Club Football-the best of all?

[The Warrior]

PES/WE has perfect gameplay,FIFA has perfect graphics,Club football will have perfect gameplay and perfect graphics.It will be a mix of FIFA and PES/WE.Posh_geordie you have still 5 months to improve the game,what part are you going to improve(free kicks,shots etc...)?Also another question,will we be able to change the speed?

 

[LaBrujita]

Originally posted by The Warrior
PES/WE has perfect gameplay,FIFA has perfect graphics,Club football will have perfect gameplay and perfect graphics.It will be a mix of FIFA and PES/WE.Posh_geordie you have still 5 months to improve the game,what part are you going to improve(free kicks,shots etc...)?Also another question,will we be able to change the speed?

Ummmm.....yah.....
First off, I disagree about FIFA's perfect graphics, but that's not the point.
You've never seen Club Footballs gameplay, or its overall graphis for that matter. I don't want to keep this an "argument" of any form, but you are over-assuming way too much. I hope that everything you are saying is right, but no one knows until it is released, or completely at least.
Anyways, don't get too far ahead of yourself.

 

[Iggy]

Well, it could be a good shot, but I have a great feeling that this year's football king will be FIFA 2004. I don't know what will be new in Winning Eleven 7, but (again) I have a great feeling that it will not have more features compared with new FIFA. And, about perfect graphics in FIFA... there is no perfect graphics, but when we're comparing graphics between Club Football and FIFA 2004... it's uncomparable, FIFA has far better graphics.

 

[LaBrujita]

Originally posted by Iggy
Well, it could be a good shot, but I have a great feeling that this year's football king will be FIFA 2004.

I will bet my life on your statement being wrong, in every sense of the word.
Don't get me going on the quality of EA Sports, especially FIFA. Gimmicks and graphics only go so far. Play the WE series, and you'll laugh at what you just said.

 

[The Warrior]

Yes WE series doesn't compare with FIFA.FIFA it's only graphics,kits,faces etc.But the gameplay sucks!!!From the screenshots I have seen the game is completely the same as FIFA 2003.WE7 will be surely better than FIFA 2004.About Club football now,LaBrujita you are right.I don't know its gameplay and I cannot even guess it.But think sth...Codemasters has never released another soccer game.So Club football takes the best parts from the current soccer titles(WE,FIFA)to make a good game.We cannot say the same thing for Konami(WE) and EA sports(FIFA) because their games have their gameplays and every year they improved them.There is no chance to change them completely.So,Club football will be a mix of FIFA and WE...

 

[Parra Power]

so fifa has "perfect graphics" and yet you can say the game sucks from a few pictures?

 

[The Warrior]

no you didn't understand my point...I meant that from the screenshots you can see that the moves are exactly the same.For example in a screenshot I saw a player kicking the ball and I could see the stupid move of FIFA2003)...I didn't meant that sucks graphically.

 

[posh_geordie]

Best thing would be to read the Gamespot preview of the E3 version of the game - that describes it very well. While it's on the main page of soccergaming, here's the link anyway.

Gamespot Clicky

Of course until you see a few reviews of the final product you cannot say for definite that it's a world beater or a dud, whether by graphics or gameplay. But from what I've seen and played it will certainly be a contender - whether you prefer FIFA's arcade-style or PES/WE's sim.

 

[The Warrior]

Posh_geordie I have already posted gamespot's preview
Club football will rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!It will be the best soccer game ever!!!WE7 will suck!!!!!!!

 

[LaBrujita]

Since they are starting from scratch (codemasters), doesn't mean that they will make a masterpiece right off-the-bat. They will, most likely, take years to rework things before it's on a great-gameplay level. ****, look at FIFA. It started decently, back in 93-94 or whatever, and they've increasingly got worse. I'm sure CF will be better than FIFA gameplay, but to reach the level of WE7, on their first attempt, would be something special (but doubtful).
Anyways... this is stupid to keep saying this, because you are being way too over-assuming in your suggestions about which game will be like what. Just wait for it before you try to dethrone WE7. Trust me.


edit:
Gamespot's review says nothing of the quality of the gameplay. It simply states that the controls are the same as WE7 - big fucking deal. I do hope that Club Footbal is almost as good, or as good, or better, than WE7. That will be great for the whole 'business' of virtual football; everyone will be pressed to work that much harder to be the best, from year to year.

 

[The Warrior]

I don't say this seriously LaBrujita
As I have told I am WE fan but I believe that CF will be better...
It's a big deal for me that gamespot told that CF's controls(gameplay) is as good as WE...

