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Any muslims on SG? please help me
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you people are too religious
it is very simple there are two things that can happen when you die:
1. It is just all black in front of you forever
or
2. Your body dies but you soul goes to heaven or whatever
but eitherways you can't have sex so you are dead anyways
problem solved
it is very simple there are two things that can happen when you die:
1. It is just all black in front of you forever
or
2. Your body dies but you soul goes to heaven or whatever
but eitherways you can't have sex so you are dead anyways
problem solved
Rob said:Nothing of Kings makes sense.
You know what is amazing though, not even the JEWS got this upset over the depiction of Moses in Southpark
or the depiction of God being some weird half dog/half rodent creature, or Jesus being a regular on the show and having his own talk show, or the head of the Roman Catholic Church being a giant spider... the list goes on
:boohoo:
itsbeenpickedup
Youth Team
I can see no reason why these protesters should be tolerated. Bash their noggins. 'Extreme' Muslims who preach or practise violence are absolute morons. I don't care how offended they are, they can either shut the **** up or protest in a reasonable manner. Twats.
Like i said in my previous post in this thread. My Muslim friend didn't think this is an insult at all. He in fact said it's funny to see these depiction... "showing how creative" people can be quote in quote what he said. He even said that these are the "Minority F***tards who is provoked by some extremist organization" another quote in quote from him. Everytime religion is becoming an excuse for some war or whatever to happen... it will be bad and of course it is blasphemous.... just look at The Crusades. hmmmmm.... or look at Osama... hmmmm..... i really hate seeing religion becomes an excuse to burn other people's flag or burning an embassy or looting or whatever it is. It is fully retarded and should not be carried from any people.
I can be called a religious person... I am a Christian and in fact my parents are really devoted. They do not mind when watching SouthPark episode when Jesus is running His own talkshow LOL. I have no idea why people can be so CLOSED MINDED. Who cares if a Danish depicted ur Prophet like such and if God really thinks that they are guilty... they will be sent to HELL which is an eternal judgement for any human beings. YOU DO NOT NEED to judge them now by burning anything. I wonder if you burn those flags or buildings and cause trouble in this world doesn't considered a sin from God because i remember what Jesus said something like "Love your enemies". Just rest assured that God will take action for everybody who does wrong thing and they will go to the hell. If you actually do REVENGE for this... consider this... ARE YOU BETTER THAN THOSE PEOPLE WHO MOCK YOUR PROPHET????
I can be called a religious person... I am a Christian and in fact my parents are really devoted. They do not mind when watching SouthPark episode when Jesus is running His own talkshow LOL. I have no idea why people can be so CLOSED MINDED. Who cares if a Danish depicted ur Prophet like such and if God really thinks that they are guilty... they will be sent to HELL which is an eternal judgement for any human beings. YOU DO NOT NEED to judge them now by burning anything. I wonder if you burn those flags or buildings and cause trouble in this world doesn't considered a sin from God because i remember what Jesus said something like "Love your enemies". Just rest assured that God will take action for everybody who does wrong thing and they will go to the hell. If you actually do REVENGE for this... consider this... ARE YOU BETTER THAN THOSE PEOPLE WHO MOCK YOUR PROPHET????
Ok you're scaring meillution said:
About your friend. Sadly this apparent "silent majority" rarely speaks up. & when they do they're immediately put down(some paper in Jordan did & the government is going to take action against them). Yes, I fully understand having your religion, race etc being mocked. Have your demonstrations, show your displeasure. But to burn down embassies, torch flags, issue death threats, fire AK-47's....
I believe its just a matter of time before someone kills someone, & that will open a whole new can of worms.
::shinji::
Min
isn't armageddon just the name of the location where the suposed last great battle will take place, rather than an actual event? 
anyhow...
anyhow...The_Knight
Senior Squad
I wish I was here at the start of this thread.
