into a seperate teams folder?
It would be great to be able to have a retro looking classic team, (with its rav in its folder), playing against a modern team which uses the default one!
Cheers
Nath

I don't think that's possible, you could put it on a league (example: The Mexican patch of 1920) but NOT on a specific team as it will be used for both teams...

 

[neovico]

Yes, is true that any *.rav file can be edited with my technique. Is obviously.

But...."resizing the bodys and parts of the bodys isnt new at all, as its possible with convrav for more than a year now !"-BolzerMike"

....hmmmm... are u sure? in real time??? in 3D??? in a few steps without copy/paste a lot of digit lines??? i think that not...

Is not only a big step, is a revolution on FIFA.

Wait for the faces, bodies, stadiums, etc, that now all people can be done as they want.....and u will see....

Yes, is true that resizing a body or a boot, all the players have the same look, but....where is u imagination boys??? Have u think in create a team of trolls, editing the head, body, etc, playing soccer????....This was imposible until now.

Keep the good ideas, and let u imagination fly!!!!

To Thomas:

Yes, i have notice that the rhino esportationg makes mistakes in some configurations, now we are working on it (is due that some rhino configurations makes aleatories ID´s without order). It happend to me too.
Anyway if u have oportunity to test on other computer or with a diferent OS, may be it works

Take care

neovico

MIND IN ACTION

 

[emmer]

just wondering

how the textures are applied over the 3d model? i mean increasing the shorts for example, its textures will have more distortions cause they will be stretched over the 3d shape?

and what happens if you change the head a lot... how it influences on the faces modeling?

 

[scouser09]

you could make the players turn into girls by giving them boobs

 

[itam]

3D editing

Originally posted by neovico
Yes, is true that any *.rav file can be edited with my technique. Is obviously.

But...."resizing the bodys and parts of the bodys isnt new at all, as its possible with convrav for more than a year now !"-BolzerMike"

....hmmmm... are u sure? in real time??? in 3D??? in a few steps without copy/paste a lot of digit lines??? i think that not...

Is not only a big step, is a revolution on FIFA.

Wait for the faces, bodies, stadiums, etc, that now all people can be done as they want.....and u will see....

Yes, is true that resizing a body or a boot, all the players have the same look, but....where is u imagination boys??? Have u think in create a team of trolls, editing the head, body, etc, playing soccer????....This was imposible until now.

Keep the good ideas, and let u imagination fly!!!!

To Thomas:

Yes, i have notice that the rhino esportationg makes mistakes in some configurations, now we are working on it (is due that some rhino configurations makes aleatories ID´s without order). It happend to me too.
Anyway if u have oportunity to test on other computer or with a diferent OS, may be it works

Take care

neovico

MIND IN ACTION

Well as Bolzer, said it´s very easy to chage the body sizes!!

As for what your what your so called technique of NEOGF, well i think that is a very good DISCoVERY, but on what is based your techique, well it´s based on the discovery of a program, wich can import .txt files, where there are a lot wich can do that, but all of them cost program, there´s even a program wich makes faces wich such a reality that you can say wow :-P

I hope you don´t get anoyeid but it is the truh Neo, you did a good job congratulations, but nothing out of this world, what is great are programs such as convrav and fifamania utilities.

As for making stadiums and editing everithing, is all very easy, the only advantage whe have now is the ability to preview in 3d the stadiums or the faces, wich in this way we can aport easyness on constructing in 3d!!

Well just keep your good work coming, cheers:
Matias Reis

 

[neovico]

To emmer:

Well, in 3D the textures are applied using a map of coordinates called UVW map. If the surface have a determinate dimensions, this map center and strech the texture over the surface, for this reason is better to use big textures that u can manipulate better.
After if u can resize the UVW map or his TILING(the position of the texture over the surface or the polygons). The UVM maps includes BOX,CYLINDERS,SPHERES, ets, any 3D object.

