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2013 Ballon d'Or

Arnau

NGR LVR
Mus;3330670 said:
Löw shouldn't be in there, he lost to a very inferior Italian side

Italy is better than Germany, and i'm not talking about players, if you watch Euro games Italy football and collective performance is much richer than Germany's
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
Arnau;3330688 said:
Italy is better than Germany

This is just not correct in any way. They won the game, that's all that really matters. But on paper? Judging the individuals by how they play at their clubs? No way.
 

Mandieta6

Red Card - Life
Life Ban
Only Drogba and Neuer from the CL finalists? Every year I think it's unfair that players get in here solely based on their team winning the CL, and this year is the opposite. These awards are bull****, everythingis bull****.

I honestly can't believe there is any keeper on that list that isn't Cech. Did he not keep Chelsea in the CL a bazillion times last year? It was him, Drogba and Ramires (and Mata, sure) who got Chelsea those titles, but at least Cech was brilliant throughout the year, not like Drogs who would only play well in the big matches (not that I'm complaining).

Who cares anyway? Pep/Mourinho for the coach, Ronaldo/Messi for the player, no one else in football matters.
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
Turns out it had nothing to do with finalists; Barca is always a finalist, but that's not why their players win these awards. I agree that Messi should win and Ronaldo is second, but you can at least put our players on the finalist list. And I completely agree with Cech over Neuer. Not even close.
 

Mus

Fan Favourite
Buffon was pretty good, conceded the least goals and was a big reason for undefeated season, but yeah Cech was huge in the CL
 

Filipower

Bunburyist
Yeah discussing this as the 20 finalists makes much more sense than the two/three who take it. I mean honestly, two of Messi's prizes should have been won by Sneijder and Iniesta.
 

chygry

Starting XI
It was anti-football that won Chelsea the CL, come on you have to admit it... although you are better this season. And yeah Cech is class.
 

Arnau

NGR LVR
Germany were not close to his top in Euro, should have lost against Portugal and Italy were so much better on the semifinal
 

Dytza

Banned - Playing with Fire
Del Bosque to win best coach. Can't talk about Messi vs. Ronaldo. Much more balanced duel this year, at least in terms of statistics.
 

Mandieta6

Red Card - Life
Life Ban
I don't think either of them deserve it, honestly. Klopp, sure had a great double-winning season in Germany, but absolutely abysmal in Europe, and the opposite is true for the this seaosn. Pirlo has been meh this season from my understanding, didn't even play in Europe last season, and despite a good showing in the Euros, his team lost the finals. I think continental achievements should have more weight, they've always had.
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
You guys are just tired of Messi. Same reason why Steve Nash won the MVP over Shaq. Just give it to the best player. Messi has literally had the greatest year for a goal scorer in the history of the world. And he's also his team's primary playmaker.
 


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