Actually, we over here, as well as the majority of worldwide muslims (as you will see), are adopting a far more civilized, islamic and strongly effective way to express our outrage against these mind-numbing stupid irresponsible drawings published by the Danish newspaper, and supported by the Danish government: BOYCOTTING.
Now let's start by replying to the childish supportive announcements of the Danish government.
The Danish media and government -stupidly- based their defence on a single point: "Freedom of Speech". Now How do we define freedom?
Are you allowed to move around your neighbourhood shooting and killing anyone you meet, because you are 'free to do it'? NO.
Do you run around speaking offensive language that promotes hatred and violence in a certain race? NO.
Do you drive high on drugs in the street, taking U-turns and crossing traffic lights, because you are free to do so? NO.
There are rules and regulations that put a safe and civilized definition to the word 'Freedom'. Rules that are meant to maintain the pureness of 'Freedom', not to restrict it. You are free to do whatever you want, if it's not harming others, promoting irresponsible hatred, misinformation, misinterpretations. This is the responsibility that any Media personell claims on duty.
The thing is, if such events/cartoons, which may superficially sound childish to some readers here, if they were to pass unnoticed, it would have only been the beginning of such irresponsible behaviors. And the result would be more hatred, more misinformation, more misinterpretation, less tolerance and harmony amongst the different races/people in the world. That is why everyone here should indorse this Islamic response against the outrageous, irresponsible behavior of the Danish newspaper and the governmental response that followed.
I mean even in Islam, it is strictly forbidden to portray the Prophet Muhammed, or any other Messenger (e.g. Jesus Christ, Moses, Abraham) in any drawing/piece of work, however Holy this piece of work was. So talk about outrageous cartoons full of hatred, ignorance and misinformation and actually defending this action, in the name of pure, clean words like "Freedom".
Now what was mostly provocative was the newspaper's refusal to apologize, and the governments irresponsible support and uncivilized behavior towards the embassadors of the Muslim countries who went to clarify and end the situation before it escalates (and it did... look at the photos above. God knows how many innocent ppl were harmed in these attacks)
However, I find it disturbing, but expected, that the minor, ineffective uncivilized, violent response stole all the lights in this thread and the news. As a matter of fact, the vast majority of Muslims are already adopting a far more peaceful, civilized, and immensly effective response to the Danish government. Boycotting Danish products.
The Arab World constitutes a major consumption customer for most major Danish products. For example, Arla Foods, Europe's second-largest dairy company with annual sales of about $430 million in the Middle East, said that the boycott was almost total and suspended production in Saudi Arabia, leading to near-zero sales.
Egypt, whose chamber of commerce representing 3.5 million businesses has called for a boycott of Denmark, alone buys 33 percent of Denmark's drugs exports to the region.
Supermarkets in Algeria, Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, Morocco, Qatar, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates and Yemen all removed Danish produce from their shelves.
Boycotting the products was a major economy blow to the Danish government, which first resorted to the EU, which in turn warned the boycotting countries of 'consequences'. However, as useless as this threat was, the Danish government was forced to press the newspaper to issue an apology. Which finally did happen. However, it wasn't near to the apology we wanted.. Their faint statement was something like "We apologize that the photos offended you".... Not an apology for publishing them. However, this apology was later modified and accepted by most Muslim groups. And that's how following civilized peaceful methods of objections would lead to the desired result. A turn in the events after the newspaper has rejected issuing an apology earlier.
So one may ask, how are the Danish companies held responsible for the outragesous irresponsible publications of the newspaper? Actually, they aren't. Which makes sense. However, The Danish government is held responsible, and consequently, the Danish companies are under their government's responsiblity. And hence, allowing these ignorant drawings to be published, then actually suporting this behavior was an Irrresponsible Act by all means, contrary to what's expected from a so-called civilized country. The governments claim more responsibility when taking such stands.
Not to mention the irresponsible promotion of hatred, intolerance and ignoranct misinformation amongst the people. A behavior that that should actually be the contrary to the sacred purpose of worldwide media.