 

[Iggy]

Originally posted by LaBrujita
I will bet my life on your statement being wrong, in every sense of the word.
Don't get me going on the quality of EA Sports, especially FIFA. Gimmicks and graphics only go so far. Play the WE series, and you'll laugh at what you just said.

Well, my friend, you don't know all the features in new FIFA, so don't write funny things. OK, I still have a bad feeling about all this, but... we will see.
And, about that new football simulation, I have a feeling that it will be a good experiment.
And, yes, I played WE 6/PES 2, and yes, FIFA is better football simulation "on the pitch". PES 2 is better with other features like training and management options, or, let's say... "off the pitch features".

 

[Gerrard 17]

Originally posted by Iggy
FIFA is better football simulation "on the pitch".

!!!!!!!!!!

 

[The Warrior]

No I don't think that FIFA 2003 is better football simulation.It has an arcade style and PES2/WE6 is more simulation game.
Oh quys take another preview from totalvideogames.com to see what they say about Club football.Imagine that this preview is not new....

Club Football
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Codemasters look to overthrow Konami & EA with a football title that promises to be very different.

We first brought you details about the ambitious football title currently in development at Codemasters last year; the UK based publisher and developer plans to release 15 different versions of the game on the Playstation2 + Xbox, each based on a particular club!

The most important question is what clubs can we expect to see; well it appears that Codemasters have spared no expense in grabbing the licenses, this isn’t just a collection of conference league teams but pretty much every major club in Europe!

Teams



AC Milan Club Football / San Siro

Ajax Club Football / Amsterdam ArenA

Arsenal Club Football / Highbury

Aston Villa Club Football / Villa Park

FC Barcelona Club Football / Camp Nou

FC Bayern München Club Football / Olympic Stadium

Borussia Dortmund Club Football / Westfalenstadion

Chelsea Club Football / Stamford Bridge

Hamburger SV Club Football / AOL Arena

FC Internazionale Club Football / San Siro

Juventus Club Football / Stadio Delle Alpi

Leeds United Club Football / Elland Road

Liverpool FC Club Football / Anfield

Manchester United Club Football / Old Trafford

Rangers Club Football / Ibrox Park


Fortunately this isn’t just an aesthetic feature but pivotal to the actual title; everything in the game is tailored to the club in question, from the packaging to the menu system, making this a dream come true for football fanatics (as long as you support one of the clubs above)!

In a genre dominated by Pro Evolution and FIFA, any new football title has to offer something different or special if it hopes to gain any significant sales or share of the market. We’ve seen many come and try and ultimately fail; however by securing these licenses and giving fans the most authentic football experience yet, odemasters may just have stumbled upon the winning ingredient.

Unlike other football games, acquiring the rights to each individual club, gives the developers the chance to create the most authentic experience possible; not only do players faces resemble their real-life counterparts, but the players exact dimensions, playing styles and various other attributes have been painstakingly researched and recreated.

The stadiums will also be replicated with the same meticulous attention to detail; Codemasters claim that when you step out on to the turf it will be quite unlike any other football game; a bold claim, but when the crowd is singing the chants that you’d expect and even the announcers chime in, well you get the idea, this is one to get excited about…

Our sources at Codemasters today revealed some juicy information regarding the actual gameplay; players can expect three main game modes, although only two have been revealed to us:

Domestic Season

Players can choose from a full or half season as they guide the club to glory; unfortunately no specific information has been revealed, however we’re expecting this to have more depth then what previous football games have given before.

European Super League

The fabled league may still be a pipe dream, however pick up Club Football and you can join Europe’s best to find out once and for all who is the best team in Europe.


Realising the strengths of FIFA and Pro Evolution, the development team are eager to capture the balance between both games; we’ve been tantalisingly told that Club Football will offer the accessibility and fun of FIFA with a level of depth that will appeal to Pro Evolution fans. If Codemasters can achieve this balance, then Club Football could very well knock Pro Evo off the top spot!

We’ve also been assured that you’ll be able to create your own player through an extensive create character mode; without a shadow of a doubt, this is the nearest I’m going to get to walking out on the Theatre of Dreams, and should realise the dream of football fans up and down the country.


After the annual US and Japanese takes on the most popular sport in the country, it’s about time we had an English developed title, and who better then the talented chaps at Codemasters to give it to us.

The only way to succeed against the likes of FIFA and Pro Evolution is to offer the gamer something substantially different; what better way then having a game specialised to your favourite team?

As long as Codemasters nail the crucial gameplay, Club Football deserves to be up there with the best; we’ll have more information and impressions soon, but in the meantime make sure to check out the first screens and video footage from Old Trafford.

