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England could lose Champions League spot

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$teauA

Superstar
Hendrik said:
It's a compromise between the interests of the G14 and Uefa. If they didn't change the system of the CL in the 90s we would have a European Superleague by now without Uefa being part of it.



It would make things more boring. From the 6 Eastern European teams 5 of them are the whooping boys of their group. CSKA were the only side that could beat a team from the West.


What if they don't come to a conclusion? It would only be a waste of time.
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I don't care much about the name I was just mentioning somthing obvious.


I disagree with your opinion. Obviously the teams from the East are getting wooped these days and you know why? Because they the balance of money is so lopsided when it comes to European football that it's not even funny. There is plenty of talent in Eastern Europe but people just don't want to invest when everything is already there in the West. Limiting each country to 3 teams would be a step in the right direction and your opinion is basically just the opinion of a Western European who doesn't give a crap about Eastern Europe.


How would they not come to a conclusion :|? Obviously if they got together and discussed it (as they do in the NFL, NBA, MLB - and it works almost 100% of the time they get the right call) they would HAVE to come to a conclusion. I don't understand what you meant by that statement.
 
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dipset

Reserve Team
I HOPE PLATINI LOSES, the CL is good as it is , i mean didnt FC porto and Monaco were in the final couple yrs back, and Man u finish last in their group last yr , so upsets like these make it fun.
 
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Hendrik

Team Captain
$teauA said:
and your opinion is basically just the opinion of a Western European who doesn't give a crap about Eastern Europe.
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True. And you sound like an Eastern European that doesn't accept that unfortunately most of those third world countries are just a mess right now. As long as their economic shape doesn't improve there's little hope that Eastern European teams can compete with the others mid or long term.

How would they not come to a conclusion :|? Obviously if they got together and discussed it (as they do in the NFL, NBA, MLB - and it works almost 100% of the time they get the right call) they would HAVE to come to a conclusion. I don't understand what you meant by that statement.
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Linesman A says the ball crossed the line. Linesman B says he had a good vision and the ball was cleared before the line. What now?

My biggest concern is that it could ruin the flow of the game when the match has to be stopped each time there are tough calls to be made. Dubious calls belong to football.

as they do in the NFL, NBA, MLB - and it works almost 100% of the time they get the right call
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Ah freaking hell. NBA refs are horrible and biased. Some players receive superstar treatment (like the posterboys LeBron and Wade) or some teams are generally being treated better like the Lakers a few years ago.
 
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Joe Star

Starting XI
Hendrik said:
Well the EPL is the only league represented by four teams at the moment. That could be the intention behind it.
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From the same article
England, Spain and Italy all have four clubs in the Champions League under the current rules.
Which makes that article title total rubbish.
 
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$teauA

Superstar
Hendrik said:
True. And you sound like an Eastern European that doesn't accept that unfortunately most of those third world countries are just a mess right now. As long as their economic shape doesn't improve there's little hope that Eastern European teams can compete with the others mid or long term.
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What is there to accept? I'm not stupid, I know that Eastern European countries don't have the economic power to match-up with the West that wasn't my point. I'm saying that this move would allow for faster growth in football and economics of football in those nations if they were allowed more spots in the CL.


Linesman A says the ball crossed the line. Linesman B says he had a good vision and the ball was cleared before the line. What now?
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Turst me they're not gonna sit there and argue like sissy girls over it, one is going to have a better angle than the other one and that will be that. As a reffereing team the other guy will just have to trust and accept his partners decision.


My biggest concern is that it could ruin the flow of the game when the match has to be stopped each time there are tough calls to be made. Dubious calls belong to football.
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Ever seen these?



refs already use them in the CL and EPL to discuss important calls. Quick chat and we're set.


Ah freaking hell. NBA refs are horrible and biased. Some players receive superstar treatment (like the posterboys LeBron and Wade) or some teams are generally being treated better like the Lakers a few years ago.
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They might be but I'm not talking about that. I'm referring to calls when one ref says it was out of bounds while another says the player was inbounds. They get together, talk for a little bit and come to a conclusion which like I said is almost always correct. Bias has nothing to do with that. You probably don't follow the NFL and MLB which is why you didn't comment on them as well. Both NFL and MLB refs do a great job when two of them call different things. Trust me, 4 linesmen would be a good move.
 
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Fallen

Youth Team
from the point of view of a lowered ranked country (Romania) i must agree to this.
Having 4 teams from one country ... doesn't make the CL a "champions" league ...
I believe that only the champions and runners-up from strongest 3-5 championships should play in CL. Also i am in favor of reducing the nr of teams in the groups stage to 16, like it was before ... Also, no team (from any championship) should be automatically qualified into the groups stage. Not fair ...
 
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PSVFOREVER

Fan Favourite
I agree with Platini, 4 teams is way too many. Just some average side in Italy, Spain or England has the same chance to qualify for the CL as a champion in a smaller league. Look at Osasuna this year, or Everton last year. I can name quite a lot of teams from smaller nations that belong in the CL rather than those teams. Good thing they didnt qualify.
 
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Num Lock

Reserve Team
i agree, not that much on the referees part, but the on the CL, i totally agree.

and whoever said anything about ASM being an underdog that year they made it to the finals lol, they trashed every team they faced, and they were two injuries away from being the champs.
 
RobbieD_PL

RobbieD_PL

Unreliable deceiver
Staff member
Moderator
4 Linesmen are too much: you might as well have a linesman on each section of the goal-lines to determine a corner or a goal kick :fool:

But yeh I agree with the 3-teams limit for the UCL, It'd be a shame that we'd miss out on some teams from the EPL, La Liga or Serie A, but expanding the scope of competitive football to all League winners of European foot ball would be better in the long run.

Oh and Hendrik, of course our Eastern European economies (and hence, among other things, football development) aren't in the best shape atm, but we have to start off from some point, don't we? (C)
 
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Hepoas

Account closed
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Its easy to big nations like Spain or England to say its crap to change something who is "so sucsessfull".. but nation like Romanian, or Norway don't get any fun with todays rules..

Its not CHAMPIONS League.. but a "Top Team League" ... Every 1st place should go through the qual and into the group stage..

Its easy for big teams like Chelsea or Man Utd to be disagree with me, but for me who are Vålerenga fan, its not funny at all... We lost against Mlada Boleslav in qual.. and Mlada boleslav don't won the Czech League!! And we was the Holders of Tippeligaen.
Its not fair..

:kader: :kader: :kader:

But im proud of Norway.. we send just the Champion out to CL.. Not the 2. or 3.
So.. HAH to England, Spain or Italy who sends out all "the good teams".. Just the champion its good enough for CL.

Its not make sence that 2. place in England, Spain, Germany and Italy get through to the Champions League, then the Norwegian Champions have to play qual in 2. round..
 
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