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[Awax]

Originally posted by jw87
So you are saying that they aren't famous because they are old (in the football universe).

He's saying the famous that some are talking about are old retired sh!t.

 

[Gnidrologist]

I wonder how bander's created threads always get so much attention. I wish I had the similar talent attracting people to reply in my threads.

 

[NerazZurRo]

Originally posted by Gnidrologist
I wonder how bander's created threads always get so much attention. I wish I had the similar talent attracting people to reply in my threads.

You need to have an outstanding grasp of English like Bander has!

Anyways yeah the Asian Arab teams have always done very well in the AFC champs league... the latest example being Al Ain (UAE) winning it last year.

African Arab teams rule as well

 

[Awax]

Originally posted by NerazZurRo
African Arab teams rule as well

Indeed. We're better than them asians

 

[band2003_1]

thanks
and the year now team ksa and team koria final

 

[khseol]

Originally posted by Awax
Indeed. We're better than them asians

ahh yes..our arrogant middle eastern friends.....always BETTER without being better....so saudis and other middle eastern countries are better than asians?..especially in AFC Champions League right?....look at these hard facts and numbers..morons
international and club........

i agree with you that saudi teams are good..they are much better than most chinese teams and and definitely better than singapore...vietnam..and other countries....but your claim of saudi teams being better than japan and korea...i dont think you are watching the same tv as me...current results from this years competitions in asia....(only countries in question)

National Teams

ASIA CUP 2004(asia's euro 2004)
Group A(china won)
China 3games 7pts
Bahrain 3games 5pts
Indonesia 3games 3pts
Qatar 3games 1pts

Group B(Korea won group)
Korea Republic 3games 7pts
Jordan 3games 5pts
Kuwait 3games 3pts
UAE 3games 1pts

Group C(uzbek's won)
Uzbekistan 3games 9pts
Iraq 3games 6pts
Turkmenistan 3games 1pts
Saudi Arabia* 3games 1pts (last place)

Group D(japan won)
Japan 3games 7pts
Iran 3games 5pts
Oman 3games 4pts
Thailand 3games 0pts

2004 ATHENS OLYMPICS
Japan=Qualified for knockout stage
Korea=Qualified for knockout stage
Saudi Arabia=Did not qualify for olympics at all
China=Did not qualify for olympics at all

2002 WORLDCUP
Korea=4th place
Japan=reached knockout phase
Saudi Arabia=finished last place with 0 points(thats NO points of any kind at all)
China=did even worse and was mutilated by all competitors finished with 0 points

AFC YOUTH COMPETITIONS IE U17 U20 etc
(why bother listing..korea wins all those..www.footballasia.com if u want numbers)

FIFA WORLD RANKING - ASIA October 25th 2004
Rank Team Pts
1 Japan 699
2 Iran 698
3 Korea 681
4 Saudi Arabia 662(once again behind countries you claim to be better than)
5 Jordan


Club Teams

2004 AFC CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

Currently 4 Teams in Semifinals

Chonbuk Motors (korea)
Al Ittihad (saudi arabia)
Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma (korea)
Pakhtakor (uzbek)

and now for the big one..that will not only show HISTORY but hard numbers you cannot argue.....

ASIAN CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS 1967-2002

Year
Champion
Runner Up

1967
Hapoel Tel Aviv (ISR)
Selangor (MAS)

1968
Maccabi Tel Aviv (ISR)
Yangzee (KOR)

1969
COMPETITION NOT HELD

1970
Taj Club (IRN)
Hapoel Tel Aviv (ISR)

1971
Maccabi Tel Aviv (ISR)
Police Club (IRQ)

1972-84
COMPETITION NOT HELD

1985
Daewoo Royals (KOR)
Al Ahli (KSA)

1986
Furukawa (JPN)
Al Hilal (KSA)

1987
Yomiuri (JPN)
Al Hilal (KSA)

1988
Al Saad (QAT)
Al Rasheed (IRQ)

1989
Liaoning (CHN)
Nissan (JPN)

1990
Esteghlal (IRN)
Liaoning (CHN)

1991
Al Hilal (KSA)
Esteghlal (IRN)

1992
Pas (IRN)
Al Shabab (KSA)

1993
Thai Farmers Bank (THA)
Oman Club (OMN)

1994
Thai Farmers Bank (THA)
Al Arabi (QAT)

1995
Ilhwa Chunma (KOR)
Al Nassr (KSA)

1996/97
Pohang Steelers (KOR)
Ilhwa Chunma (KOR)

1997/98
Pohang Steelers (KOR)
Dalian Wanda (CHN)

1998/99
Jubilo Iwata (JPN)
Esteghlal (IRN)

1999/00
Al Hilal (KSA)
Jubilo Iwata (JPN)

2000/01
Suwon Bluewings (KOR)
Jubilo Iwata (JPN)

2001/02
Suwon Bluewings (KOR)
Anyang Cheetahs (KOR)

Saudi Arabia has won 2 Championships(not bad)
Korea has won 6 Championships
Japan has won 3 Championships
China has won 1 Championship
Singapore(0)

Asian Players to ever Win a European Competition UEFA CUP/CL
First=Cha Bum Keun UEFA Cup winner 1979, 1988
Second=Shinji Ono UEFA CUP winner 2002


so as you can see..rather than bicker..argue...or give a false opinion......like youve done for japan and china and korea....i have shown you hard numbers and facts that pertain to our argument here......your statement about history or quality of football played by the sides in club or country is not supported by these facts and numbers...this arrogance some of you middle eastern people have is silly...the numbers dont support it at all....look above if you disagree.....
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k.h.seol aka seolvaldo..ph3ar it

 

[band2003_1]

thanks to all halp me

 

[NerazZurRo]

LMAO!
khseol mate chill out!
Awax meant that the African Arab teams are better than the Asian Arab teams... can't u see that he quoted me??

