ABOUT THE KEWELL DIVING INCIDENT

[Kewell the Jewell]

This is my say about it...........

I think that people are making too much of this Kewell incident...i mean give the guy a break!

There is alot more diving in the Premier League but it doesnt get noticed because it doesnt occur in the penalty area......Alot of people in the Premier League dive in the 18 yard box but the ref sees this and doesnt give a penalty.....but with the Kewell incident the ref gave a penalty. Maybe Kewell shouldnt have dived but the ref gave it and it won the game for Leeds. Maybe you should be blaming the referee because if he saw the dive and didnt give a penalty nothing would be made of it.

im not saying what Kewell did is right but it happens all the time so dont single him out.

And for all you Non English football followers who think that every year the Premiership is only contested by a few teams every year (Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea) maybe you should take a look a who is top of the Premier League????
LEEDS UNITED!!!!

Going for Premiership, UEFA Cup, FA Cup and League Cup.

PS. To all my Russian friends who before the Leeds - Spartak tie were saying how they were going to win and calling Leeds cheats. Spartak are nothing but complaining little babies!

 

[GOONERBHOY]

Look i`m probably just as big a fan of Kewell as you, mean the guys a footballing genious. However to me his dive was well a surprise. I mean he`s one of the cleanest and fair players in the world today and when players like him start diving the game is in trouble.

Leeds top of the prem eh, remember Villa about this time last season!

[This message has been edited by GOONERBHOY (edited 12-15-1999).]

 

[Kewell the Jewell]

Dont worry goonerboy!!

Leeds have the depth to go all the way!!!!!!!

Its Arsenal u gotta worry about!!

 

[PolishPower]

Here's my take on the whole controversy:
The only reason this has been so blown up by the press is because Kewell is a foreigner! Owen takes a dive in the Argentina game and does anyone even say a bad word about it? What an ugly bunch of hypocrites they are! They create this controversy to sell papers.

English press has been consistent in blaming the foreigners for all that they perceive to be wrong with the game. They hate foreigners! Some of them were taking stupid racist poll and saying they should kick out all the Swedes from the English leagues if they did not beat Poland!

 

[GOONERBHOY]

Kewell,
Depth, don`t go there.........

PP,
What`s this, kicking out the Swedes i havent heard about that.I don`t get what the Swedes have to do with Poland.

 

[Kewell the Jewell]

Goonerbhoy all Arsenal is a club full of money hungry players who dont care about the clubt hey lay for.......well most of the players there arent like that but they are all the time plagued with controversy like Petit and his complaint how the French are picked on in the Premier League.(which may be true)

Or with nik Anelka who was a great player while he was there but was unahppy and left.
On the other hand Leeds are a close knit club who are YOUNG and have a huge future. There are no big names there but they are top of table and still in all their competitions.

And for your beloved Celtiv i dont really take an interest in the Scottish league but arent Rangers top with 2 game in hand?????

 

[ozivillan]

Kewell should be banned for at least 10 matches yet again leeds were looking a draw right in the face as they have done on a few occasions this season and so we resort to cheating to claim victory and 3 points, and to make things worse that toss pot of a manager even came down on Kewells side and said it was a pen, all this acting only makes the players look pratts and i for one would like to see the use of the third referee for insidents like this

 

[Kewell the Jewell]

ozivillan ...if u think that every player who dives should be banned for 10 games then u will find 5 a side games most weeks.....

and u said 'we' in your post. if that means that u go for Leeds then you should be ashamed of yourself...

 

[ozivillan]

Hi
it would be a shame if leeds took the title with a couple by a couple of points, i wonder if mr kewell would go around telling his freinds that they won the title because of his cheating, i once again say that in these curcumstances the use of the 3rd referee would be not only a good thing for the game but also as a deterent to these so called profesionals who look for a penalty,
at the end of the day it is no better than taking drugs, the end result is to win at all costs

thanks
up the Villa

 

[Canoe]

Polish power and Kewell, did u guys actually see this dive ?? This was without a doubt one of the 'best' dives I ever seen, seeing as he was literally a foot away from the player who allegedly tackled him. There's quite a bit of diving in the prem league, and Owen did dive against Argentina in the WC, but 99% of the time some contact is made. Kewell wasn't even touched. And this is exactly what I hate about soccer, cheats. Players diving when they weren't touched, players falling down in agony after another player touched his face or even came close to it. Just a pity that so many refs are caught out week in and week out. And what Kewell's dive so worse, was his reaction when he got up. He was delighted to have won the penalty, he blatantly admitted to cheating.
Polish power, as for Owen's dive, contact was made, which makes the refs task a bit more difficult. And enough with the press story, remember how they harassed Shearer when they alleged he was gonna quit Newcastle ? After an england game he absolutely went ballistic on the press, it was rather funny in the end.
Kewell, don't call Arsenal one thing and then change it in your next sentence. Leeds hasn't got one player there who's been as committed to their club for as long a time as Adams, Keown, Winterburn, Dixon and Seaman. Controversy ? Do I need to mention Hasselbaink ? And with a bench that includes full internationals throughout I don't think you need to worry bout Arsenal's depth,cept maybe for their defenders with Upson now out for rest of season. Rather worry bout when Radebe or martyn get's injured or suspended or unavailable ( like the african cup of nations for Radebe, that should put him out for almost 4 games )

 

[Woody_007]

I think anyone who dives should be suspended.
It makes the player and the team look bad. It bad for the sport and for the fans. Look at what happened to Beckham when Simeone won an Oscar in France.

by the way .... Leeds on top?? Wait ... Arsenal are just getting warmed up.