Buy Club Football from the TVG Store powered by Gameplay voted number 1 retailer 2002


Overall
If anyone can beat Konami it's got to be Codemasters; keep an eye out for this one... 9/10



Article By: Chris Leyton
Or take the link http://www.totalvideogames.com/?section=Game Info&gameid=2484&format=000006

 

[Iggy]

Look, guys... FIFA 2003 has been officially crowned like "the best football simulation on all consoles and PC", so, let's cut the crap.
And, about that new football simulation, they can promise me the dream of all gameplay, but i'll beleive in it when I see it.

 

[Zlatan#9]

Originally posted by Iggy
FIFA is better football simulation "on the pitch"

Originally posted by Iggy
Look, guys... FIFA 2003 has been officially crowned like "the best football simulation on all consoles and PC", so, let's cut the crap.
And, about that new football simulation, they can promise me the dream of all gameplay, but i'll beleive in it when I see it.

HAHAHAAHAH!! Oh man, oh man this is the funniest shiiat I've read in a while hhahahha!

 

[Gerrard 17]

Originally posted by Iggy
Look, guys... FIFA 2003 has been officially crowned like "the best football simulation on all consoles and PC", so, let's cut the crap.

dude...

stop talking now

officialy crowned by whom!?!?!?!

EA Sports maybe...

FIFA the best simulation of football!!! lol

 

[Iggy]

EA's FIFA Soccer 2003 has been officially crowned the king of all virtual soccer games. Due to its subject matter, the game has sold mainly in Europe and it is from there that most of the sales figures originate. According to European sales then, FIFA Soccer 2003 has outsold its competitors by almost two-to-one, reaching a total of 2.5 million copies sold.

In France the game has been at the top of the games sales chart for five weeks in a row, while in Germany it is at the top across all platforms.

EA claim that they have worked hard, together with the top soccer stars in order to make the game more enjoyable and challenging to play. Even if their figures are not completely accurate it must be said that FIFA Soccer 2003 is considered the most complete game in its genre and EA's competitors have a long way to go before any worthy challenger appears on the market.

Maybe what EA's EA European General Manager Gerhard Florin said is true, Europeans love FIFA Football 2003 because it is a game designed by football players for football fans.

 

[LaBrujita]

Originally posted by Iggy
EA's FIFA Soccer 2003 has been officially crowned the king of all virtual soccer games. Due to its subject matter, the game has sold mainly in Europe and it is from there that most of the sales figures originate. According to European sales then, FIFA Soccer 2003 has outsold its competitors by almost two-to-one, reaching a total of 2.5 million copies sold.

In France the game has been at the top of the games sales chart for five weeks in a row, while in Germany it is at the top across all platforms.

EA claim that they have worked hard, together with the top soccer stars in order to make the game more enjoyable and challenging to play. Even if their figures are not completely accurate it must be said that FIFA Soccer 2003 is considered the most complete game in its genre and EA's competitors have a long way to go before any worthy challenger appears on the market.

Maybe what EA's EA European General Manager Gerhard Florin said is true, Europeans love FIFA Football 2003 because it is a game designed by football players for football fans.

They sell the most because they are the biggest company, pay the most for advertisement, and it's the only thing to buy in the states. Besides, there are so many dumbshi[/i]ts like you, who are clueless to soccer, or just haven't put in the effort to play WE.
FIFA is so internationally famous because a) it was the first big series, allowing it to be implanted in everyone's minds for year, b)it produces its game in all these languages, where it is huge, which PES/WE does not do, and c) there's so many kids, say under 12, that could not have the patience or ability to play or appreciate WE, but anyone mature enough, or have a big enough love of the game, would take WE/PES in a heartbeat.
The actual game is ridiculously terrible if you logically compare the two.

As for the other on-drugs logic: same controls + aspirations of being the same (does not) = as good, or better.
Anyone can make a game of the same genre as a great one, try to emulate the gameplay, make the same controls (happens all the time), but, more often than not, the game bombs. There's a chance it will not, but....great games are great for a reason.

I'll leave you to review your illogical logic:

I don't say this seriously LaBrujita
As I have told I am WE fan but I believe that CF will be better...
It's a big deal for me that gamespot told that CF's controls(gameplay) is as good as WE...

So, you aren't serious, but you do believe it.
Gamespot says the controls are the same, so that means they are saying that the gameplay is the same.
Umm.....

 

[Iggy]

Listen kiddo, watch your language, then we could talk. And, soccer is football, football is a real name for a game where players are shooting the ball with their feets. Soccer is american bull*it. And, about your theory that I'm clueless about football... man, please, just shut your mouth.