CHELSEA FC Thread [2006 - 07]

[Dreath]

Its great to let the fans know bout this. EVeryone at Chelsea is a family so its family news

That's no justification, you've made a few more enemies which does your reputation no good. It's all fine now that you're the only one with millions of quid, but the ways things are going there will be 5/6 teams with billionaire owners and when that happens you're advantage has gone and making enemies with the head of the PFA, French F.A. and showing the inability to keep what is a club matter a club matter will come back and bite you in the arse. Look at Ashley Cole, he did much worse to us than what Gallas supposidly did, but what did Wenger say after the transfer? "Upon Ashley’s departure I would like to thank him on behalf of the team and everyone connected with the Club for his contribution to our success over recent years, Ashley has always played with his heart for Arsenal.". This is a guy who betrayed the club.

This is a PR gaff of the highest order by Chelsea and it's really no surprise, here's what Simon jordon has to say about your head of PR

The closest I’ve come to losing it with a journalist was in 2002, after London’s Evening Standard, who’d always had great access and cooperation from us, started producing a string of barbed, personal piss takes. I decided that if they wanted to write this stuff, fine, but they weren’t going to do it on our premises, so I withdrew their accreditation. The sports editor’s reaction was this: instead of calling me, he phoned our shirt sponsor to suggest they reduced payments to us because they’d be getting less exposure in the Standard. Then he warned me that banning Standard journalists would have a negative effect on Palace’s results. I asked him what the hell he was talking about, and he implied that if I obstructed his journalists and restricted his press access, the type of coverage they’d be giving us would have a negative effect on morale.

So where is this guy now? Four years on, he’s the top PR man at Chelsea, a club with a reputation for obstructing journalists and restricting press access. PR Week says ‘Simon Greenberg is about to embark on a major charm offensive’ in football, to boost Chelsea’s image. Stand back, and watch him go.

Admittidly Somon Jordon is a prick but the point still stands.

 

[pede54]

Dreath....only someone from Arsenal would give a crap about the French FA. They are nobodies mate who have nothing of interest to say.

As for making more enemies. Chelsea are out to win trophies and cups, not to win friends. If people have a problem with anything Chelsea, too damn bad, who gives a toss anyway what anyone thinks. You think Arsenal has so many friends outside the club? No they do not. People are not stupid and they have long memories.

As for Wengers "respectful" goodbye to Ashley. Lets see what they have to say when the book comes out shall we?

So far Ashley has not slagged Arsenal off in public. Ga££as has. If William Gallas would have moved to Man U or Spurs, you would be calling him all the names under the sun for the disgusting way that he has behaved, whatever his percieved justification. Now he plays for Arsenal you back a <unt like that. You are unbelievable mate.

Only you gooners are taken in by Wengers smooth approach. We all know that the Arsenal board and hierarchy are just as shifty as any other clubs top men. The comments made by Wenger came after the Chelsea statement and only a gullible fool (or an Arsenal fan), would not see the motives behind that statement. Arsenal taking the moral high ground? Get real mate. It didn't fool me but obviously it fooled you.

I do agree though that Chelsea has hired some wankers to represent our club. Kenyon is one and Greenberg is another. I and many Chelsea fans would dearly love to see these two given the elbow, but only Roman can do that so thats up to him.

I believe that Chelsea had a duty to us fans to give us the information we DEMANDED in regards to the Ga££as fiasco, and if anyone non-Chelsea dont like it.....too fu<king bad mate.

I suppose you know that Arsenal told Cole that unless he scrapped his book, they would not let him go? I cant wait to see what he has to say about your beloved club with their high moral fibre..... :funny:

People in glass houses.............

 

[dipset]

Dreath....only someone from Arsenal would give a crap about the French FA. They are nobodies mate who have nothing of interest to say.

As for making more enemies. Chelsea are out to win trophies and cups, not to win friends. If people have a problem with anything Chelsea, too damn bad, who gives a toss anyway what anyone thinks. You think Arsenal has so many friends outside the club? No they do not. People are not stupid and they have long memories.