 

[DenverBroncos]

Originally posted by khseol
ahh yes..our arrogant middle eastern friends.....always BETTER without being better....so saudis and other middle eastern countries are better than asians?..especially in AFC Champions League right?....look at these hard facts and numbers..morons
international and club........

i agree with you that saudi teams are good..they are much better than most chinese teams and and definitely better than singapore...vietnam..and other countries....but your claim of saudi teams being better than japan and korea...i dont think you are watching the same tv as me...current results from this years competitions in asia....(only countries in question)

National Teams

ASIA CUP 2004(asia's euro 2004)
Group A(china won)
China 3games 7pts
Bahrain 3games 5pts
Indonesia 3games 3pts
Qatar 3games 1pts

Group B(Korea won group)
Korea Republic 3games 7pts
Jordan 3games 5pts
Kuwait 3games 3pts
UAE 3games 1pts

Group C(uzbek's won)
Uzbekistan 3games 9pts
Iraq 3games 6pts
Turkmenistan 3games 1pts
Saudi Arabia* 3games 1pts (last place)

Group D(japan won)
Japan 3games 7pts
Iran 3games 5pts
Oman 3games 4pts
Thailand 3games 0pts

2004 ATHENS OLYMPICS
Japan=Qualified for knockout stage
Korea=Qualified for knockout stage
Saudi Arabia=Did not qualify for olympics at all
China=Did not qualify for olympics at all

2002 WORLDCUP
Korea=4th place
Japan=reached knockout phase
Saudi Arabia=finished last place with 0 points(thats NO points of any kind at all)
China=did even worse and was mutilated by all competitors finished with 0 points

AFC YOUTH COMPETITIONS IE U17 U20 etc
(why bother listing..korea wins all those..www.footballasia.com if u want numbers)

FIFA WORLD RANKING - ASIA October 25th 2004
Rank Team Pts
1 Japan 699
2 Iran 698
3 Korea 681
4 Saudi Arabia 662(once again behind countries you claim to be better than)
5 Jordan


Club Teams

2004 AFC CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

Currently 4 Teams in Semifinals

Chonbuk Motors (korea)
Al Ittihad (saudi arabia)
Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma (korea)
Pakhtakor (uzbek)

and now for the big one..that will not only show HISTORY but hard numbers you cannot argue.....

ASIAN CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS 1967-2002

Year
Champion
Runner Up

1967
Hapoel Tel Aviv (ISR)
Selangor (MAS)

1968
Maccabi Tel Aviv (ISR)
Yangzee (KOR)

1969
COMPETITION NOT HELD

1970
Taj Club (IRN)
Hapoel Tel Aviv (ISR)

1971
Maccabi Tel Aviv (ISR)
Police Club (IRQ)

1972-84
COMPETITION NOT HELD

1985
Daewoo Royals (KOR)
Al Ahli (KSA)

1986
Furukawa (JPN)
Al Hilal (KSA)

1987
Yomiuri (JPN)
Al Hilal (KSA)

1988
Al Saad (QAT)
Al Rasheed (IRQ)

1989
Liaoning (CHN)
Nissan (JPN)

1990
Esteghlal (IRN)
Liaoning (CHN)

1991
Al Hilal (KSA)
Esteghlal (IRN)

1992
Pas (IRN)
Al Shabab (KSA)

1993
Thai Farmers Bank (THA)
Oman Club (OMN)

1994
Thai Farmers Bank (THA)
Al Arabi (QAT)

1995
Ilhwa Chunma (KOR)
Al Nassr (KSA)

1996/97
Pohang Steelers (KOR)
Ilhwa Chunma (KOR)

1997/98
Pohang Steelers (KOR)
Dalian Wanda (CHN)

1998/99
Jubilo Iwata (JPN)
Esteghlal (IRN)

1999/00
Al Hilal (KSA)
Jubilo Iwata (JPN)

2000/01
Suwon Bluewings (KOR)
Jubilo Iwata (JPN)

2001/02
Suwon Bluewings (KOR)
Anyang Cheetahs (KOR)

Saudi Arabia has won 2 Championships(not bad)
Korea has won 6 Championships
Japan has won 3 Championships
China has won 1 Championship
Singapore(0)

Asian Players to ever Win a European Competition UEFA CUP/CL
First=Cha Bum Keun UEFA Cup winner 1979, 1988
Second=Shinji Ono UEFA CUP winner 2002


so as you can see..rather than bicker..argue...or give a false opinion......like youve done for japan and china and korea....i have shown you hard numbers and facts that pertain to our argument here......your statement about history or quality of football played by the sides in club or country is not supported by these facts and numbers...this arrogance some of you middle eastern people have is silly...the numbers dont support it at all....look above if you disagree.....
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k.h.seol aka seolvaldo..ph3ar it

I did not bother to read this. Too damn long. Can you summarize?