Nothing happend if u change the headshape a lot, if u know what are u moving, after it the only cost thing is make an apropiate texture to apply to the model. Scouser idea is great, girls with boobs, hehehehe, cool, a pity that EA dont think in make motion capture of the boobs, lol.....

To itam:

-im not anoyeid, Diego, Vogel and me are plenty of happy with NEOGF.

-Well, u said that is very easy to make bodies...hmmm...where are ur creations??? i cannot see them.....

-Rhino is not a cost program because u have a crack, if u dont hear it is not my problem, anyway i preferd to invent it with RHINO and not with 3DstudioMAX or Lightwave that are very compicated to do, almost for people that doesnt knows 3D.

-"Theres a lot of programs that import txt files", well, and after it...how u import u modifications to the game as with NEOGF easy method.....What program order the id´s digit lines????=ANSWER=NEOGF tool by Diego...and...if u knew this...why dont u invent it???

-"there´s even a program wich makes faces wich such a reality that you can say wow "....yes...but remember that we are working at low polygon...not a real 3D with models of 40.000 polygons....

- "As for making stadiums and editing everithing, is all very easy"...yes...sure....copy/paste method....very funny man....

- Yes conrav and fifamania programs are great.

- NEOGF nothig out of this world??? ok, lets turn the time back and keep the discoverd only to the people that dont say fool things.

If i answer of this way, is not because im considered a master a god or a this fuk ****ttttt things. I answer of this way because i dont understand to the people that u give a good thing, program or anything to work, a thing to enjoy toghether, and they refused it....really i dont understand.

But nevermind, as i said is not my problem, i know that the most people apreciate this discoverd to make better his faces, bodies, stadiums, etc......They are inteligent. Thanks to all mates.

And as always, i will continue working for make better all the works on fifa, and give my knowledge of it to all the people for make better his art work on the game, they are part of the revolution, yes, i make the step but on the long way we run togheter. Hope u understand me.

Take care

neovico

MIND IN ACTION

 

[itam]

Sorry

Originally posted by neovico
To itam:

-im not anoyeid, Diego, Vogel and me are plenty of happy with NEOGF.

-Well, u said that is very easy to make bodies...hmmm...where are ur creations??? i cannot see them.....

-Rhino is not a cost program because u have a crack, if u dont hear it is not my problem, anyway i preferd to invent it with RHINO and not with 3DstudioMAX or Lightwave that are very compicated to do, almost for people that doesnt knows 3D.

-"Theres a lot of programs that import txt files", well, and after it...how u import u modifications to the game as with NEOGF easy method.....What program order the id´s digit lines????=ANSWER=NEOGF tool by Diego...and...if u knew this...why dont u invent it???

-"there´s even a program wich makes faces wich such a reality that you can say wow "....yes...but remember that we are working at low polygon...not a real 3D with models of 40.000 polygons....

- "As for making stadiums and editing everithing, is all very easy"...yes...sure....copy/paste method....very funny man....

- Yes conrav and fifamania programs are great.

- NEOGF nothig out of this world??? ok, lets turn the time back and keep the discoverd only to the people that dont say fool things.

If i answer of this way, is not because im considered a master a god or a this fuk ****ttttt things. I answer of this way because i dont understand to the people that u give a good thing, program or anything to work, a thing to enjoy toghether, and they refused it....really i dont understand.

But nevermind, as i said is not my problem, i know that the most people apreciate this discoverd to make better his faces, bodies, stadiums, etc......They are inteligent. Thanks to all mates.

And as always, i will continue working for make better all the works on fifa, and give my knowledge of it to all the people for make better his art work on the game, they are part of the revolution, yes, i make the step but on the long way we run togheter. Hope u understand me.

Take care

neovico

MIND IN ACTION

Hi Neo, i´m sorry and i´ve seen I have explained myself badly!!

