Arsenal- Man U the rivalry

[Hans]

Originally posted by ogsimon

back to subject, i wonder where all the man u fans are

Still thinking that Liverpool is our true respectful and intense rival instead of some cry-babies London club . . .

 

[tottiiii]

your only as good as your last game....none of this bull**** like well my team won the most championships in the last 10 years ...that does not prove who is better....Man Utd were better last season just like Arsenal were better two seasons ago....but of course arsenal fans are gonna think thier team is better and man utd fans are gonna think they are better....its impossible to say whos better when two clubs are so evenly matched....i got a question for u arsenal fans....how long has Wenger been with Arsenal ...just curious

 

[ogsimon]

Originally posted by jigger37
you just know when manu fans discover this thread we'll be bombarded with 10 championships in 5 years lines and the likes.

As to rivalry, i think it is now,especially with the press and their bull**** mind games theory, every manu- arsenal games regardless of when the fixtures are in d season, are considered title deciders(however dumb the notion may be),with manchester derbies united are expected to win with off chance that city could spring a suprise(hence the doom n gloom reaction we all had last season), and with d liverpool and manu games?...only the lord knows what those are about but the press keep plugging these, with both sides eager to tell how many throphies they have in their cabinet and of course the regular scouser jokes.

Top 6 european sides in terms of tradition? i honestly dont think so,manu,pool and the likes have history as a reference point as they've always been considered "big"(for a lack of a better word),i mean since all this time we're just realising we need a bigger stadium not that stadium size should be the deciding factor but these clubs are more established so to speak,if you talk about british clubs i dont think ppl would think of arsenal 1st or 2nd maybe until recently i dont know, but our reference is on how we've come along recently and the potential for the future.

I never meant top 6 in terms of tradition i meant to put a but there

 

[ogsimon]

I belive that there is nothing between the two teams, man u had a more solid defence than arsenal while arsenal were brilliant and excting in attack becoming the best attack in the premiership. I still think though that man u players believe that arsenal are better, i mean look at how they hyped up their draw at highbury and how they shut us out at old tranny, It will be the same next season when arsenal are stomping the league. I guess last season man us players were fresher from all the rests they got, hopefully with Viera and Gilberto getting full summer breaks then we can win our league championship back off the no1 rank mancs

 

[rhizome17]

Originally posted by antithesis
there really needs to be a way to kiss ass online.

 

[antithesis]

hahahaha.

 

[rumanu?]

arse are only our title rivals.

our true rivals are the massives, scousers, and sheep shaggers.

arse only have spurs and maybe the other london clubs

 

[Bobby]

Spurs are so crap it's not funny anymore. We need a real rival that can beat us....Chelsea can i know, they're the only London club that can really give us a good beating on their day. But Arsenal could rip them to shreads on their day.

 

[northstar]

Arsenal is a good club, but not on the level of the great Euro clubs. Like it or not, they need that big silver cup before they get that level of respect.

 

[monkee]

Man Utd's true rivals are Man City and Liverpool (and Leeds to an extent), not some North London club 300 miles away, desperate for some sort of historical rivalry other than Spurs.

The United - Arsenal rivalry is only about 5yrs old, and it's more about wanting to win the league rather than do one over the team. I mean, if Arsenal really just want to beat United and then losing the league isn't as important. then that's an issue for their fans. But when United play Citeh or Liverpool the league takes 2nd place to just wanting to beat your rivals. When we played Arsenal a draw at Highbury was good because it meant that it kept us in the driving seat as the form team in the race to the title.

 

[Hans]

Originally posted by Ljungberg08
Spurs are so crap it's not funny anymore. We need a real rival that can beat us....Chelsea can i know, they're the only London club that can really give us a good beating on their day. But Arsenal could rip them to shreads on their day.

Not to argue, but I don`t think Spurs crap, their stupid manager is . . .

 

[tottiiii]

respect means nothing.....you think Henry and Vieira actaully care about that when playing ?....every team is different than the year before....just cause a team has respect has nothing to do with if they are gonna win a match or not...maybe respect matters when talking about what a club can do or not , regarding predictions....like the majority of people on this board can think man utd can win so and so competitions cause they have that respect but it doesnt mean nothing when they are on the field against you could say a club like arsenal who like you would say doesnt have that respect

 

[Hans]

Originally posted by tottiiii
like the majority of people on this board can think man utd can win so and so competitions cause they have that respect but it doesnt mean nothing when they are on the field against you could say a club like arsenal who like you would say doesnt have that respect

Sorry, but could you make this sentence in a simpler English, cos` I don`t think I can get the meaning . . .

 

[ogsimon]

I was just saying how the rivalry is starting to get bigger between the teams, i guess there is a north vs south thing going, on and since man u are arsenals closest rival.

Location does not matter that much, real-barca is bigger that real athletico madrid or barca -espanyol

 

[Help?]

Originally posted by jigger37
I am in awe, the post was prob too long and you got lost in the middle,but then again it was the first two lines ,dude you need ur username.

wow! That's a good one, mate.

 

[Help?]

Originally posted by ogsimon
I was just saying how the rivalry is starting to get bigger between the teams, i guess there is a north vs south thing going, on and since man u are arsenals closest rival.

Location does not matter that much, real-barca is bigger that real athletico madrid or barca -espanyol

And you were also saying that judging from the past thropies and stadium etc, Arsenal could be considered the top 6 EURO side. I think they won't even make the top 10.


And about attacking football. Which Arsenal do you mean, the current one or the one that was playing for many years? Because as far as i know Arsenal only strated to play attacking football 3-4 years ago, people even used to call them "boring boring arsenal"
And i still can't understand how Arsenal will win 10 championships in 5 years, that's like more than impossible.

 

[Amika]

Originally posted by monkee
Man Utd's true rivals are Man City and Liverpool (and Leeds to an extent), not some North London club 300 miles away, desperate for some sort of historical rivalry other than Spurs.

The United - Arsenal rivalry is only about 5yrs old, and it's more about wanting to win the league rather than do one over the team. I mean, if Arsenal really just want to beat United and then losing the league isn't as important. then that's an issue for their fans. But when United play Citeh or Liverpool the league takes 2nd place to just wanting to beat your rivals. When we played Arsenal a draw at Highbury was good because it meant that it kept us in the driving seat as the form team in the race to the title.

totally agreed with u there monkee... the united - arsenal rivalry are just too young... and there is no way as intense as the rivalry between man u vs liverpool and city... i'm sure if u ask every man u fans out there, they will give anything to win a match against either liverpool or city in any season...

 

[antithesis]

I think that's not true Amika.
If ManU fans think beating Pool and City is the most important thing then let the team give Arsenal 4 or 6 points and see what will happen to their title.

 

[briggzy]

ManUres rivals are the team that pose the biggest threat to their Premiership supremacy. It is now arsenal, it was Newcastle several years ago....who's next.....Everton?

 

[Amika]

Originally posted by antithesis
I think that's not true Amika.
If ManU fans think beating Pool and City is the most important thing then let the team give Arsenal 4 or 6 points and see what will happen to their title.

you are missing out the point there anti... like we said the arsenal vs man u rivalry is only as recent as 5 years ago and only because of the title is at stake.. whereas, a lot of the fans for both man u, city and liverpool are all eager to win the match against each other no matter what it take.. it is the pride at stake..