 

[Kewell the Jewell]

Woody 007 are you saying that beckham didnt deserve to be sent off????????
he got sent off not because of the injury to simone but because the intent was there......beckham deserved to be slaughtered but the press cause he did one of the stupidest things ive ever seen in a world cup game!!

and canoe......99% of the time people who dive have been hit with some contact.........what are you on???!?!?!?!
have u seen some of the dives that people take?!
i admit hat kewells dive was bad.....BUT THERE ARE ONE SIMILAR IN EVERY GAME!!!!!
the only diference is that the ref didnt pick up on this and awarded a penalty......
Kewell was wrong yes...he is not proud of what de did.....but does this make him a cheat???
Does this make every player who has ever dived a cheat????????????????
Think about what you say before you say it..

And who cares about the internationals you have on the bench what does it count for if u are still 3rd in the table and cant even get past the first round in Champions League?????

Leeds have depth to cover Lucas's absense. Duberry can cover for him or even Haaland can slot back in centre of defence.

The only reason why Arsenal are good is because they have money.........
and they will need it after theyre whole defence retires in a few years.
On the other hand David O'Leary gives his youth first team action unlike Arsene Wenger who gives his spoilt brats a first team spot no matter how baldy theyre performing.......

 

[Kewell the Jewell]

Woody 007 are you saying that beckham didnt deserve to be sent off????????
he got sent off not because of the injury to simone but because the intent was there......beckham deserved to be slaughtered but the press cause he did one of the stupidest things ive ever seen in a world cup game!!

and canoe......99% of the time people who dive have been hit with some contact.........what are you on???!?!?!?!
have u seen some of the dives that people take?!
i admit hat kewells dive was bad.....BUT THERE ARE ONE SIMILAR IN EVERY GAME!!!!!
the only diference is that the ref didnt pick up on this and awarded a penalty......
Kewell was wrong yes...he is not proud of what de did.....but does this make him a cheat???
Does this make every player who has ever dived a cheat????????????????
Think about what you say before you say it..

And who cares about the internationals you have on the bench what does it count for if u are still 3rd in the table and cant even get past the first round in Champions League?????

Leeds have depth to cover Lucas's absense. Duberry can cover for him or even Haaland can slot back in centre of defence.

The only reason why Arsenal are good is because they have money.........
and they will need it after theyre whole defence retires in a few years.
On the other hand David O'Leary gives his youth first team action unlike Arsene Wenger who gives his spoilt brats a first team spot no matter how baldy theyre performing.......

 

[GOONERBHOY]

Canoe,
Well said!

Kewell,
You know i think your the only person i`ve come across that thought Nik Anelka was even half decent, Hey Real fans, arent you glad you paid top dollar for him.

How can you say that Arsenal Players don`t care about the club the defence has been their for nearly 2 decades if that`s not devotion i don`t know what is. And our forigners have turned down amazing offers especially Marc Overmars bieng offered twice their salary but they are faithful!

 

[PolishPower]

Goonerboy:
Sweden had to beat Poland in the last game of the qualifiers for EURO 2000 in order for England to qualify for the play-off.

Also it is very hard to prove the guy dived short of him admitting it. He can always say he just tripped, his ankle twisted whatever. Davor Suker got suspenden in Spain few years ago for diving, don't know for how many games however. He called diving an art form and part of the game and was so notorious for diving that even Real fans would boo him.

This problem with diving will never be solved, the first time there was a dive was probably the 1st game after they made a rule that fouls in the 18 meter area were penalties, its just too damn enticing do dive when goals are so hard to come by.

Diving would stop to a degree if they did away with the penalty kick- instead give a direct free kick from the spot of the foul just like anywhere else on the pitch.

 

[GOONERBHOY]

DIVING,
I think that if the ref calls a foul and a card or goal scoring opertunity is awarded,for example a spot kick or FK in "Beckham Territory", Then the Fourth official should be able to view a replay of the inncodient before the call is made.
What do you think?

 

[PolishPower]

Only place for replay i see is they should have a camera above the net to see if the ball crossed the line.

As to the reviewing of fouls it would be a nightmare to do, just too many borderline fouls, and this would delay the game very much, people screaming and complaining, people rioting in the stands even more.

 

[GOONERBHOY]

I don`t mean some mickey mouse opperation i mean officially getting it up to scratch. At least after a video call the players and fans know they havent been cheated!

 

[Kewell the Jewell]

i agree with polish power

implementing anything like a 3rd offical and the games just take 2 long....what is the referee meant to do if he sees something that he is not sure if it is a dive??
stop play and if it is a dive or maybe he has just slipped, give a dropball and lose the advantage to the attacking team?

there is just too much for teh referee to do and he would have to make too many decisions in a split second. I mean most of the ref's cant even get the simplest decisions right.

For example when Radebe got sent off against Leicester in the Worthington Cup....heskey clearly handballed the ball but Radebe was sent off for a following foul.

Some might see this as a revenge for Kewell's dive and if it is seen that way then maybe this will shut you up.

 

[Kewell the Jewell]

Leeds are better than Arsenal

Here why....LEEDS HAVE HARRY KEWELL!!!!!!