Well first in my defense, I think it´s easy but in a certain way, as it is easy to do it, but takes lot´s of times and even months...
I can create Stadiums and etc.. and all doingt it without copying or pasting it, if you don´t believe me i can post here soem screens of my MRA stadium wich I created from 0. I know also how to chance faces and all that, but it´s hard to make faces and it becomes easiaer to do it with your "technique".
Well i think it´s easiear to work with 3d that with Rinho and those anoying points.

And yes i know what a crack is, I am not any lamer, i´ve been around FIFA since 1999, you can check this to see since when i´m registered in these forums.

Latelly i´ve been of and didn´t made nothing since FIFA 2001. But i made lot´s of works, like the PSP(portuguese superpatches), many other patches, kits, faces(a face for FIFA 2000 the Darth Maul face and many other), pitches(which where my first work) and I can do it by myself other things, like I created for myself, bigger balls textures(the so caled 3g balls), I made for me 3G adboards(bigger adboards textures, wich result in the increase of the quality and they work in 32 bits). This last thing works for FIFA 2002. I can make Stadiums from 0, I was able to make cups in FIFA 2000, well but I don´t wish to show what can I do!!!

As for changing sizes of heads and all that you can do that with convrav, and one easy touch of a button, as you can add shadows in that way also. .-)

I think you all do great work, and the best thing is that we do it without asking any money and with all the pleasure and always disposed to help the others! I just can´t invent programs because I don´t know programing and I din´t even toke any easy PC course in all my life, I learn everithing by myself and losing many hours.

As I said before your job is great, don´t get anoyeid, as I know what is doing our best and then some ugly lamers say that our work sucks, just because they´re ignorant. That´s one of the reasons because I left my continous work in the FIFA community.

Cheers and if you need any help please just give a call:
Matias Reis
[email protected]

 

[neovico]

Ok, is cool that any people choose the technique that they want, perfect, and yes, is posible to make a stadium from 0 with other techniques(i did it) but as u see i never made a review about all the methods, because i respect the work of the people that creates it, i reserve my opinions, if is a good tool is ok for me if not nevermind....i will never waste my time saying "hey man u works sucks or u work is nothing out of this world"...u know... And i dont need that u put any screen of u work.

Anoying points????----this "anoying" points let u create perfect an realistic faces......

"I am not any lamer, i´ve been around FIFA since 1999...."- Thats ok, great for u, but the time doesnt means anything, is a relative thing...u know....

I dont need that u explain all the works that u made, is like a trying as saying...."see man....see...im very good on this"...god...is a children thing......

I just cannot invent any program, only a technique....

And i have not time to be anoyeid or give disscusions of this kind......only time for work on fifa.Final DOT.



Well mates, Diego is working on a english,spanish and french patch for the NEOGF tool. Also we are trying to solve the problem that some rhinos versions makes that the lines order will be wrong. The NEOGstadiums technique is in a beta fase...we are improving this new technique too for make perfect stadiums, or any arquitechtonic thing that u can imagine, buildings, dungeons, etc.....and, too, we are working on to solve where is the information of the vertex conection for make that rhino represents the mesh too. Stay tunned. Revolution is here....

Take care mates

neovico
MIND IN ACTION

 

[emmer]

thanks for answering my questions neovico

btw i like the scouser idea so.... hahah, great, great...

hey neovico i know you are MUCH busy right now but when you have some time you could try making a girl FACE... because i think it would be harder than making the body.

hope i'm not annoying you so much...

 

[neovico]

Hmm,,,,u are too much clever mate!!!, The hard part for me, and the funny part, boob, butt, for u!!!! hahahahahaha..lol.....

Well, as u say im very busy now, but i will try to do something

Take care

neovico
MIND IN ACTION

 

[DiegoChiappussi]

About the meshes

I think the key is in the exported file from conrav..when you export a file from conrav as a txt there are many filters..maybe one of those allows us to import the mesh to Rhino.

I´m working on the prog maybe one of u can try that

Cheers

Diego