As for Wengers "respectful" goodbye to Ashley. Lets see what they have to say when the book comes out shall we?

So far Ashley has not slagged Arsenal off in public. Ga££as has. If William Gallas would have moved to Man U or Spurs, you would be calling him all the names under the sun for the disgusting way that he has behaved, whatever his percieved justification. Now he plays for Arsenal you back a <unt like that. You are unbelievable mate.

Only you gooners are taken in by Wengers smooth approach. We all know that the Arsenal board and hierarchy are just as shifty as any other clubs top men. The comments made by Wenger came after the Chelsea statement and only a gullible fool (or an Arsenal fan), would not see the motives behind that statement. Arsenal taking the moral high ground? Get real mate. It didn't fool me but obviously it fooled you.

I do agree though that Chelsea has hired some wankers to represent our club. Kenyon is one and Greenberg is another. I and many Chelsea fans would dearly love to see these two given the elbow, but only Roman can do that so thats up to him.

I believe that Chelsea had a duty to us fans to give us the information we DEMANDED in regards to the Ga££as fiasco, and if anyone non-Chelsea dont like it.....too fu<king bad mate.

I suppose you know that Arsenal told Cole that unless he scrapped his book, they would not let him go? I cant wait to see what he has to say about your beloved club with their high moral fibre..... :funny:

People in glass houses.............

AMEN mate , AMEN

 

[Stotty]

ahem....more capacity....more money :drevil: ... and helps establish ur self as a big club, b/c all the big clubs have giant stadiums. Abramovich is smart he knows that Chelsea cant live off his wealth forever so hes making a base, a 60,000+ seater where u can get loads of money of reciepts and also marketing around the world to establish global fanbase. HEs plannign for the future , right now the bridge capacity is only like 42 ,000+ thats nothing compared to Camp Nou, Tratford, Bernabeu, San Siro, thats why Chelsea need more capacity. also more capacity means cheaper ticket prices . Rumor is Chelsea may buy Earls Court which that can turn into a 65,000+ seater stadium and then use the Bridge until that stadium is ready.

how about you aim for 60,000 fans before building them a stadium to sit in?

 

[dipset]

how about you aim for 60,000 fans before building them a stadium to sit in?

Are u kidding london has a population of 7mil plus with Arsenal , Chelsea and Totnham , Chelsea have a hugggggge fan base , its just that the tickets are sooo damn expensive thats why the games not full of capacity but yet with the high ticket prices (highest in prem) are still able to sell around 38,000 thats stilll reall good considerin the prices . Honestly mate u think Man U would be able to fill its 75000 seater if it charged like chelsea? my point indeed, if chelsea get that 60000+ capacity that means lower ticket prices , i assure u with the quality chelsea have it should easily sell out only...only thing from selling it out NOW is ticket prices, and believe me mate u honestly think Roman is DAT stupid to startin to think bout buildin a new stadium without gettin ne answers from its advisors bout the fanbase lol lets be realistic now shall we, u dont think Arsenal did research b4 movin to Emirates , tha research has been done adn that with lower ticket prices CHELSEA would EAAAASSILLY fill the stadium CONSISTENTLY when they get 60,000+ cap Cheers

 

[pede54]

Actually, since Arsenal moved to the Emirates stadium, their ticket prices are now the highest in the Premiership. Thats not to say that tickets at a new Chelsea stadium would rise though, because we would not need to make the fans pay for a new stadium. It would be Romans legacy to us.

To be honest, I haven't seen Stamford Bridge with many empty seats whenever I've been there, and thats almost every home game. Like all clubs who cater for corporate customers ( ), those areas if any, will be where the empty seats are. We fill the ground very easily, and could fill it twice over if the room was there. Chelsea ticket prices, compared to Arsenal and Spurs, are the 3rd most expensive now. Obviously the best seats are a ridiculous price but the lower Mathew Harding stand and the Shed are still ok. They are as competitive as other clubs.

Anyway....Stotty was only kidding.

 

[jani]

can anyone rank the most popular clubs in London based on local fanbase?