Actually, we over here, as well as the majority of worldwide muslims (as you will see), are adopting a far more civilized, islamic and strongly effective way to express our outrage against these mind-numbing stupid irresponsible drawings published by the Danish newspaper, and supported by the Danish government: BOYCOTTING.
Now let's start by replying to the childish supportive announcements of the Danish government.
The Danish media and government -stupidly- based their defence on a single point: "Freedom of Speech". Now How do we define freedom?
Are you allowed to move around your neighbourhood shooting and killing anyone you meet, because you are 'free to do it'? NO.
Do you run around speaking offensive language that promotes hatred and violence in a certain race? NO.
Do you drive high on drugs in the street, taking U-turns and crossing traffic lights, because you are free to do so? NO.
There are rules and regulations that put a safe and civilized definition to the word 'Freedom'. Rules that are meant to maintain the pureness of 'Freedom', not to restrict it. You are free to do whatever you want, if it's not harming others, promoting irresponsible hatred, misinformation, misinterpretations. This is the responsibility that any Media personell claims on duty.
The thing is, if such events/cartoons, which may superficially sound childish to some readers here, if they were to pass unnoticed, it would have only been the beginning of such irresponsible behaviors. And the result would be more hatred, more misinformation, more misinterpretation, less tolerance and harmony amongst the different races/people in the world. That is why everyone here should indorse this Islamic response against the outrageous, irresponsible behavior of the Danish newspaper and the governmental response that followed.
I mean even in Islam, it is strictly forbidden to portray the Prophet Muhammed, or any other Messenger (e.g. Jesus Christ, Moses, Abraham) in any drawing/piece of work, however Holy this piece of work was. So talk about outrageous cartoons full of hatred, ignorance and misinformation and actually defending this action, in the name of pure, clean words like "Freedom".
Now what was mostly provocative was the newspaper's refusal to apologize, and the governments irresponsible support and uncivilized behavior towards the embassadors of the Muslim countries who went to clarify and end the situation before it escalates (and it did... look at the photos above. God knows how many innocent ppl were harmed in these attacks)
However, I find it disturbing, but expected, that the minor, ineffective uncivilized, violent response stole all the lights in this thread and the news. As a matter of fact, the vast majority of Muslims are already adopting a far more peaceful, civilized, and immensly effective response to the Danish government. Boycotting Danish products.
The Arab World constitutes a major consumption customer for most major Danish products. For example, Arla Foods, Europe's second-largest dairy company with annual sales of about $430 million in the Middle East, said that the boycott was almost total and suspended production in Saudi Arabia, leading to near-zero sales.
Egypt, whose chamber of commerce representing 3.5 million businesses has called for a boycott of Denmark, alone buys 33 percent of Denmark's drugs exports to the region.
Supermarkets in Algeria, Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, Morocco, Qatar, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates and Yemen all removed Danish produce from their shelves.
Boycotting the products was a major economy blow to the Danish government, which first resorted to the EU, which in turn warned the boycotting countries of 'consequences'. However, as useless as this threat was, the Danish government was forced to press the newspaper to issue an apology. Which finally did happen. However, it wasn't near to the apology we wanted.. Their faint statement was something like "We apologize that the photos offended you".... Not an apology for publishing them. However, this apology was later modified and accepted by most Muslim groups. And that's how following civilized peaceful methods of objections would lead to the desired result. A turn in the events after the newspaper has rejected issuing an apology earlier.
So one may ask, how are the Danish companies held responsible for the outragesous irresponsible publications of the newspaper? Actually, they aren't. Which makes sense. However, The Danish government is held responsible, and consequently, the Danish companies are under their government's responsiblity. And hence, allowing these ignorant drawings to be published, then actually suporting this behavior was an Irrresponsible Act by all means, contrary to what's expected from a so-called civilized country. The governments claim more responsibility when taking such stands.