 

[Vedran-10]

Dreath....only someone from Arsenal would give a crap about the French FA. They are nobodies mate who have nothing of interest to say.

As for making more enemies. Chelsea are out to win trophies and cups, not to win friends. If people have a problem with anything Chelsea, too damn bad, who gives a toss anyway what anyone thinks.

I don't understand how you can not have a problem with Chelsea making enemies. You have Abramovi&#269; now, but you don't know what the future brings. Maybe you won't have your millions then, and the situation will be different. Chelsea weren't a superpower before Abramovi&#269;, and somehow I don't think you'll remain a superpower if he eventually leaves. You depend on his money, and that's a fact. For example, Barca have 120,000 + members (I'm not sure about the exact figure, but it's definitely not less than that) and it can't happen that a hundred and twenty THOUSAND people cancel their membership tomorrow. Okay, not tomorrow, but in five years. Barcelona are run by a lot of people, and one person losing interest does not damage the Club. However, if your owner decides to get another past time, what will your club do? You will go back to the way you were, and you weren't a world class team. Okay, you may have a new stadium or expand the bridge, and you've increased your fan base, so that is something that will never disappear, but you won't have his millions if he leaves. There will be no more big signings, no high-profile coaches, and with that, most probably no titles. Chelsea is not a stable club like the rest of the "elite". You depend on one man, who isn't going to be around forever.
That's why I can't understand your position on this. Your club's reputation is being heavily damaged, and you haven't done anything to improve connections with any big clubs, and that's something you should care about.

So far Ashley has not slagged Arsenal off in public. Ga££as has. If William Gallas would have moved to Man U or Spurs, you would be calling him all the names under the sun for the disgusting way that he has behaved, whatever his percieved justification. Now he plays for Arsenal you back a <unt like that. You are unbelievable mate.

You don't have a problem with Cole playing in your team, so why are you blaming an Arsenal fan for the same thing? It's unbelieveable that Arsenal fans don't judge Gallas for being a c*nt, but you don't judge Cole either, who is not any less of a scumbag. First you could attack Cole for his actions, and then accuse Arsenal fans of not doing the same to Gallas.

Only you gooners are taken in by Wengers smooth approach. We all know that the Arsenal board and hierarchy are just as shifty as any other clubs top men. The comments made by Wenger came after the Chelsea statement and only a gullible fool (or an Arsenal fan), would not see the motives behind that statement. Arsenal taking the moral high ground? Get real mate. It didn't fool me but obviously it fooled you.

Nobody is foolish enough to believe Arsenal have an affection for Cole. They hate him, like you hate Gallas. But a press release like that is a sign of class. Both Chelsea and Arsenal had bastards in their team, but the difference is, Arsenal wished Cole good luck, while you announced how Gallas threatened to score an own goal. LMAO! I've read about Cole not wanting to go to Arsenal training session, about him promising never to play another minute for Arsenal, and yet they don't have anything bad to announce on his departure, even tho it's well known he's done a lot of sh*t there, just like Gallas in Chelsea.

I believe that Chelsea had a duty to us fans to give us the information we DEMANDED in regards to the Ga££as fiasco, and if anyone non-Chelsea dont like it.....too fu<king bad mate.

I disagree. I believe Chelsea have a duty to be as professional as possible, in order to preserve what's left of their image, and by doing that, protect the fans.

 

[pede54]

All rubbish mate....and I repeat...we just dont care . Your entire opinion concerning your first paragraph is based on a hypothetical scenario so it is all meaningless.

And why would we need to improve connections with any club, let alone the ones you call the "big" ones? You dont like us and we dont like you. Thats fine by me mate.