Not to mention the irresponsible promotion of hatred, intolerance and ignoranct misinformation amongst the people. A behavior that that should actually be the contrary to the sacred purpose of worldwide media.
Oh boycott, so because an extreme minority (11 people) publish one cartoon, you are going to boycott which is going to hurt others in a chain effect that I cannot be f*cked explaining. Basically, you are punishing others for the actions of an extreme minority,
Which, although not to the same extent is why so many millions of Muslims, esp. those in the Western World got upset after certain acts of terrorism where peace loving and tolerant Muslims where persecuted for the actions of a few like Mohammed Atta?
Because fundamentally it is the same thing, team a and team b, a minority from team a does something that upsets team b, so team b responds by punishing those from team a which disagree with the actions of a minority in varied means such as abuse, violence or boycotts.
So ya, meh.
Which, although not to the same extent is why so many millions of Muslims, esp. those in the Western World got upset after certain acts of terrorism where peace loving and tolerant Muslims where persecuted for the actions of a few like Mohammed Atta?
Because fundamentally it is the same thing, team a and team b, a minority from team a does something that upsets team b, so team b responds by punishing those from team a which disagree with the actions of a minority in varied means such as abuse, violence or boycotts.
So ya, meh.
V
Virgo
Guest
The_Knight said:
I knew this cheap argument would come up, though I wasn't expecting it would be from you.
As much as you'd like to put it all in the same sac, publishing a drawing has absolutely nothing to do with endangering someone's life, at least directly.
I agree that publishing the drawings was an irresponsible act BUT JUST given the nature of some of the muslims, but I never imagined an answer like this. This little scandal was the proof that the majority of muslims just aren't fit to handle the rules and boundaries of the western way of life.
To be honest I'm absolutely disgusted by the way you and the likes of you by other words reinvindicate a special treatment for muslims. So we can't publish anything that makes fun of Islam or Mohammad because it's not allowed in your religion. Ok mental note to all comedians, make fun of everything except Islam because they tend to get pissed about it. I'm sure everyone will cope with this.
As Rob pointed out it's absolutely hilarious and a giant ode to hipocricy that you boycott all danish products because one paper published some drawings, yet you quickly jump on someone's back when they generalize suicide bombers with other muslims.
Hey let's look at the bright side, at least no boring Qur'an passages this time.
The 2nd Coming is Near Beware.... When He finally came the final judgement will be bestowed upon us.... Beware.....
PS: sorry to say this but
Are you allowed to move around your neighbourhood shooting and killing anyone you meet, because you are 'free to do it'? NO (but some freaks do that)
Do you run around speaking offensive language that promotes hatred and violence in a certain race? NO (but a lot of people did that and sometimes i do too)
Do you drive high on drugs in the street, taking U-turns and crossing traffic lights, because you are free to do so? NO. (but some drunk college kids do)
PS: sorry to say this but
Are you allowed to move around your neighbourhood shooting and killing anyone you meet, because you are 'free to do it'? NO (but some freaks do that)
Do you run around speaking offensive language that promotes hatred and violence in a certain race? NO (but a lot of people did that and sometimes i do too)
Do you drive high on drugs in the street, taking U-turns and crossing traffic lights, because you are free to do so? NO. (but some drunk college kids do)
I
IceBlu
Guest
was wondering how long it would be until the_knight gets involved...
i think they are within their rights, i mean, if denmark had nothing to do with those nations and wans't involved in iraq then no, its none of their camel jockey business and they should **** off but since the danish scumbags do have troops
in iraq it is the business of the muslims
Down with the liberal ****hole that is Denmark and Norway
in iraq it is the business of the muslims
Down with the liberal ****hole that is Denmark and Norway
Ban him, this is Moron.dietzgen said:i think they are within their rights, i mean, if denmark had nothing to do with those nations and wans't involved in iraq then no, its none of their camel jockey business and they should **** off but since the danish scumbags do have troops
in iraq it is the business of the muslims
Down with the liberal ****hole that is Denmark and Norway