Paragraph 2:- I understand Arsenal fans sense of betrayal by Ashley Cole completely. If he or anyone else would have done that to Chelsea I would feel the same way. Any fan would feel the same way. Many Chelsea fans have mixed feelings about Ashley Cole coming to Chelsea. We know he is a fantastic player but his actions in the past concerning his desire to join Chelsea does give one something to think about. Regarding Gallas and his alledged threat to score an own goal. I have not seen one Arsenal fan say that if this is true then he is indeed a disgrace. They tend to try to find reasons why he might have acted like a s.h.i.t in the first place. Now whether we all think that Gallas was treated badly by Chelsea, that still leaves no justification to defend a player who would threaten to do what Gallas alledgedly said he would do. We should all condemn the idea at least of a player "throwing" a game for his club. Arsenal fans never did that.

Arsenals statement regarding Cole had nothing to do with class. It was given out from purely a PR point of view so people like you would see it asclass when instead it was just smart PR. It worked as far as you are concerned didn't it?


Chelsea have a duty to their fans. Thats it....End of story. They do not have any obligations to fulfill regarding any other club in the entire world. Like I said earlier, if anyone has a problem with that ....Fu<king hard cheese mate.

We are rivals, why should we care what the cosy little group that your club belongs to think about us? We dont, so get used to that. Maybe Barca like to go through life kissing arse, well we do not. We do not need your respect, you can shove it. Do you think your club are so high and mighty that we respect you? We do not think about Barca in one way or another. All we care about is our club and not what any other fan might think.

Even before Roman, our club was treated like s.h.i.t because we did not have money to burn. Now we have money to burn we are still treated like ****. We like it that way thanks, we are used to it. It might worry a prick like Kenyon but it does not worry me. Chelsea is MY club not Kenyons club. He just works there.

 

[CarlosDanger]

And if Chelsea was added to the G14 or whatever the hell it is now you wouldn't care?

Your posts smack of double standard Pete. On one hand you talk about how Chelsea gets no respect and complain that it is unfair.

Then when people say the way to get respect is to give it, you say you don't care, you only care about your club etc.

Which is it?

 

[pede54]

Where did I say its unfair?

 

[CarlosDanger]

When you were talking about the seeding for the Champion's League

 

[pede54]

I didn't say it was unfair. I said it was out of order. Thats a different thing.

What has seedings in the CL got to do with whether a club is liked or respected. I thought seedings were based on performance.....or are they?

I'm on the defensive here man. There is no way I'm gonna conceed anything at the moment. When things have cooled off a bit, then I might possibly mellow slightly. Only MIGHT possibly mellow slightly. :funny:

 

[CarlosDanger]

Well, it seemed to be your point that it was based on something else and that Chelsea wasn't getting any of that "something else"

Anyway, I got no beef with you. You love your club blindly and that's not a bad thing.

 

[dipset]

haha sooo much haters , remeber folk this is a Chelsea Thread meant for Chelsea FANS not haters who like to come to this thread and just hate on a beautiful club. So much haters

 

[adj137]

yeh we get it, there's hate...

 

[pede54]

Well, some people just need to ask a few questions of us, and thats fine. Sure most are just haters but not all of them. Their philosophy regarding some things are different than ours perhaps, but that does not mean that they or us are right or wrong. Its just opposing viewpoints thats all. I'm happy to deal with that.

 

[CarlosDanger]

Well, some people just need to ask a few questions of us, and thats fine. Sure most are just haters but not all of them. Their philosophy regarding some things are different than ours perhaps, but that does not mean that they or us are right or wrong. Its just opposing viewpoints thats all. I'm happy to deal with that.

Best post so far today!

dipset, I don't hate Chelsea. I respect them as they have managed to do what most clubs only dream of, making the step from perrenial mid-table club to what looks to be a lasting superpower in football.

I respect Pete's opinion whether I share it or not. I also think his passion for his club is a good thing, although it seems to be somewhat blind at times.

I think you'll find in general that I enjoy football discussion rather than flaming and hating because someone happens to support a different club than I do.

EDIT: 1000 posts! Damn I wanted it to be in the Barca thread, but at least it was part of an intelligent discussion.

 

[dipset]

chelsea

 

[Vedran-10]

haha sooo much haters , remeber folk this is a Chelsea Thread meant for Chelsea FANS not haters who like to come to this thread and just hate on a beautiful club. So much haters

Where's the hatred?